James Cook vs Alvin Kamara

[Special K]

I've always felt that the RB that Cook most resembles in terms of playing style is Alvin Kamara.

 

Obviously, Kamara is bigger than Cook, but they both are a danger to take it to the house either by running it, or catching the ball out of the backfield.

 

I remember reading an article a couple of years ago stating that Cook does model his game after Kamara, so it should be exciting to see how these two guys measure up against each other tomorrow.

 

Quite possibly, this might be the only interesting thing happening in this game.😁

[Ray Stonada]

Feel like Cook is now the better back, Kamara maybe lost half a step.

 

Hoping they will start to use Cook more as a weapon catching more passes out of the backfield, too.

[Andrew Son]

1 minute ago, Ray Stonada said:

Feel like Cook is now the better back, Kamara maybe lost half a step.

 

Hoping they will start to use Cook more as a weapon catching more passes out of the backfield, too.

I like keeping the mileage down on Cook.

 

The perfect scenario would be if Davis developed into the Montgomery to Cook's Gibbs.  But it doesn't appear that Davis is emerging.  

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

10 minutes ago, Special K said:

I've always felt that the RB that Cook most resembles in terms of playing style is Alvin Kamara.

 

Obviously, Kamara is bigger than Cook, but they both are a danger to take it to the house either by running it, or catching the ball out of the backfield.

 

I remember reading an article a couple of years ago stating that Cook does model his game after Kamara, so it should be exciting to see how these two guys measure up against each other tomorrow.

 

Quite possibly, this might be the only interesting thing happening in this game.😁

it’s been a while since I have thought much about kamara, as he was injured last year and sort of faded in fantasy. 
 

But looking at his career stats, I was stunned to see how much of his game is as a receiver.  Not nearly as many rushing yards, but the guy was catching 80 passes per year for several years! The only RB I can think of that had a stretch like that was Marshall Faulk in his Rams years.

[NewEra]

21 minutes ago, Andrew Son said:

I like keeping the mileage down on Cook.

 

The perfect scenario would be if Davis developed into the Montgomery to Cook's Gibbs.  But it doesn't appear that Davis is emerging.  

And he’s not nearly as tough a run as Montgomery.  Never thought he resembled a power back and now he’s even lighter

[Buffalo716]

Completely different styles of runners and backs 

 

Kamara has never had a thousand yard rushing season.. more of a back who has 800 receiving 800 rushing in prime... He's a fluid runner, supreme balance control ..  never looks like he's running as fast as he can

 

James Cook is like a poor man's Chris Johnson.. like not 4.2 speed but the same type of explosiveness and vision and getting better at finishing 

19 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

it’s been a while since I have thought much about kamara, as he was injured last year and sort of faded in fantasy. 
 

But looking at his career stats, I was stunned to see how much of his game is as a receiver.  Not nearly as many rushing yards, but the guy was catching 80 passes per year for several years! The only RB I can think of that had a stretch like that was Marshall Faulk in his Rams years.

Yeah him and James Cook are completely different styles 

 

He's a 800 yd Rushing and 500 yd receiving guy with supreme balance control and ability to shrug off contact .. patient

 

James Cook is like a slower version of Chris Johnson, super explosive very good vision and hits the hole hard and fast

Edited 19 hours ago by Buffalo716

[Don Otreply]

Cook in four rounds, TKO

[billsbackto81]

16 minutes ago, NewEra said:

And he’s not nearly as tough a run as Montgomery.  Never thought he resembled a power back and now he’s even 

Cook has really impressed me with physical running between the tackles this past year. His ball security has also been immensely improved. He may not be a big bruiser, but the kid runs very hard. He's making it very difficult for Davis to get on the field. 

[Augie]

49 minutes ago, Ray Stonada said:

Feel like Cook is now the better back, Kamara maybe lost half a step.

 

Hoping they will start to use Cook more as a weapon catching more passes out of the backfield, too.

 

I had to look it up, and was surprised that Kamara is “only” 30. It just feels like he’s been around forever. 

[NewEra]

9 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said:

Cook has really impressed me with physical running between the tackles this past year. His ball security has also been immensely improved. He may not be a big bruiser, but the kid runs very hard. He's making it very difficult for Davis to get on the field. 

No doubt.  He’s become a star.  Just continues to improve in all aspects. His vision, patience, explosion is top tier.  His power was always lacking but is now extremely tough through contact.  Contact balance has come a long way as has his ball security.  He’s been good as a receiver but would like to see him used more in the pass game.  He could be Marshall Faulk 2.0 if his receiving game reaches what we thought he’d it would be when when we drafted him.  
 

He’s dam good and worth the contract 💯 

[Special K]

53 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

it’s been a while since I have thought much about kamara, as he was injured last year and sort of faded in fantasy. 
 

But looking at his career stats, I was stunned to see how much of his game is as a receiver.  Not nearly as many rushing yards, but the guy was catching 80 passes per year for several years! The only RB I can think of that had a stretch like that was Marshall Faulk in his Rams years.

 

In his best years, he had Drew Brees at QB, and Mark Ingram as the Thunder to Kamara's Lightning.

 

As others have said, I would love to see Cook utilized a little more in the passing game.

[Dr.Sack]

I see some similarities but Kamara is the more polished all-purpose RB. His receiving prowess stands out.

 

Career games: Kamara 118 Cook 52

1,000 yards rushing: Kamara 0 Cook 2

100yd rush games: Kamara 11 Cook 9

Rush TDs: Kamara 61 Cook 24

Receving TDs: Kamara 25 Cook 7

Avg Rush GM: Kamara 59 Cook 56.2 

Avg Rec GM: Kamara 40.8 Cook 18.3 

Avg Total Yds GM: 99.8 to 74.5

Edited 18 hours ago by Dr.Sack

[RichRiderBills]

My take is Kamara receiving production is not really anything you can compare with Cook. Perhaps cook would be capable of this in some other offense or with a different focus, but it's just night and day. 

 

I've never thought they were super similar players. 

 

[folz]

Cook kind of reminds me more of Leveon Bell in his prime. Bell was a bit bigger and Cook is a bit faster, but, the way Cook is patient finding the holes, follows and works with his blockers, and then the explosiveness when hitting the hole all kind of remind me of Bell.

 

Last two years:

Kamara: 2,653 yards from scrimmage and 14 TDs; 4.05 yds/C, 7.1 yds/rec (27 games total)

Cook: 2,834 yards from scrimmage and 24 TDs; 4.80 yds/C, 9.1 yds/rec (33 games total)

 

Should be a good match-up (of the RBs), though obviously Cook has the way better overall team.

Kamara has averaged 1,442 yards from scrimmage per season over the last 8 years, with 10.4 TDs per year. Just FYI.

(He missed 17 games during that span---8 years).

 

I know it probably won't happen because we have run the ball a ton these first 3 games and I'm sure there will be games where we end up passing much more or the backup RBs get more touches than they have, and I know it is only 3 games, but currently Cook is on pace for 2,000 yards from scrimmage and 22 TDs this year (on pace for 1,609 rushing yards and 402 receiving yards). Like I said, he probably won't reach that, but I was a bit surprised that he was on pace for 1,600 rushing yards and 22 total TDs currently. Last year, that would have put him third in rushing (behind only Barkley and Henry) and first in TDs.

 

Glad we paid the man his money.

[finn]

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

And he’s not nearly as tough a run as Montgomery.  Never thought he resembled a power back and now he’s even lighter

Not a power back anymore, not particularly elusive or creative. Remind me of his strengths. I recall thinking he ran with a lot of heart and, yes, power. Are we sure that's gone? He hasn't had many carries this year. 

[NewEra]

43 minutes ago, finn said:

Not a power back anymore, not particularly elusive or creative. Remind me of his strengths. I recall thinking he ran with a lot of heart and, yes, power. Are we sure that's gone? He hasn't had many carries this year. 

Montgomery is a smart and tough runner that maximizes his carries by always going forward.   He has some traits of a power back.  Good hands and blocker.  Many comped him to Fred Jackson coming out of college.  

[Kwai San]

3 hours ago, Dr.Sack said:

I see some similarities but Kamara is the more polished all-purpose RB. His receiving prowess stands out.

 

Career games: Kamara 118 Cook 52

1,000 yards rushing: Kamara 0 Cook 2

100yd rush games: Kamara 11 Cook 9

Rush TDs: Kamara 61 Cook 24

Receving TDs: Kamara 25 Cook 7

Avg Rush GM: Kamara 59 Cook 56.2 

Avg Rec GM: Kamara 40.8 Cook 18.3 

Avg Total Yds GM: 99.8 to 74.5

I am sure it has been said but I look at these numbers and the fact that Cook has what he has at 1/2 the games......I am thinking - barring injury - Cook will surpass Kamara in even more categories as he gets closer in # of games played

[NoSaint]

28 minutes ago, Kwai San said:

I am sure it has been said but I look at these numbers and the fact that Cook has what he has at 1/2 the games......I am thinking - barring injury - Cook will surpass Kamara in even more categories as he gets closer in # of games played

yes and no? Kamara is just getting A LOT more of his touches as screens and swing passes instead of handoffs. 

[Big Blitz]

As rushing style goes I’ve said this before 

 

James Cook is like CJ2K. 
 

And he’s quickly closing the gap as far as production - at least in terms of efficiency.  

[Thrivefourfive]

Kamara is a big guy for those that aren’t familiar. And sometimes he plays small. He skips out of bound which is fine, but I wouldn’t say he fights for yards in a scuffle. Cook fights. Kamara usually takes first contact and then jumps/drives forward. I swear sometimes he’ll try to go down and actually gets bounced back on his feet by an hard hitting defender, and he gains a second burst on those runs. He’s a sure handed receiver, and is super skilled at popping open in traffic at the line to catch something. He’s a nice decisive one cut route runner. But sometimes he’ll run off into the flat when it seems like he needed to keep himself in to pass block. His prime is far superior to anything Cooks has put on tape for a season. YET!! I Hope Jimbo gets the best of him tomorrow. Defense..??!!! Looking at ya.