Goin Breakdown Posted Thursday at 06:44 PM Posted Thursday at 06:44 PM (edited) Nah we just need to come up with better run schemes. We drafted a dude because he's big and a great blocker in Coleman. We drafted a TE so we could run 13 which benifits the run (yes and passing to a degree) in mind when we drafted Kincaid. This team is making Josh a game manager in the name of "complimentary" football. They don't just want to be ABLE to run the ball, they WANT to run the ball as their identity. Bleed the clock so the defense can gasp for air a bit longer before they go back out there and bend for 65 yards and 7 mins. We're not getting a WR and if we do it'll be "who???" Edited Thursday at 06:45 PM by Goin Breakdown 1 Quote
RyanC883 Posted Thursday at 06:51 PM Posted Thursday at 06:51 PM any trade idea that nets a legit WR1 can't be discounted at this time. A 2nd and one of our JAG receivers for Pickens would be amazing. Not sure if Dallas would go for it, they seem to never be in "blow it up" mode even when they should be. Quote
MikePJ76 Posted Thursday at 06:58 PM Posted Thursday at 06:58 PM There have been talks to extend pickens and they might get lamb back this week. There defense is worse than buffalo's. they got him for a 3 and a 5. If beane gives up a 3 and a 5 for a mentally unstable dude he should be fired on the spot. You would have to give dallas like a 2 to even get their attention. He is not going anywhere. 1 Quote
Billsflyer12 Posted Thursday at 07:02 PM Posted Thursday at 07:02 PM There is almost ZERO chance Terry, Beene, McD or Josh will allow a trade for Pickens. His history and personality eliminates him completely in this “culture” they all seem to desire over anything else. Quote
Big Turk Posted Thursday at 07:03 PM Posted Thursday at 07:03 PM 36 minutes ago, JAMIEBUF12 said: How about a trade with the Cowboys for wide receiver George Pickens ? I think if Dallas loses again before the trade deadline Jerry may just decide to blow it up a little with all the draft picks he is sitting on. Dallas traded a 2026 3rd round and a 2027 5th round pick for Pickens. The Bills could offer a 2026 2nd rounder and a player? Pickens could excel on the Bills. If the Bills end up meeting the Steelers in the playoffs I am sure George would be motivated like Diggs was against the Bills two weeks ago. It is not the sexy trade, but it would definitely help the Bills without setting the team far back and it helps Dallas if they are going into rebuild mode. GO BILLS Sure...doesn't matter that the Cowboys have ZERO interest in trading a player who is playing great that they just traded for this offseason themselves. Apparently now we live in a Madden simulation where you can just go take control of the Cowboys team and force them to trade Pickens to us. Where do people come up with this stuff? 1 1 1 Quote
zow2 Posted Thursday at 07:23 PM Posted Thursday at 07:23 PM Beane traded for Cooper last season, there was negligible payoff and the man was injured seemingly 5 minutes after he got to Buffalo. I don't know if he is thinking about trading for another WR or Safety? But Beane needs to plug everything in to GM brain...and think about his speech at the podium after the Bills win the SB. And during that imaginary speech... which player(s) he brought in at the deadline that made a massive difference on this ball club to get them over the hump. It shouldn't be someone on the very back end of his productivity, and it can't be someone who has not shown durability. If he finds the right guy that thinks he can get us over the hump then pull the trigger and trade the draft assets and/or players necessary. We're wasting time. Quote
Negan Posted Thursday at 07:25 PM Posted Thursday at 07:25 PM Too bad Beane has to make these scrambling trades each year, because his drafting of weapons on offense has been so destitute. Quote
MasterStrategist Posted Thursday at 07:27 PM Posted Thursday at 07:27 PM 16 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Sure...doesn't matter that the Cowboys have ZERO interest in trading a player who is playing great that they just traded for this offseason themselves. Apparently now we live in a Madden simulation where you can just go take control of the Cowboys team and force them to trade Pickens to us. Where do people come up with this stuff? Exactly this. We are also not "1 player" away from a championship roster. Unfortunately. Beane, front office, coaches, some combo - whoever people want to blame is being discussed in other threads. But pointed at these trade threads --- we shouldn't waste any high draft picks at this point of season --- you do that before the year. Beane "trusted" some of these 2nd year, 3rd year guys to make a BIG jump and the rookies/FA signings to fill out the team. So far, that 3rd category is "TBD" (injuries/suspensions), but the likes of Keon and Bishop have been disappointments and Kincaid needs to stay healthy. It is what it is, now the coaches have the bye week to figure out some adjustments. 1 Quote
TheWeatherMan Posted Thursday at 07:28 PM Posted Thursday at 07:28 PM We should have traded for him in the first place instead of this everyone eats with no #1 WR crap of a plan. The personnel moves made by Beane this offseason (which 90% of this message board pointed out at some point) are beyond dumb. Crap safeties, crap corners, no #1 WR, no LB depth should get Beane canned. 1 1 Quote
JAMIEBUF12 Posted Thursday at 07:30 PM Posted Thursday at 07:30 PM Sure...doesn't matter that the Cowboys have ZERO interest in trading a player who is playing great that they just traded for this offseason themselves. Apparently now we live in a Madden simulation where you can just go take control of the Cowboys team and force them to trade Pickens to us. Where do people come up with this stuff? Alex Smith and Jimmy Garoppolo got traded twice in a season. Never said force Dallas to trade with us....Said if Dallas loses again will they be sellers? Is all. Crazier trades have happened. Quote
Low Positive Posted Thursday at 07:30 PM Posted Thursday at 07:30 PM Speaking of former Steeler headcase WRs, Dionte Johnson is out there as a FA. He would cost nothing. Just a couple of years ago, he was one of the best young WR in the league. 1 Quote
KOKBILLS Posted Thursday at 07:31 PM Posted Thursday at 07:31 PM We could have had him for free if Beane would have just hired me... Instead I got a restraining order and we all got Kaiir Elam... 1 1 1 Quote
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted Thursday at 07:36 PM Posted Thursday at 07:36 PM Dude is a head case. He is like 1 bad game or even a bad play away from exploding. If the Steelers traded him away, you know he’s really bad. 1 1 Quote
dorquemada Posted Thursday at 07:40 PM Posted Thursday at 07:40 PM 37 minutes ago, Billsflyer12 said: There is almost ZERO chance Terry, Beene, McD or Josh will allow a trade for Pickens. His history and personality eliminates him completely in this “culture” they all seem to desire over anything else. i think this is it. The epitaph on the Josh Allen era in buffalo will be "Well they didn't win a superbowl, but those guys were PROCESS and HIGH CHARACTER all the way through" 2 Quote
Puckman5 Posted Thursday at 07:44 PM Posted Thursday at 07:44 PM Anyone that's capable of "eating more" than who we already have. Someone with the ability to allow others to eat more as well would be a bonus. Quote
KOKBILLS Posted Thursday at 07:48 PM Posted Thursday at 07:48 PM 1 minute ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Dude is a head case. He is like 1 bad game or even a bad play away from exploding. If the Steelers traded him away, you know he’s really bad. He's always been crazy... Even in College... He most definitely flies close to the sun regularly... There's no question... He's also an elite talent... If he did not have all the other issues he would have been a top 10 pick and he would never be available... So... You have to weigh it all... But no doubt the Bills would never touch Pickens... 3 Quote
dorquemada Posted Thursday at 07:51 PM Posted Thursday at 07:51 PM 3 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said: He's always been crazy... Even in College... He most definitely flies close to the sun regularly... There's no question... He's also an elite talent... If he did not have all the other issues he would have been a top 10 pick and he would never be available... So... You have to weigh it all... But no doubt the Bills would never touch Pickens... We shall always be the bridesmaid, never the bride, for receivers that can outrun coverage or otherwise get open 1 Quote
Brandon Posted Thursday at 07:57 PM Posted Thursday at 07:57 PM 2 minutes ago, dorquemada said: We shall always be the bridesmaid, never the bride, for receivers that can outrun coverage or otherwise get open I think they'd run a 5TE offense if they thought they could get away with it. The priority skill among the boundary WRs seems to be blocking ability. 1 1 Quote
boyst Posted Thursday at 08:03 PM Posted Thursday at 08:03 PM 39 minutes ago, zow2 said: Beane traded for Cooper last season, there was negligible payoff and the man was injured seemingly 5 minutes after he got to Buffalo. I don't know if he is thinking about trading for another WR or Safety? But Beane needs to plug everything in to GM brain...and think about his speech at the podium after the Bills win the SB. And during that imaginary speech... which player(s) he brought in at the deadline that made a massive difference on this ball club to get them over the hump. It shouldn't be someone on the very back end of his productivity, and it can't be someone who has not shown durability. If he finds the right guy that thinks he can get us over the hump then pull the trigger and trade the draft assets and/or players necessary. We're wasting time. i think there has been enough evidence to dispute the negligible label. we went up a good amount in ypg and on offense with him. Quote
dorquemada Posted Thursday at 08:08 PM Posted Thursday at 08:08 PM 8 minutes ago, Brandon said: I think they'd run a 5TE offense if they thought they could get away with it. The priority skill among the boundary WRs seems to be blocking ability. We laugh because otherwise we'd cry. If McD/Brady could never ever ever pass the ball again and get to 9-8 or 8-9 they would be perfectly happy with that. And before some homer gets mad, do you think this looks like an offense that has put any thought whatsoever into the passing game? They don't draft for it, they don't gameplan around it, and it would appear they dont even practice it. Quote
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