9/28/2025 Bills vs Saints post game thread

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

4 hours ago, BigDingus said:

I don't like the whole "a win's a win" mindset. 

 

Heard that after so many games in 2022. People just ignored & hand-waved away the glaring issues this team had just because they got the win, only for them to show up immediately in the playoffs. 

 

At this point in the season, it's fine. "A win's a win" in week 4. 

 

But if we're still saying that in week 10 or week 14, then how you play in those wins actually matters much more. 

People take regular season wins for granted. Look at Baltimore. They’re in danger of losing their division possibly because of a sloppy start. A win IS a win. Getting the 1 seed is priority #1 and you do that by having the best regular season record possible. 

[NoSaint]

19 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

That’s a fair point.  I think they didn’t want to change the playbook for him.  I’m guessing it’s a play he can run, just no one expected him to get tripped like that.

a) I’m not sure that’s your 4th and inches play ever but especially with a backup pulling.

 

b) of course you cater playcalling to who is on the field 

[balln]

24 minutes ago, TwoFlocksofFury said:

No, no. When do we get to see the D's B game?

Yup D is shaping up to be a bottom 1/3rd unit 

[Big Blitz]

25 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

And we're 4-0 , best team in the AFC 

The 3-0 Chargers lost to an 0-3 team 

 

Yea look we’re one of the 2-3 best teams in the league.  
 

We are nowhere near peak especially on defense.
 

Which I think obvious to all, needs help.  
 

That Chiefs D performance vs the Ravens is a statement game.  The statement was our D is still elite and our O is nowhere near where it will be in December.  

[Bruffalo]

Man, this was one of those games where it was way more stressful than it needed to be. Here are the positives:

 

- Cook continues to look fantastic. 

- Allen can still take over a game when called on.

- Cole Bishop had a pretty INT. 

- Deone Walker looks good. 

- Still won by two scores while looking like doodoo for huge stretches of the game. 

 

Now for the negatives:

 

- The defense continues to be suspect. Here's the thing, if they could tackle I think they'd actually be really good, maybe even elite. They're often times in the right spot, but they just refuse to finish the damn play. It's infuriating. 

- The Special Teams unit. Is it bad that I said "no big loss" after the punter got assaulted? He was bad, the roughing penalty is the only positive he had all game. 

- Ryan Van Demark looked out of his element.  He was a really apparent weak spot on the offense. 

- Deone Walker is the only defensive draft pick that's contributing right now. Not great. 

 

 

Last week I praised the Bills for their intentionality. This game seemed to have none of that, it felt frenetic, chaotic, and rudderless for a good portion of the game. Despite that, they still won by a significant margin and the game was never out of hand.  Celebrate the win and let's hope they clean it up. 

[JohnnyBuffalo]

There are two things I think the Bills can clean up and it would have made this game feel differently.   
 

Penalties and getting too cute on offense.  
 

Get back to clean play and stick with what’s working.   The D seems to need time to adjust and has been able to finish decently. 
 

4-0!!! Will be a test to get to 5-0 so hopefully they have a good week of preparation.  
 

Go Bills!

[NoSaint]

1 hour ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Another way to say this is ‘in one specific week of the regular season looking at  the half of the league that won, not even all of those remaining teams would’ve scored 30 if you gifted them up to 23% of the 30 total points 😂 last week, 5 of the winners still wouldn’t have scored 30 if you gave them 7 bonus points and one of them would’ve hit 30 on the nose 

 

I guess my phrasing was poor but to the point that I don’t think our 31 is of any real noteworthy difference to the Texans 26. I didn’t watch every game to catch whether struggles to get to 25 vs taking the foot of the gas but I suspect our last field goal didn’t mean we were terribly more accomplished than if we set the threshold at a number in the 20s or substantially worse than if the thread argued we failed by not crossing 32.

 

my point simply being that it isn’t like scoring 30 is driving away from the pack. Half the league is 25+ so far this week

Edited Monday at 01:34 AM by NoSaint

[JohnNord]

6 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

a) I’m not sure that’s your 4th and inches play ever but especially with a backup pulling.

 

b) of course you cater playcalling to who is on the field 

I didn’t love the call in that situation 

[PromoTheRobot]

2 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:

 

 

when was that though …10 years ago…or more ?

 

Yes it’s nice that things have changed …along with expectations…

 

My point is winning games is all that matters. All those times we "almost" won got us diddly-squat. Now maybe the Saints almost won today. Good for them. They still lost and we won.

[JohnNord]

4 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

Yea look we’re one of the 2-3 best teams in the league.  
 

We are nowhere near peak especially on defense.
 

Which I think obvious to all, needs help.  
 

That Chiefs D performance vs the Ravens is a statement game.  The statement was our D is still elite and our O is nowhere near where it will be in December.  

 

It’s a week to week league and it’s only week 4.  Will a “statement game” in week 4 matter much in Week 18?  We’ve seen many times where it didn’t 

[26TrapDraw]

5 hours ago, Donuts and Doritos said:

Lots to clean up. Feels lucky to beat Baltimore, Miami & now N.O.

It’s crazy we can score on anyone any time. Our D has got to figure out a way to get the run D buttoned up and get home more on our pass rush. 4-0 part is good. Long season. Let’s just hope our D settles in and gets the kinks out. 

[BillsFooteball]

1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

yeah, today for some reason I thought guys were slipping a lot. Off the top of my head, I remember both Palmer and Samuel slipping on routes, bishop slipping in coverage, the saints TE awkwardly slipping out of bounds, and even the Tre 4th down tackle on Kamara

seemed To be kamara slipping. 
 

just seemed really unusual for such a nice day.

Yeah I was questioning this towards the end of the game. It was beautiful day yet  players were slipping all game. I don’t recall seeing this so much for ideal weather conditions. Samuel alone slipped about 4 times 

[JohnNord]

1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

My point is winning games is all that matters. All those times we "almost" won got us diddly-squat. Now maybe the Saints almost won today. Good for them. They still lost and we won.

It’s the whole distributive property of NFL football.

 

some fans think - well the Saints are bad and they Bills could only win by 12.  The Patriots scored 40+ to beat the Panthers who are also bad.  So that means the Patriots will handily beat the Bills, right?

 

doesn’t work like that 

You don’t want to peak in Week 4.  Ask the 2021 Buffalo Bills

[Aussie Joe]

1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

My point is winning games is all that matters. All those times we "almost" won got us diddly-squat. Now maybe the Saints almost won today. Good for them. They still lost and we won.

And my point is that you can win games now but still voice concerns over things like the tackling and play calling , because expectations are higher due to  Josh Allen being your QB and not Tyrod Taylor like it was 10 years ago

 

 

 

[PromoTheRobot]

8 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

And my point is that you can win games now but still voice concerns over things like the tackling and play calling , because expectations are higher due to  Josh Allen being your QB and not Tyrod Taylor like it was 10 years ago

 

 

 

 

We still complained about those same things when Tyrod was QB, and Losman, and Fitz....   Same as it ever was.

[Aussie Joe]

Just now, PromoTheRobot said:

 

We still complained about those same things when Tyrod was QB, and Losman, and Fitz....   Same as it ever was.

yeah … we did … 

 

And the Chiefs fans wanted Spags and Reid fired two weeks ago…. It’s what fans do…

[Green Lightning]

15 minutes ago, balln said:

Yup D is shaping up to be a bottom 1/3rd unit 

Agree. We  basically play a prevent defense, continually 12 yards off the receivers, we give up easy underneath yardage because our DBs are too slow and the pass rush seldom gets home. The D is based on making other teams drive the field and hope they make a mistake. And it works, if the O puts up 30+ points a game. Issue is, great teams with great QBs that we meet in the playoffs will chew up that D. This Defense makes every game, regardless of the quality of the opponent, a white knuckle game in the 4th quarter. 

 

[May Day 10]

Basically what I expected.  

 

Best part was Jordan Phillips firing up the crowd for 5 minutes then taking out our best defensive player.

[Pecos Bills]

1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:

Sorry our opponents are a combined 1-13.  

0-4 against the Bills is all that matters right now.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

For those complaining about the D, take a look at the drive summaries. Outside of that first TD drive (which was terrible), the D actually held its own. They gave up a long 11-play 65-yard TD drive in the 3rd quarter, but that was basically a bunch of 4 and 5-yard plays by the saints. That’s the sort of drive the Bills D usually will take, and hope the opponent makes a mistake.

 

Otherwise, they pretty much got off the field. The FGs given up were long and due to terrible field position. 
 

They can be better in many ways. But it wasn’t terrible.