billsfan_34 Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago On 10/7/2025 at 11:12 AM, Johnnycage46 said: So, looking at ESPN stats through week 5, Atlanta's defensive rankings: #1 in yards per game at 244/game. #1 in pass yards per game at 135/game. #16 in rush yards per game at 109/game. #15 scoring defense at 21.5 pts/game. #6 third down defense at 34.1% Going to be a tough game. They are coming off of their bye, have a load of skill position talent on offense and have a good defense. I hope the loss to NE woke up the Bills, if not, we're looking at a 2 game slide heading into the bye. Meanwhile our D is a heaping pile of dung. It’s epically bad. 1 Quote
Scott7975 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 9 hours ago, gobills404 said: I’m getting giddy thinking about once Ed and Hoecht are back The Bills have been very good at getting pressure. They just have difficulty finishing it off and getting it home. They are also bad at losing edge contain. 1 1 Quote
EssexBill Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 9 hours ago, gobills404 said: I’m getting giddy thinking about once Ed and Hoecht are back Let’s hope Ed, Hoecht and Larry can actually tackle and don’t have butter fingers like the rest of the D, because all the pressure in the world doesn’t mean anything when they completely miss the tackles what seems like about 90% of the time Edited 5 hours ago by EssexBill 1 Quote
gobills404 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: The Bills have been very good at getting pressure. They just have difficulty finishing it off and getting it home. They are also bad at losing edge contain. I could be wrong but I bet it has something do with soft coverage as well. Giving opposing pass catchers big cushions allows QBs to get the ball out quickly on short passes. Pass rush has less time to get home. Quote
Scott7975 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Just now, gobills404 said: I could be wrong but I bet it has something do with soft coverage as well. Giving opposing pass catchers big cushions allows QBs to get the ball out quickly on short passes. Pass rush has less time to get home. I am sure that plays a part. Quote
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 23 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: The Bills have been very good at getting pressure. They just have difficulty finishing it off and getting it home. They are also bad at losing edge contain. It's a team of Ed olivers now Quote
Sojourner Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, Scott7975 said: The Bills have been very good at getting pressure. They just have difficulty finishing it off and getting it home. They are also bad at losing edge contain. Yup. I was encouraged by the pressure they applied against the Pats. Should have correlated to more stops on the backend. Quote
SoMAn Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago On 10/7/2025 at 9:52 AM, Walking Tall said: Bills wearing the white, standing buffalo throwbacks. Atlanta had a bye. Outside of the Carolina stinker, they’ve played well. I think the Bills drop another game here. It's entirely possible. Hopefully, the Bills are motivated after the Sunday night Cold Front debacle and pull out a win. After what looked like a runaway division title for the Bills after 4 games, it's not beyond the realm of possibilities that the Pats (with a win over the Saints) could be on top of the division after 6 weeks. 😗 1 Quote
finn Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, Scott7975 said: The Bills have been very good at getting pressure. They just have difficulty finishing it off and getting it home. They are also bad at losing edge contain. Beane has invested a lot in quick pressure after seeing from their two Super Bowl defeats that this is the way to beat Mahomes. Oliver, Hoecht, Ogunjobi, Walker, Sanders, Bosa... they're all penetrators, not edge setters or run stuffers. But he may have put spent too many resources there, at the expense of players who can tackle, cover, and stop the run. If you're good at only one thing and suck at everything else, other teams catch on fast. Not to put it all on Beane. Maybe he was expecting McDermott and his defensive staff would do a better job than they have. Anyway, plenty of blame to go around. The defense still has time to turn it around, as we keep telling each other. 1 Quote
zow2 Posted 54 minutes ago Posted 54 minutes ago Oh no, Orlovsky on ESPN says the Bills are on “upset alert” this Monday. Beware. Quote
CircleTheWagons99 Posted 42 minutes ago Posted 42 minutes ago Penix will look like a natural HOFer come monday night..... 1 Quote
boyst Posted 30 minutes ago Posted 30 minutes ago 20 minutes ago, zow2 said: Oh no, Orlovsky on ESPN says the Bills are on “upset alert” this Monday. Beware. i think it's an incredibly high probability that we lose compared to other games this season. i think we are at risk of losing this game more than the Eagles game, for example. We do not match up as well as the Falcons who can power run it, who have a stingy defense, who are at home on a Monday night and have motivation to upset the Bills. The Eagles and Chiefs are capable of sleepwalking the regular season and know it. the eagles do not interest me with their low risk plays and passive play calling to consume the clock and mitigate Hurts passing. by that time we may even be firing on some bigger play potential. we matchup well against the Eagles because we are similar in many ways. the chiefs are the only contender i have for us later in the season but we know that this team will be able to rise to the occasion - as long as they win - i do not think there is much to fear. the falcons will have their ears pinned back on defense, bijan is going to bring the truck against our defense and pennix will struggle against the McD defense which is even too complicated for even our own team. Pennix could be delivery fatal runs and schoolyard plays. Quote
fergie's ire Posted 22 minutes ago Posted 22 minutes ago 13 hours ago, jkeerie said: I'm not worried about our D line. I think this really demonstrates how poor our secondary is. I don't think the plan was for Tre to man the position. But injuries to Hairston and now Strong have hamstrung the Bills. I'd like to see them work Hancock into the secondary. It functions as a unit...only as strong as its weakest link. Right now, the weak links are Tre and Rapp. If they can eliminate one of those, that would certainly help. Agreed. Part of the problem might also be schematic. Bills have been getting quick pressure, but if receivers aren't facing tight coverage, that doesn't help. The QB can always dump it quickly to an open receiver. If you want to have an aggressive defense, the corners need to be aggressive and play the receivers tight from the line. It might mean getting beat deep occasionally, but if it also leeds to turnovers and short possessions, you can live with that. Of course, it would help to have at least one corner with speed which is why Hairston is so important, and his injury is why you probably want at least one more. 1 Quote
SoCal Deek Posted 15 minutes ago Posted 15 minutes ago (edited) 7 minutes ago, fergie's ire said: Agreed. Part of the problem might also be schematic. Bills have been getting quick pressure, but if receivers aren't facing tight coverage, that doesn't help. The QB can always dump it quickly to an open receiver. If you want to have an aggressive defense, the corners need to be aggressive and play the receivers tight from the line. It might mean getting beat deep occasionally, but if it also leeds to turnovers and short possessions, you can live with that. Of course, it would help to have at least one corner with speed which is why Hairston is so important, and his injury is why you probably want at least one more. So in summary, the Bills defense is a schematic mess. The three levels of the defense are utterly disconnected from each other in what they’re trying to do. And I’d even toss in the fourth level if you consider that our two safeties are playing so far back they’re close to being in the first row of the end zone. (Maybe they’ll catch a football back there and run up the stands on their way out of the stadium.) Edited 14 minutes ago by SoCal Deek Quote
MasterStrategist Posted 9 minutes ago Posted 9 minutes ago 18 minutes ago, boyst said: i think it's an incredibly high probability that we lose compared to other games this season. i think we are at risk of losing this game more than the Eagles game, for example. We do not match up as well as the Falcons who can power run it, who have a stingy defense, who are at home on a Monday night and have motivation to upset the Bills. The Eagles and Chiefs are capable of sleepwalking the regular season and know it. the eagles do not interest me with their low risk plays and passive play calling to consume the clock and mitigate Hurts passing. by that time we may even be firing on some bigger play potential. we matchup well against the Eagles because we are similar in many ways. the chiefs are the only contender i have for us later in the season but we know that this team will be able to rise to the occasion - as long as they win - i do not think there is much to fear. the falcons will have their ears pinned back on defense, bijan is going to bring the truck against our defense and pennix will struggle against the McD defense which is even too complicated for even our own team. Pennix could be delivery fatal runs and schoolyard plays. Going to be a big week to get Ed back, and for our LBs to step up. Bijan is top priority, run game but hes also very dangerous in their pass game and used alot there. Then shut down Pitts. I'd lock Benford on London all game. If Penix beats us going to London, so be it. Just dont want to see Bijan picking up chunck yardage. Their defense can be ran on. But I suspect they react with bringing safeties down a lot. Need to see the field better and our OL can hold up in pass pro. Bills 33 Falcons 27 Quote
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