The 2025 Current State of the Buffalo Bills is All on General Manager Brandon Beane

[Big Blitz]

3 hours ago, KOKBILLS said:

Agreed...

2018 - 6th Rd - Ray-Ray McCloud, 7th Rd - Austin Proehl
2019 - Nothing
2020 - 4th Rd - Gabe Davis, 6th Isaiah Hodgins
2021 - 6th Rd - Marquez Stevenson
2022 - 5th Rd - Khalil Shakir
2023 - 5th Rd - Justin Shorter
2024 - 2nd Rd - Keon Coleman
2025 - 7th Rd - Kaden Prather

 

8 Drafts in Josh Allen's career... 9 WR's Drafted... He did trade the one 1st Rd pick for Diggs, but we only get 4 years out of that... Sure...It's 4 good years, but Minnesota's going to get a LOT more from Jefferson... One 2nd Rd pick in Coleman... No 3rd Rd picks... One 4th, two 5th's including Shakir, three 6th's, and two 7th's...

You're welcome Josh... 

 

 

My goodness.  It’s jolting seeing that in writing.  

[LabattBlue]

3 hours ago, KOKBILLS said:

Agreed...

2018 - 6th Rd - Ray-Ray McCloud, 7th Rd - Austin Proehl
2019 - Nothing
2020 - 4th Rd - Gabe Davis, 6th Isaiah Hodgins
2021 - 6th Rd - Marquez Stevenson
2022 - 5th Rd - Khalil Shakir
2023 - 5th Rd - Justin Shorter
2024 - 2nd Rd - Keon Coleman
2025 - 7th Rd - Kaden Prather

 

8 Drafts in Josh Allen's career... 9 WR's Drafted... He did trade the one 1st Rd pick for Diggs, but we only get 4 years out of that... Sure...It's 4 good years, but Minnesota's going to get a LOT more from Jefferson... One 2nd Rd pick in Coleman... No 3rd Rd picks... One 4th, two 5th's including Shakir, three 6th's, and two 7th's...

You're welcome Josh... 

 

Disgusting. 😡

[zow2]

Too late this year but the Bills need an entire philosophical change on defense. Schemes and everything. They get pushed around so easily up front and are a read and react D on the back end. That’s not winning football for playoff games.

[jkeerie]

1 minute ago, zow2 said:

Too late this year but the Bills need an entire philosophical change on defense. Schemes and everything. They get pushed around so easily up front and are a read and react D on the back end. That’s not winning football for playoff games.

Read and react is especially bad when half your secondary is illiterate.

[LabattBlue]

8 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

Disgusting. 😡

Even worse…a 2nd, two 3rds and a 4th on RB’s. 🤔

[Gunsgoodtime]

18 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

My goodness.  It’s jolting seeing that in writing.  

Its even worse seeing it on the field

Edited 22 hours ago by Gunsgoodtime

[Walking Tall]

The amount of draft capital and resources spent on this terrible defense irks me.

 

Outstanding QB.

 

Great o-line.

 

Good TE’s.

 

Very good RB’s.

 

Terrible at WR and terrible across the board on defense.

[Governor]

16 minutes ago, zow2 said:

Too late this year but the Bills need an entire philosophical change on defense. Schemes and everything. They get pushed around so easily up front and are a read and react D on the back end. That’s not winning football for playoff games.

We needed that 6 years ago. He lied, distracted, blamed and fired coordinators, hired specialists, all to save his beloved scheme. He’s not giving it up. You have to fire him.

Edited 22 hours ago by Governor

[Bockeye]

25 minutes ago, zow2 said:

Too late this year but the Bills need an entire philosophical change on defense. Schemes and everything. They get pushed around so easily up front and are a read and react D on the back end. That’s not winning football for playoff games.

Agreed, but our huge collection of Meh players are not helping.  As per above posts, our drafts have been mostly poor since Allen. 

 

It’s not like we have the Ravens roster and are sucking.  

 

Agreed though - need a new coach (and GM). 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

Watching Pickens balling out and making big boy downfield one handed grabs makes me sick. Seeing him go to the Cowboys for a 3rd rounder and conditional 6th hurts me deep in my soul. I would’ve gave that Keon Coleman pick in a heartbeat for Pickens. There was WR talent to be had in the offseason and he flubbed it per usual. 

[jahnyc]

Sanders and Max need to be quality starters given the draft capital used to draft them.  I have a feeling that Sanders will turn out to be average and with Max I have no idea.  Some CB draft picks have stepped in immediately but Max does not seem to be that guy (and I know he got injured and missed most of training camp).  Wondering if the will be more McKelvin than Winfield.  At this point, I will be surprised if Jackson becomes a quality DE.

 

I know that this post is unfair since we are talking about first year players, two of whom have experienced significant injuries, but just an overall feeling having watched numerous cycles of Bills' draft picks and their performances over the years.

[Paup 1995MVP]

Where the team stands now at 4-2 and having played pretty mediocre football on the whole for most of the season after almost making the Super Bowl last season is an organizational failure. 
 

The team has regressed since the end of last season.  And that should not have happened.  We obviously needed some additions at WR, and did nothing other than draft a kid in the 7th round as an afterthought.  That is stupid on Beane’s part.  We needed help on defense and drafted 6 guys.  Unfortunately 3 are injured, one has not been given a chance, 1 looks awful and 1 has been a beast.  We signed 3 D lineman in free agency, and 1 has looked good, and 2 have been suspended (hopefully they will give the team some juice starting this coming week)

 

My biggest problem besides the lack of talent at WR is that we brought in trash in the secondary besides our rookies.  Tre and Dane are not NFL players any longer.  And Rapp is a back up period as is Bishop.  Either the team has no clue on what starting NFL talent looks like, or they are blindly loyal to guys who were good at one time.  But can’t run any longer.  Give Hancock a chance.  And play Poyer until you can find someone in a trade.  The back end is killing us. 
 

Also we continue to go with small LB’s who can’t defend the pass and get run over against the run.  That will not when you a Super Bowl.  
 

The organization really needs to be doing a lot of self evaluating.  We will see come next Sunday.  And the Panthers are a solid team.  We had best be ready.  

[KOKBILLS]

54 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Watching Pickens balling out and making big boy downfield one handed grabs makes me sick. Seeing him go to the Cowboys for a 3rd rounder and conditional 6th hurts me deep in my soul. I would’ve gave that Keon Coleman pick in a heartbeat for Pickens. There was WR talent to be had in the offseason and he flubbed it per usual. 

Purely as a football player, I saw Pickens as a top half of the 1st Rd talent. You can go back and read what I had to say about him leading up to that Draft. He's the guy I wanted. They took Elam... In my defense I don't have access to all the off-the-field stuff the NFL teams have. 

All that being said the Bills as they are run now will never consider Pickens IMHO... George is...well...a little nuts... Now... He has teammates, both in Pittsburgh and now in Dallas that love the guy. They really do... He's also super unpredictable, super immature if things are going bad and he's not getting the ball, late to meetings, late to a game once... But then in interviews teammates have said he's not a bad guy as far as general attitude... Some say he's misunderstood, generally a happy guy... Then some Steelers players came out anonymously after the trade and said some pretty negative things about him in general... So far in Dallas, outside of the unsportsmanlike penalties early, it seems to be OK... 

But again... No way McBeane touch Pickens... Not a chance... 

[Riverboat Ritchie]

If Bills don’t make a trade and push the chips in this year, we are done. Younger QBs are coming and Pats, Colts and Chiefs all better than we are at this point in season.  

[Bockeye]

4 minutes ago, Riverboat Ritchie said:

If Bills don’t make a trade and push the chips in this year, we are done. Younger QBs are coming and Pats, Colts and Chiefs all better than we are at this point in season.  

I wouldn’t go that far.  Allen is still somewhat young.  We just need to surround him with talent on O and D and get better coaching.  Will that happen - probably not.  It’s a travesty we haven’t even made it to the SB with Allen.  Another wasted QB talent with Buffalo with nothing to show.  

 

Im not a nay-sayer, but we’re not getting there with current regime.  Everyone has rallied against the folks constantly being pessimists, but you know what - they are right.  

[In Summary]

Beane didn't need to get us a #1, he just needed a Don Beebe, John Brown, etc. He won't admit he was wrong, yet if it comes down to preserving his job, he will overpay for a receiver. 

[BobbyC81]

On 10/14/2025 at 7:49 AM, Gregg said:

 

Why does McDermott get a pass? A new GM will probably want to bring in his own HC rather than be forced to work with McDermott especially if the new GM's philosophy on building a football team doesn't match up well with Sean's.

As has been pointed out numerous times, McD and Beane are at the same level, both reporting directly to Pegula.  Odds are that this wouldn’t change after any future changes at those positions.

[Gregg]

2 hours ago, BobbyC81 said:

As has been pointed out numerous times, McD and Beane are at the same level, both reporting directly to Pegula.  Odds are that this wouldn’t change after any future changes at those positions.

 

Then good luck getting a new GM to come here especially one with experience and who has had success in this league. They aren't attached to McDermott, and any new potential GM is going to want to have the power to bring in their own HC if they don't see eye-to-eye with Sean on running the team. They probably wouldn't take the job if they didn't have that option.

[FireChans]

14 hours ago, KOKBILLS said:

Agreed...

2018 - 6th Rd - Ray-Ray McCloud, 7th Rd - Austin Proehl
2019 - Nothing
2020 - 4th Rd - Gabe Davis, 6th Isaiah Hodgins
2021 - 6th Rd - Marquez Stevenson
2022 - 5th Rd - Khalil Shakir
2023 - 5th Rd - Justin Shorter
2024 - 2nd Rd - Keon Coleman
2025 - 7th Rd - Kaden Prather

 

8 Drafts in Josh Allen's career... 9 WR's Drafted... He did trade the one 1st Rd pick for Diggs, but we only get 4 years out of that... Sure...It's 4 good years, but Minnesota's going to get a LOT more from Jefferson... One 2nd Rd pick in Coleman... No 3rd Rd picks... One 4th, two 5th's including Shakir, three 6th's, and two 7th's...

You're welcome Josh... 

 

 

11 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

My goodness.  It’s jolting seeing that in writing.  

A cascading, compounding problem that was like watching a car crash in slow motion.

 

Why did we feel obligated to give Diggs whatever he wanted in 2022 and thus eat an entire contract in 2024 when the relationship became untenable?

 

Because we didn’t have enough of a talent pipeline at WR. 
 

There was no plan for Diggs’ eventual decline. There was no plan to replace Gabe Davis when he priced himself out of Buffalo. The plan to replace Cole Beasley was to promote JAG gadget guy Isaiah McKenzie who predictably was so bad that we had to call a retired Cole Beasley to come back. 
 

We relied on FA bandaids at a position that quickly became the second highest in the NFL. An unsound strategy when the delta between what a rookie deal WR and a FA WR makes has never been higher, and the stars at the position basically never hit FA.

 

It’s drought level QB mismanagement bad. And it’s even worse because we have the Super Bowl caliber QB, so the opportunity cost is ENORMOUS. It has cost us the chance to play in multiple Superbowls thus far imo and may cost us ever getting to the dance at all.

 

Does anyone think we are outscoring the Chiefs in January, even in Buffalo? Does Josh Allen think he can?

[All_Pro_Bills]

11 hours ago, zow2 said:

Too late this year but the Bills need an entire philosophical change on defense. Schemes and everything. They get pushed around so easily up front and are a read and react D on the back end. That’s not winning football for playoff games.

100% agree. I had an expectation going into Sunday night I wasn't going to see a Falcons team dominate the 49ers on both sides of the ball. And I wasn't disappointed. Reality is a slightly above average NFL team dominated the Bills last Monday night. The SB favorite? They sure don't look the part to this point. 

 

Getting to the point, the Bills defensive scheme is too passive. It's been season after season. They sit back and wait for a mistake. These don't usually come with the better teams. Last night and around the league defenses are attacking. Putting pressure on the offense. The Bills adjust  about a quarter to a half too late when they finally figure out the passive sit back scheme doesn't work in the 2020's NFL. Just dump the old scheme. 

 

Add in Brady's offense has drained all the aggressiveness out of the Bills offense and transformed it to a boring and predictable run based offense. This with a league MVP at QB. That makes zero sense. 

 

And then there's the personnel decisions of Beane that has them up against the cap with major holes at WR and on defense. 

 

 

Edited 11 hours ago by All_Pro_Bills