Where is Landon Jackson ???

[The Jokeman]

10 hours ago, nedboy7 said:

Shakir is a bust.  Felt good to finally say it.  

and to think we could have taken Skyy Moore in the 2nd Round of the same draft..

[HamptonBillsfan]

He’s obviously not showing the quality needed to break into the Sunday lineup and thats with a group that desperately needs a pass rusher from the edge. I guess Hancock is not fully healthy because we need another cb with our propensity to make the Spencer Rattlers of the world look like Joe Burrow.

[PoundingDog]

When he was put on PUP before the training camp, it raised a red flag to me. Often teams do that to rookies when some physical requirement is not met.

[gonzo1105]

27 minutes ago, Billl said:

There’s a ton of room between “instant star” and still having the tags on your jersey.  That said, if there’s any organization that deserves the benefit of the doubt regarding players who are slow out of the gate, it’s the Bills.  It’s one of the reasons I think McDermott deserves a lot more credit than some give him.  He can flat out develop players.

Yes and I understand where your coming from but there are plenty of examples on this Bills team alone where guys who needed development have become at the very least good players after not playing much in their first year

 

Bernard didn’t play at all, Shakir was non existent as a rookie, Epenesa was inactive half the season(I think he’s not a great player btw), Spencer Brown and Dalton Kincaid took 3 years to be who they are, Bishop is rapidly improving after looking like a lost puppy and injured as a rookie. 
 

At least for the Bills, Jackson not being active isn’t an indicator of being a bust. He would be active on game days but the Bills 4th DE, Javon Solomon, is on a lot of the Special teams units and that’s the difference right now in him being active or not 

[BillMafia716ix]

Obviously he hasn’t been good enough to get a game jersey. It is what it is. 

[Mat68]

Are we sure this is an indictment on Jackson and not simply a prove it moment for Solomon.  He flashed some last year. He is playing every special team snap. Also, getting his first rational snaps on defense. When the 2 suspensions are lifted Solomon  was always a number to watch.  I think we are at the point where he is a liability on defense.  If this is still the story in 2 weeks or 4 than the Jackson questions will carry more weight.  I do think avoiding 3 rookies on the field at once is a factor too. 

Edited Tuesday at 02:52 PM by Mat68

[Lost]

1 hour ago, BillMafia716ix said:

Obviously he hasn’t been good enough to get a game jersey. It is what it is. 

 

Yeah but he's married.  Both McDermott and Beane told me so.   That's gotta count for something.

[ngbills]

13 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Philly took Jalen Carter top 10 

 

Jordan Davis top 15 

 

And devante Smith top 10 

 

Bills haven't had a top 15 pick since 2019

 

Three of their best players came in an earlier pick than the bills have had in six seasons

Isnt this about a guy picked in the last draft? Not drafting all time. That would be a whole other discussion. 

[ngbills]

11 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

And Jackson Hawes, Deone Walker, TJ Sanders, and Dorian Strong are all hovering at around 100 snaps.

 

This is shaping up as an excellent rookie class.

 

I don't know if you're trolling or just lack perspective.

 

 

Thank you.

 

I didnt realize this thread was about the entire draft class. This was about Landon Jackson not an evaluation of the draft class. Our 3rd round pick has not seen a snap and I was pointing out that our 1st rounder has not either. They are 2 of only 3 players league wide picked that early in the draft that have not played. It is more of a fact than a criticism. And being 4-0 with no impact from 2 of your top 3 picks...

[skibum]

I'm sure he'll get out there eventually. Someone will either get dinged up or have one too many bad games. It's just a deep position at the moment, and there's not a compelling enough reason to put him on the field. 

[Sierra Foothills]

On 9/29/2025 at 9:14 AM, ngbills said:

Jackson and Hairston are 2 of 3 players picked in the top 72 picks that have yet to play a down. 

 

13 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:

And Jackson Hawes, Deone Walker, TJ Sanders, and Dorian Strong are all hovering at around 100 snaps.

 

This is shaping up as an excellent rookie class.

 

I don't know if you're trolling or just lack perspective.

 

2 hours ago, ngbills said:

I didnt realize this thread was about the entire draft class. This was about Landon Jackson not an evaluation of the draft class. Our 3rd round pick has not seen a snap and I was pointing out that our 1st rounder has not either. They are 2 of only 3 players league wide picked that early in the draft that have not played. It is more of a fact than a criticism. And being 4-0 with no impact from 2 of your top 3 picks...

 

You brought our 1st round pick into the discussion and it seemed like you were making a negative statement ("Jackson and Hairston are 2 of 3 players picked in the top 72 picks that have yet to play a down. ") about the 2025 draft class.

 

In following up you're saying that Hairston and Jackson not playing is "more of a fact than a criticism" which clarifies the intent of your first post.

 

Sorry if I misinterpreted.

 

More broadly, I understand that people can criticize an individual pick 4 weeks into the season if they want to but knowing the crapshoot nature of the draft, it seems fairer and wiser to look at the entire draft class.

 

We have 4 rookies that area already getting significant playing time and we haven't even seen Hairston, Jackson, or Hancock.

 

IMO this is looking like a great draft and so I guess I'm sensitive when someone wants to prematurely judge one member of the class... if that makes any sense.

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

Instead of drafting this often injured JAG in the 3rd round, it would have been nice to draft another field stretching WR like Worthy in the 3rd round and pair him with Coleman.

 

A nice gift to Josh.

 

That way Bills wouldn't have to sign washed up WRs like Moore or Palmer. 

 

Our current WR core is absolutely abysmal other than Coleman and Shakir 

[Simon]

8 hours ago, HamptonBillsfan said:

I guess Hancock is not fully healthy because we need another cb with our propensity to make the Spencer Rattlers of the world look like Joe Burrow.

 

Spencer Rattler had a grand total of 6 completions for 50 yards to his entire WR corps.

[Pete]

Just now, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

Instead of drafting this often injured JAG in the 3rd round, it would have been nice to draft another field stretching WR like Worthy in the 3rd round and pair him with Coleman.

 

A nice gift to Josh.

 

That way Bills wouldn't have to sign washed up WRs like Moore or Palmer. 

 

Our current WR core is absolutely abysmal other than Coleman and Shakir 

a few speedy WRs still available when we selected Landon.

 

Jaylin Noel 4.38

Tai Felton 4.37

Jaylin Lane 4.34

Jordan Watkins 4.37

Chimere ***** 4.34

[krf139]

Talking head mouthpiece for the regime Sal Cappacio says Jackson being inactive is a GOOD thing. My lord 

[HamptonBillsfan]

1 hour ago, Simon said:

 

Spencer Rattler had a grand total of 6 completions for 50 yards to his entire WR corps.

They didn’t need him to throw because they were moving the ball effortlessly on the ground with Kamara and Rattler until they were in the red zone. Rattler should have had another TD if Shaheen had caught a wide open TD throw. What’s the difference, that game was too close for comfort.

[FLFan]

1 hour ago, Simon said:

 

Spencer Rattler had a grand total of 6 completions for 50 yards to his entire WR corps.

Don’t confuse him with facts.

[Wolfgang]

He's at the barber shop...

[Aussie Joe]

On 9/30/2025 at 12:39 AM, billsfan89 said:

Landon Jackson not having much of an impact his rookie year does not mean he is a bust. Please stop. Shakir and Bernard (and Bernard was a 3rd rounder too) didn't have much impact year 1. We could go on and on about players who didn't have much impact year 1 and went on to be productive players. Yes for a earlyish 3rd round pick you at least want the player to come in and be a back end rotational player. But Jackson likely fell in the draft despite his amazing physical acumen (9.88 to 9.95 RAS score) because teams probably felt like he was very raw and needed time to develop. Teams drafting players in the top 80-90 picks usually want guys that can come in right away and contribute.

 

High upside but low short term impact is exactly the type of luxury pick the Bills as an organization could afford. The Bills entering the draft had 4 DE's that are solid starting or high end rotation options in Groot, AJE, Bosa, and Hoecht plus they had Solomon in the mix a mid-round pick who had a year to develop. The Bills taking a chance on a physical freak who may need a year to develop is exactly the type of high risk high reward move the Bills should have made. 

 

They did they exact thing with Walker in round 4 taking a chance on a high end talent with an injury (back injury for a guy that massive is a concern) and he is paying dividends early because his concerns were more health than developmental. Overall I'm not concerned a rookie is raw. I think it is possible Landon is a bust but I am going to shelve my concerns until next year...

This is a reasonable analysis…I agree that we should be taking these types of risks on players with high ceilings and freakish  athletic ability on Day 2 of the draft to try to strike some gold…. This strategy worked with Spencer Brown who was as raw as sashimi …but you have to expect some bad  with the good with this process and there will be some busts …

 

getting back to LJ …I didnt think he was that roar a prospect to be honest ….started 30 games in the SEC…anyway it’s way to early to be writing him off just yet …

 

 

[Sojourner]

10 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

getting back to LJ …I didnt think he was that roar a prospect to be honest ….started 30 games in the SEC…anyway it’s way to early to be writing him off just yet …