New coaches added this year - any impact?

[Desert Bills Fan]

 

The Bills added 5 new coaches:

Chris Tabor (special teams coordinator)

Ryan Nielsen (senior defensive assistant)

Mike Pellegrino (nickels coach)

Jason Rebrovich (assistant defensive line)

Turner West (assistant special teams)

 

Will Greenberg head strength and conditioning coach

Barry Rubin senior strength and conditioning assistant

 

At this point in the season, I don’t think there is any improvement on special teams, defense or S&C.
Not heard any kudos from McDermott or Babbich that there was any big contributions.

 

too bad, thought we might see some improvements from new blood.

[Ray Finkel]

The new strength and conditioning guy has done a hell of a job.

[EmotionallyUnstable]

Fair question:

 

I think a lot of people were most interested in the addition of Nielsen, specifically since he has a history of playing a more agressive style on D (man and blitz). 
 

I wonder if their plan has been hampered by the injuries and if we’ll see any change in scheme with the return of some guys like Hairston.

Edited 18 hours ago by EmotionallyUnstable

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

22 minutes ago, Ray Finkel said:

The new strength and conditioning guy has done a hell of a job.

[BuffaloBillyG]

1 hour ago, Desert Bills Fan said:

 

The Bills added 5 new coaches:

Chris Tabor (special teams coordinator)

Ryan Nielsen (senior defensive assistant)

Mike Pellegrino (nickels coach)

Jason Rebrovich (assistant defensive line)

Turner West (assistant special teams)

 

Will Greenberg head strength and conditioning coach

Barry Rubin senior strength and conditioning assistant

 

At this point in the season, I don’t think there is any improvement on special teams, defense or S&C.
Not heard any kudos from McDermott or Babbich that there was any big contributions.

 

too bad, thought we might see some improvements from new blood.

I think STs has been in the up this year despite  the revolving Punter/holder situation. But that may have something to do with Matt Prater over Bass and less to do with Tabor 

[billsherd]

Bringing in new coaches might be the issue.  Players look lost out there.  

[Pete]

7 hours ago, billsherd said:

Bringing in new coaches might be the issue.  Players look lost out there.  

That is coaching.  Lost, often Offside, covering grass, not covering gaps, not adapting, poor schemes, etc- that is all coaching!

[Sweats]

ST's has looked improved this year, unfortunately the rest of the team has regressed

[BillsFooteball]

I believe bills are 2nd in NFL in pressure rate which can be contributed to addition of Nielsen and Rebrovich. Special teams is improved though that’s not a hard bar to leap after Smiley 

[frostbitmic]

Seems as if penalties against us have gone up

Still can't stop the run

Still can't get off the field on 3rd and long

Tackling is abysmal

Our oft injured Defense seems to be bruised and bloodied

 

Seems like the same ole same ole to me.

[Blackbeard]

12 hours ago, Ray Finkel said:

The new strength and conditioning guy has done a hell of a job.

Please explain.   I'm guessing you mean sarcasm.  But please explain how they've done a bad job.  And if you're serious, then just disregard the below:

 

I remind you, the Bills have one of the best, top notch training facilities in the league.   

 

Also, that EVERY SINGLE TEAM deals with boatloads of injuries.  To point the finger at trainers is ridiculous in my opinion.  Injuries are part of the game no matter who your conditioning coach is.

Edited 6 hours ago by Blackbeard

[SCBills]

I actually think they’re doing a good job with the DL, especially given the injuries they’ve had to deal with. 
 

The issue is that the Back 7 has provided next to zero resistance to allow the DL to get home. 

[Paup 1995MVP]

As a fan you can get a reset when we have a bye.  And really focus on the rest of the NFL. The teams, the players, the schemes.  
 

And the biggest takeaways is

 

1)how lacking we are with speed at WR.  Keon would probably not be playing boundary WR on almost any other team.  He has no burst or twitch to separate.  But we still need to take more shots to the intermediate and deep parts of the field with everyone else.  Have to try and use the entire field.  Get Kincaid 12-15 targets if you have to.  He is are only matchup problem for opposing defenses.  He needs to be out Jamar Chase or Jackson Smith Ingigba.  
 

And on defense are back 7 are the least athletic, least physical of any team I watched in week 7.  Even Benford has no explosive twitch to him.  Our best player right now is Shaq Thompson.  And he is an 11 year vet who would be a solid back up on most teams, but would not start.  
 

This is an epic fail by Beane and McDermott to have so little speed aggressiveness and athleticism on the defense.  (And little talent at WR)

 

Everyone is playing pressure D all over the field.  Last night all 4 QB’s were under attack.  We need to really change things up.  Hopefully w Hairston Hoecht and Ogunjobi we can do that more.  But the league has really evolved on defense over the past few years.  And we are left behind right now. 
 

Our roster needs a major makeover at WR, LB and secondary.  Really troubling.  

[RyanC883]

as long as McD is here, adding or subtracting coaches won't really matter.  The D is still the soft shell nonsence.  

[Ray Finkel]

1 hour ago, Blackbeard said:

Please explain.   I'm guessing you mean sarcasm.  But please explain how they've done a bad job.  And if you're serious, then just disregard the below:

 

I remind you, the Bills have one of the best, top notch training facilities in the league.   

 

Also, that EVERY SINGLE TEAM deals with boatloads of injuries.  To point the finger at trainers is ridiculous in my opinion.  Injuries are part of the game no matter who your conditioning coach is.

Why did Eric Ciano get fired?  Too many injuries according to people in the Bills organization.  I agree that injuries are part of the game and yes I mean sarcasm.  I don’t even know who the strength and conditioning coach is.  

[Albany,n.y.]

13 hours ago, Ray Finkel said:

The new strength and conditioning guy has done a hell of a job.

If Pete Carroll can be a head coach at 74, Rusty Jones needs to come out of retirement at 72 & come back to Buffalo.  

[transient]

12 hours ago, billsherd said:

Bringing in new the wrong coaches might be the issue.  Players look lost out there.  

FIFY. Patriots don't look lost, and they have a brand new staff in it's entirety. 🤷‍♂️

[The Jokeman]

20 minutes ago, Ray Finkel said:

Why did Eric Ciano get fired?  Too many injuries according to people in the Bills organization.  I agree that injuries are part of the game and yes I mean sarcasm.  I don’t even know who the strength and conditioning coach is.  

From https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2025/2/15/24365585/buffalo-bills-part-ways-with-former-coach-of-the-year-recipient-eric-ciano

 

But it seems that the problem may have stemmed from the inability to get players back to playing form, and/or the inability to develop the strength of young players.

Edited 4 hours ago by The Jokeman

[Yobogoya!]

54 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

as long as McD is here, adding or subtracting coaches won't really matter.  The D is still the soft shell nonsence.  

 

Yeah I often wonder what McD even brings to the table from an x's and o's standpoint? Like does he even help us scheme to an opponent's weakness? 

 

With Frazier you could notice certain wrinkles here and there, even if the overall scheme was the same. Past few seasons I don't even notice that- we just kinda line up and do our thing and hope the offense doesn't execute efficiently 🤷‍♂️

[Ray Finkel]

37 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

From https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2025/2/15/24365585/buffalo-bills-part-ways-with-former-coach-of-the-year-recipient-eric-ciano

 

But it seems that the problem may have stemmed from the inability to get players back to playing form, and/or the inability to develop the strength of young players.

I get it but sometimes out of the coach’s control.  Ex. Matt Milano gets hurt this year and comes back for a half and misses more games for the same injury.