Go on record... Fire McDermott?

[LarryMadman]

Short of a Super Bowl run you absolutely can not run this back again. I have a sneaking suspicion Josh is getting irritated or has been there for a while, that it is Ground Hog Day to him, and something new needs to be tried. He'll play the good soldier until he is fed up and he will be the one calling for change. Hopefully he gives TPegs an ultimatum McBeane needs to leave or i'm leaving.

[JMM]

I've been a big McDermott supporter, I've watched the Bills for 50 years, so I know just how bad things can get. But...it's time. It's clear we are not going to get over the hump. I'm nervous that the next move might not work out, but with Josh now hitting 30, we have to take the chance. After the season McDermott needs to be fired.  

[PaoloBillsFanFromItaly]

McDermott era must end, enough of his defense.

[MrEpsYtown]

100% has outstayed his welcome, and his expiration date is long overdue. Everyone can see what is happening here. Getting us into the playoffs doesn't give one a lifetime achievement award. 

 

Beane needs to go with him. Total overhaul. 

[Jay_Fixit]

Should have happened 3 years ago.

 

Good motivator. 
Good defensive coordinator.

Likeable guy.

GREAT at clapping.

Bad head coach.

[Luka]

He's clearly lost the locker room. A lot of these guys look like they've packed it in for the year. Our start QB committed zero time in the offseason to football. You can tell he did not train, thought he'd made it once he won the MVP and could just stroll out there. He's playing like it's 2018. The rest of them team is playing like it's 2010. 

[MrEpsYtown]

IMO, you cannot be scared to move on, worried about who will replace him. That's playing scared. That's McDermott's philosophy, and now it makes sense why people in that headspace want to keep him. People are afraid to lose. McDermott is afraid to lose. You can't live that way. Get busy living or get busy dying...this thing has been fading away for years now.

 

And that seems to be the sentiment. We all pretty much know he sucks, and deep down know he won't win the big game. And the fanbase seems to be split into a group that knows he sucks but is afraid to move on and a group that wants a different voice. Then have your few loyalists who give him cart blanche because he ended the drought. 

 

He isn't it, and it will never happen with him. It does not matter who you hire because in this situation, different is better. He's a terrible head coach. 

 

Does anyone really, truly, deep down believe that we can win a Super Bowl with this guy at the helm? 

[Fan in Chicago]

58 minutes ago, FireChans said:

We are badly losing games to guys like Davis Mills who is a backup and Tua who is basically out of the playoffs already. 
 

Can it REALLY get worse?

It cannot. That's the realization I had. 

[thenorthremembers]

I think McDermott is a good head coach.  If we fire him I think he has another job quick.    He is a better defensive coach then people give him credit for.  Beane has handed him a pile of garbage to try and win with this year.   With all of that said, with Josh on the verge of turning 30, its time to see what a different regime can get out of him.    The team feels old and out of juice.  Need some new blood in the organization to see if they can jumpstart it.    It could very well be worse but not doing anything feels negligent.  

[NastyNateSoldiers]

I would love to see both Mcd and Beane fired but just think Pegs will give them at least 2 more yrs. What I do believe will happen is a major shakeup in the coaching staff both coordinators will be fired and we will hire 2 veteran Coordinators to replace them . 

 

Not saying I want these guys but I can see them hiring Mike McCoy and Ron Rivera or McCarthy and Rivera. Daboll won't be hired unless Pegs forces it on Mcd because Josh wants him back. Daboll is definitely the best we could do at OC no doubt about it. 

[Kelly to Allen]

11 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

IMO, you cannot be scared to move on, worried about who will replace him. That's playing scared. That's McDermott's philosophy, and now it makes sense why people in that headspace want to keep him. People are afraid to lose. McDermott is afraid to lose. You can't live that way. Get busy living or get busy dying...this thing has been fading away for years now.

 

And that seems to be the sentiment. We all pretty much know he sucks, and deep down know he won't win the big game. And the fanbase seems to be split into a group that knows he sucks but is afraid to move on and a group that wants a different voice. Then have your few loyalists who give him cart blanche because he ended the drought. 

 

He isn't it, and it will never happen with him. It does not matter who you hire because in this situation, different is better. He's a terrible head coach. 

 

Does anyone really, truly, deep down believe that we can win a Super Bowl with this guy at the helm? 

The saddest part is realizing that not only are we never winning a championship with this dick jaroun clone, it's that he probably cost us a couple championships already. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Kelly to Allen

[Bill from NYC]

1 hour ago, FireChans said:

We are badly losing games to guys like Davis Mills who is a backup and Tua who is basically out of the playoffs already. 
 

Can it REALLY get worse?

I really think that it can. We continue to draft our way downhill with McDermott pulling the strings.

[MrEpsYtown]

46 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

The saddest part is realizing that not only are we never winning a championship with this dick jaroun clone, it's that he probably cost us a couple championships already. 

 

And that's why we gotta stop the bleeding here and now. More years of this is just not good. 

[The Firebaugh Kid]

55 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

I think McDermott is a good head coach.  If we fire him I think he has another job quick.    He is a better defensive coach then people give him credit for.  Beane has handed him a pile of garbage to try and win with this year.   With all of that said, with Josh on the verge of turning 30, its time to see what a different regime can get out of him.    The team feels old and out of juice.  Need some new blood in the organization to see if they can jumpstart it.    It could very well be worse but not doing anything feels negligent.  

I'm in this camp. I like Sean. I think he blundered our best chances at a SB too though. 

Lately I place more of the blame on Beane. How many early draft picks can you whiff on? 

Those are the foundational pieces, and they're on rookie contracts. 

And all of the guys he didn't take when he had the chance.....

We lack quality depth because of these errors, and commitments to guys that we don't even USE like Samuel and Palmer. 

Blow it up. 

[Billsfanatic8989]

Yes it's time for a change. It's not working with this coaching staff. Firing coordinators is not enough. They did that already. The one common denominator is still here. 

 

I don't want Beane making the decision on a new HC either.

Edited 46 minutes ago by Billsfanatic8989

[DasNootz]

It is time for a reboot.  Thank Sean for the massive initial improvement the organization showed under his leadership, but we've reached his ceiling.

[TheFunPolice]

Get ready for the "Golly, you could do worse... I seem to remember the drought!" arguments.

 

The fact that we're having those arguments shows that this build didn't get the job done. 

 

Giving McDermott another 2-3 years accomplishes nothing. They should fire Beane today but I get waiting until the season plays out. It would be pretty dumb to fire your GM then the team makes it to the Super Bowl. I get that. But the day our season ends assuming it's not a deep playoff run he needs to be let go. 

 

McDermott is the guy who sets the tone, wants a certain kind of offense (which is why he and Daboll didn't get along) and has fired coordinator after coordinator during his time here. The buck stops with him. Do we really expect yet another OC (who will almost certainly just be promoted from within) to be different in any kind of meaningful way?

 

Imagine having an all-time great QB yet every one of his OCs gets fired. Not leaves for HC jobs. Fired. Because the offense cannot pass the ball with that QB . 

Edited 42 minutes ago by TheFunPolice

[FireChans]

57 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

I really think that it can. We continue to draft our way downhill with McDermott pulling the strings.

I’m saying can it get worse if we fire everybody

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

I know a guy who said this was a championship roster only a couple weeks ago. That in and of itself is a problem. If someone can look at this roster and say that in his judgement -good enough. The sad thing is just bringing in a better WR would have had a domino effect on this team. There's still holes, but it would make a difference to an offense that is folding.Fire Beane

Edited 40 minutes ago by D. L. Hot-Flamethrower

[Tommy Shelby]

I've never been on the fire McDermott train but I'm looking at the price of tickets now.