Game week thread - Pats at Bills SNF

[Scott7975]

1 minute ago, MarkMiller said:

“probably not Josh Allen elite” you guys are hilarious. Bills by 14+ on this one. 

 

Yes probably not going to reach the level of Josh Allen or any other elite QB. I feel he can be a tier below. That is my opinion. There is a chance any QB can become elite. It's unlikely but there is still a chance. When Josh was drafted, how many people here thought he would be who he is at that time? Almost no one. 

 

I'm not even talking about this year or right this second. I'm talking about in the future. I don't say things definitive usually. If that is hilarious to you then that says more about you than it does me.

[eball]

7 hours ago, Bills!Win! said:

In my honest opinion, I don’t think most of these players are injured as we think they are. I believe that McDermott is just so tired of having injuries in the playoffs that he’s going to play it conservative the whole year.

 

Can’t think that way as an NFL coach.  They’re trying to win every game.  McD knows the best path to the Super Bowl is the #1 seed.  Now, will he give a guy an extra week if he’s not “all the way back” — probably depends on the opponent.

 

[Magox]

Not sure how it happened but I got caught up in an algorithmic hell on X and all I see are Patriots fanboys talking up Drake Maye and the Patriots.     They are uber confident they can take down the Bills and that Drake could be MVP.

 

I think the Bills will be super focused and will play with lots of intensity for this game, and they will need it because the Patriots are gonna play tough football.     Maye has also been a third down killer this year which has been a sore spot for us, AGAIN.   Need to make sure that we are better against the run and leave them some longer third downs than what they’d like to see.

[Rockinon]

1 hour ago, eball said:

 

Can’t think that way as an NFL coach.  They’re trying to win every game.  McD knows the best path to the Super Bowl is the #1 seed.  Now, will he give a guy an extra week if he’s not “all the way back” — probably depends on the opponent.

 

Agree. You play to win. It's balancing act though. Some tough decisions are made and I think McD knows enough to not put a guy in jeopardy by risking their career. Things like just managing a pain tolerance thing, and a big game coming....you play. 

[Rockinon]

2 minutes ago, Magox said:

Not sure how it happened but I got caught up in an algorithmic hell on X and all I see are Patriots fanboys talking up Drake Maye and the Patriots.     They are uber confident they can take down the Bills and that Drake could be MVP.

 

I think the Bills will be super focused and will play with lots of intensity for this game, and they will need it because the Patriots are gonna play tough football.     Maye has also been a third down killer this year which has been a sore spot for us, AGAIN.   Need to make sure that we are better against the run and leave them some longer third downs than what they’d like to see.

They have struggled running the ball. This could be a get right game for Buffalo. I'm certain the D knows they have been stinking up the field and are itching to get back on track. I wouldn't be surprised if they come out swinging haymakers. I think the difference is little things that need to be cleaned up. I don't think this D is weak. They've made some big time plays in the 4th qtr. That's a sign they can be better.

[H2o]

The Pats are on the right track if they keep building around Drake Maye. Vrabel was a solid hire for them as HC. I expect him to be there for an extended period. Josh McDaniels is a good OC. Maye looks better in year 2. Diggs is having a decent year thus far. Hunter Henry is still a solid TE. Their defense has some nice pieces. I expect meathead to have a solid gameplan on defense. He's seen Josh many times. 

 

This is a division game and those are usually tough. Still, I expect us to win at home. Our issues stopping the run could make this a breakout game for TreVeyon Henderson, but I hope not. They may keep it closer than any of us would like though.  

[Boo Radley Boston]

9 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Thanks for proving my point. I too can google 4 weeks of stats. I’m just not delusional enough to believe that a pretty good QB, with a 5-11 record, looks like the world’s best player, reigning MVP who also happens to be +100 to be the MVP again. Lol, that’s EXACTLY the craziness that I’m talking about. 

I only stated "facts" and never implied in any way shape of form that Maye was the worlds best player. Of course the last 4 games are relevant to this game because rookie QB are suppose to improve in year 2. Which has been the case thus far. Exaggerations from left field do not change anything.

 

Best of luck with that MVP trophy.

 

12 minutes ago, H2o said:

The Pats are on the right track if they keep building around Drake Maye. Vrabel was a solid hire for them as HC. I expect him to be there for an extended period. Josh McDaniels is a good OC. Maye looks better in year 2. Diggs is having a decent year thus far. Hunter Henry is still a solid TE. Their defense has some nice pieces. I expect meathead to have a solid gameplan on defense. He's seen Josh many times. 

 

This is a division game and those are usually tough. Still, I expect us to win at home. Our issues stopping the run could make this a breakout game for TreVeyon Henderson, but I hope not. They may keep it closer than any of us would like though.  

Buffalo has won 13 straight.

 

Its probably Mayes toughest game yet. 

[Kirby Jackson]

2 minutes ago, Boo Radley Boston said:

I only stated "facts" and never implied in any way shape of form that Maye was the worlds best player. Of course the last 4 games are relevant to this game because rookie QB are suppose to improve in year 2. Which has been the case thus far. Exaggerations from left field do not change anything.

 

Best of luck with that MVP trophy.

 

The point was, and is, “Pats fans are delusional in believing that there is competition within the AFCE.” You came in here, posting links to 4 games worth of stats. Lol, then you backed it up with, “it is relevant.” The Bills are -1800 to win the AFCE. They are an 8.5 favorite. Vegas thinks it’s more likely that the Bills win by 20.5 (+336) than the Pats win at all (+350). The gap is still MASSIVE. Y’all are improving but the odds of you getting curb-stomped back into reality are greater than the odds of you winning. 

[Fan in Chicago]

7 minutes ago, Boo Radley Boston said:

 

Best of luck with that MVP trophy.

 

The Bills and Allen don't need luck to win . Does this line of thinking make you sleep better at night? Or make you feel better about the fortunes of your team in the AFCE? A LOT has to happen before Maye can hold a candle to Allen and your Pats challenge for the division. Aint happening this year. 

Fans of other teams who come to this board often have a balanced view of the game and players. You clearly came here to somehow throw random numbers and pass them off as "facts" to support some weird takes. 

[Johnnycage46]

16 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:

The Bills and Allen don't need luck to win . Does this line of thinking make you sleep better at night? Or make you feel better about the fortunes of your team in the AFCE? A LOT has to happen before Maye can hold a candle to Allen and your Pats challenge for the division. Aint happening this year. 

Fans of other teams who come to this board often have a balanced view of the game and players. You clearly came here to somehow throw random numbers and pass them off as "facts" to support some weird takes. 

 

More importantly, the Bills don't need to cheat like the Patriots did for 2 decades.

[oldmanfan]

Bills will win but it will be a tougher game than many anticipate, just like last week.

[Rockinon]

13 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Bills will win but it will be a tougher game than many anticipate, just like last week.

You sure about that?

[Sierra Foothills]

14 hours ago, K-9 said:

Sucks that he’s injured, but I won’t miss Dorian Williams in the lineup at all. 

 

11 hours ago, Low Positive said:

The lopsided score was a result of Carolina quitting after two special teams blunders. Whatever they do, the Bills need to keep punts away from Jones. In both of NE's wins this year, he's been the difference maker. 

 

I'm a bit concerned if Dorian Williams misses the game from a special teams standpoint.

 

11 hours ago, Bills!Win! said:

In my honest opinion, I don’t think most of these players are injured as we think they are. I believe that McDermott is just so tired of having injuries in the playoffs that he’s going to play it conservative the whole year.

 

I disagree with the bolded... agree with the second sentence.

 

3 hours ago, eball said:

Can’t think that way as an NFL coach.  They’re trying to win every game.  McD knows the best path to the Super Bowl is the #1 seed.  Now, will he give a guy an extra week if he’s not “all the way back” — probably depends on the opponent.

 

Agree.

 

My gut feeling is that Oliver, Brown, and Milano are all close decisions for this week.

 

[Boo Radley Boston]

39 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

The point was, and is, “Pats fans are delusional in believing that there is competition within the AFCE.” You came in here, posting links to 4 games worth of stats. Lol, then you backed it up with, “it is relevant.” The Bills are -1800 to win the AFCE. They are an 8.5 favorite. Vegas thinks it’s more likely that the Bills win by 20.5 (+336) than the Pats win at all (+350). The gap is still MASSIVE. Y’all are improving but the odds of you getting curb-stomped back into reality are greater than the odds of you winning. 

Hilarious

 

Vegas is in to make money. Also, they are not always correct and screw up all the time. How much money did you place on the Bills? Miami played the Bills a lot closer than anyone thought.

 

You still do not grasp why 2025 statistics are germane to this discussion.

[Solomon Grundy]

I'm more worried about Maye using his legs to extend drives. Rattler killed us last week 

[Boo Radley Boston]

47 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:

The Bills and Allen don't need luck to win . Does this line of thinking make you sleep better at night? Or make you feel better about the fortunes of your team in the AFCE? A LOT has to happen before Maye can hold a candle to Allen and your Pats challenge for the division. Aint happening this year. 

Fans of other teams who come to this board often have a balanced view of the game and players. You clearly came here to somehow throw random numbers and pass them off as "facts" to support some weird takes. 

No

 

If what I posted is wrong and random then show everyone where it is not factual. Step up.

[Shortchaz]

I think the pats are going to try to steal a possession or two with trick plays. I’d be on high alert for a fake punt. 

[eball]

13 minutes ago, Boo Radley Boston said:

Vegas is in to make money. Also, they are not always correct and screw up all the time.

 

Could there be a more naive statement than this?  LOL

 

Bye bye Pat Patriot.

 

[boyst]

12 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

So "ceiling" means the best you're capable of.  Is that how you're using the word?

Factually, Vrabel coached Titans had 11 wins in 2020 and 12 wins in 2021.  So there isn't a "maybe" about it.

Any coach is going to struggle if his guys get injured.

Vrabel's main problem in Tenn was the team hitching their wagon to Tannehill at QB.

 

 

i certainly understand what you're saying but I am looking at it through a lens that with this PAtriots team it's the window of his ceiling.

[stevewin]

Oh great.  "Opposing fan coming in peace' now here to totally pollute thread