For all you McDermott haters, who would you want? (Now a poll)

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

(Hopefully this doesn’t get merged with all the other McDermott threads)

 

This is as straight forward as it gets. Using all the information we have. Do you think the Bills will ever win a Super Bowl with this guy as our head coach? Doesn’t mean this year. Just ever? Yes or No?

[Gregg]

No.

[oldmanfan]

There were some questionable coaching decisions last night.  But players have to play.  Players have to quit doing dumb things like not lining up on the line of scrimmage.  Defensive players have to tackle and cover better.  Offensive players have to block better and WRs run better patterns and come back to the ball when they see the QB scrambling.  The QB has to not throw into the middle against double coverage.  And so on.

 

I texted my daughter during the game they were just playing dumb last night.  They won’t do that all year.

[Avisan]

1 minute ago, corta765 said:

Rings change everything. Payton's offenses also were pretty legendary to the point other coaches asked him routinely including BB what he was doing so well scheme wise. McD has none of that and what is supposed to be his calling card with defense has now eroded to a point you have zero faith in it.

Ring, singular, competing in a conference without a dynasty, with prime Brees.  This is exactly my point, despite these advantages, the Saints just... weren't THAT good, consistently.  They were almost always good, but they had years they missed the playoffs and didn't really stand out from the other good NFC teams.  Meanwhile, the AFC has the Patriots to deal with.  The Brees/Payton teams had comparable success to the non-Pats AFC teams despite not having the Pats to deal with in-conference.  I see no reason to think he would have gotten better results than McDermott during the last 4 years.

[Fleezoid]

1 minute ago, Gregg said:

No.

 

I know there's only 2 possible answers here, but you stole mine. 

[Don Otreply]

If “ALL THE STARS ALIGN “ yes

[Augie]

4 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

(Hopefully this doesn’t get merged with all the other McDermott threads)

 

This is as straight forward as it gets. Using all the information we have. Do you think the Bills will ever win a Super Bowl with this guy as our head coach? Doesn’t mean this year. Just ever? Yes or No?

 

Why not? 

[T.E.]

No. The identity he has constructed for this team requires the offense to essentially be close to perfect for long stretches both in games and over the course of a season to consistently win.  Tough to do over a playoff run, though they were halfway there in 2021 before you-know-what happened.

[Maynard]

1 minute ago, Don Otreply said:

If “ALL THE STARS ALIGN “ yes

I think that’s the best way to put it.

[finn]

Depends on whether the league thinks it will make it as much or more money than sending the Chiefs back. I wouldn't bet on it. 

[Billsfanatic8989]

Absolutely not

[QB Bills]

As head coach? No

 

As assistant clapping advisor? Possibly.

[Kirby Jackson]

20 minutes ago, Avisan said:

McDermott turned around a doormat, too.

 

Did Payton have a "crazy run" with Brees?  How are you measuring that?  He had the best QB in the NFC for basically the entirety of prime Brees.

 

The Bills likely would have been playing for a chip last year if the refs weren't screwing them on spots all night.

 

I think there are fair questions to be had regarding the McBeane regime, but the idea that Payton or Vrabel would waltz in and create a championship team with our roster is super questionable.

 

Payton is 9-9 in the playoffs. One of those losses was that Denver team last year that isn’t good. So he was 9-8 with Brees. That’s similar to McDermott. He has a Super Bowl title and was robbed of a 2nd appearance with the worst call in history. If they throw the flag on NRC, and the Saints go to a 2nd, he walks into the HOF. He’s a bad guy but the thought of people around here that McDermott > Payton is WILD to me. You need to win when it matters most. He’s done that. The Bills would 100% have a Super Bowl title (or a few) by now if it had been Sean Payton instead of Sean McDermott. 
 

I’m not here to dwell on Sean Payton though. That ship has sailed. The point is, lots of people could win 1-2 playoffs games a year with Josh Allen. That’s not good enough. That’s not the goal.

Edited 9 hours ago by Kirby Jackson

[Niagara Dude]

16 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

(Hopefully this doesn’t get merged with all the other McDermott threads)

 

This is as straight forward as it gets. Using all the information we have. Do you think the Bills will ever win a Super Bowl with this guy as our head coach? Doesn’t mean this year. Just ever? Yes or No?

Not with McDermott as the HC,  he is a sneaky narcissist and can handle seeing another big name defensive cordinator coming in to fix our biggest issue.  I also believe he still believes in run first offence which holds back of team. I will say that if i was a team that was rebuilding and have not made the playoffs in years then he would be one of the first guys i look at hiring.  

[Billsfanatic8989]

Just now, Maynard said:

I think that’s the best way to put it.

This.

 

If the other team is injured and/or the opponent makes unbelievably dumb mistakes, it's possible. 

[Johnnycage46]

Never. I don't think even with a change at HC and front office, that Allen ever gets one with the Bills. This team is cursed. 

[Billsfanatic8989]

1 minute ago, Niagara Dude said:

Not with McDermott as the HC,  he is a sneaky narcissist and can handle seeing another big name defensive cordinator coming in to fix our biggest issue.  I also believe he still believes in run first offence which holds back of team. I will say that if i was a team that was rebuilding and have not made the playoffs in years then he would be one of the first guys i look at hiring.  

This. 

 

He would do great with a team like Arizona, Carolina etc. 

[corta765]

Just now, Kirby Jackson said:

Payton is 9-9 in the playoffs. One of those losses was that Denver team last year that isn’t good. So he was 9-8 with Brees. That’s similar to McDermott. He has a Super Bowl title and was robbed of a 2nd appearance with the worst call in history. If they throw the flag on NRC, and the Saints go to a 2nd, he walks into the HOF. He’s a bad guy but the thought of people around here that McDermott > Payton is WILD to me. You need to win when it matters most. He’s done that. The Bills would 100% have a Super Bowl title (or a few) by now if it had been Sean Payton instead of Sean McDermott. 

 

Also in a much much larger level he and Brees both had to help rebuild a franchise/city that was literally destroyed by Katrina. This wasn't just a come in, draft well, and go type of thing. The entire operation itself had to be literally reset from the bottom up. That takes a special coach to be able to do that AND also have the success that followed.

[goldenboy81]

If Allen carries the team yes. If he doesn't, then no

[transient]

Maybe if the Bills have pristine health going into the playoffs and every opponent loses all of their running backs, their CB1 and their WR1 the week prior to playing the Bills.