Vrabel Not Happy With Injury Leak

[H2o]

Apparently Ja'Lynn Polk has a shoulder injury, and someone let it get out that he will be out for the season. Vrabel, of course, is none too pleased. Made me think of the days before Beane and McDermott when everything about our organization was pretty much public knowledge. 

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/mike-vrabel-wants-to-find-rats-leaking-injury-info

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After last night’s preseason matchup with the Giants, Vrabel was asked if he could add anything to the report.

 

“No,” Vrabel said, via transcript from the team. “Other than I’d like to find out where some of these come from. Some of these rats around here. We’ll figure that out.”

 

 

[Low Positive]

Just now, H2o said:

Apparently Ja'Lynn Polk has a shoulder injury, and someone let it get out that he will be out for the season. Vrabel, of course, is none too pleased. Made me think of the days before Beane and McDermott when everything about our organization was pretty much public knowledge. 

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/mike-vrabel-wants-to-find-rats-leaking-injury-info

 

Injuries are supposed to be public knowledge in the NFL. The news here is that Vrabel thinks he can game that system. I wonder who he learned that from?

[Lost]

4 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

Injuries are supposed to be public knowledge in the NFL. The news here is that Vrabel thinks he can game that system. I wonder who he learned that from?

 

Well it seems Josh Allen played most of last season with a fractured hand that was never fully disclosed.   He was on the injury reports but the team never disclosed the severity of it.   Guessing all teams do it to some extent, at least with star players.   

[RiotAct]

Someone’s gettin’ clobbered!

[Carmel Corn]

The “Cheaters - Next Generation”. Coming soon

[jcamm1966]

[MJS]

28 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

Injuries are supposed to be public knowledge in the NFL. The news here is that Vrabel thinks he can game that system. I wonder who he learned that from?

Injuries are not public knowledge. Teams are required to report very specific things at very specific times, and it can be extremely vague. They do not have to give any details to anyone.

23 minutes ago, Lost said:

Well it seems Josh Allen played most of last season with a fractured hand that was never fully disclosed.   He was on the injury reports but the team never disclosed the severity of it. Guessing all teams do it to some extent, at least with star players.   

That's all teams are required to do. They have to report whether or not a player was out, limited, or a full participant in practice and they have to get an injury designation (questionable, doubtful, out) for game days. And the reasons can be extremely vague: "Josh Allen, limited, hand". No details are required.

[DrDawkinstein]

38 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

Injuries are supposed to be public knowledge in the NFL. The news here is that Vrabel thinks he can game that system. I wonder who he learned that from?

 

HIPAA says different. I believe all that is required is if guys are missing practice.

[BuffaloBillyG]

8 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

HIPAA says different. I believe all that is required is if guys are missing practice.

HIPAA doesn't apply to NFL players as they sign waivers along with their contract as per the CBA.

[Captain Hindsight]

1 hour ago, Lost said:

 

Well it seems Josh Allen played most of last season with a fractured hand that was never fully disclosed.   He was on the injury reports but the team never disclosed the severity of it.   Guessing all teams do it to some extent, at least with star players.   

They don’t need to declare the severity of it. He had a hand injury and practiced fully each week

[bigduke6]

if anybody thinks Vrabel wont push the grey areas of the NFL rules or outright ignore them youre naive.  hes one of those guys who will do anything to win,  right or wrong.  total war types.  him being mad about this is just him being upset that he couldnt hide it until it benefited him in some way shape or form.

[SoTier]

32 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

HIPAA doesn't apply to NFL players as they sign waivers along with their contract as per the CBA.

 

I don't believe that the CBA requires that health/injury information be made "public knowledge".  The CBA may require that players sign waivers and give their teams their medical information, but that doesn't give teams the right to release that information to the public without the individual player's consent.  I think that Vrabel has a right to be unhappy with someone telling the press the severity of the injury.

Edited 49 minutes ago by SoTier

[Matt_In_NH]

1 hour ago, Lost said:

 

Well it seems Josh Allen played most of last season with a fractured hand that was never fully disclosed.   He was on the injury reports but the team never disclosed the severity of it.   Guessing all teams do it to some extent, at least with star players.   

It was so obvious his hand was broke.  If you watched the play and then saw the mitt he wore for 8 weeks. 

[Pete]

1 minute ago, Matt_In_NH said:

It was so obvious his hand was broke.  If you watched the play and then saw the mitt he wore for 8 weeks. 

not to mention he was handing off with only his right hand

[NewEra]

They have too many WR3-4 types.  Polks shoulder is the likely scapegoat to keep them from cutting him

[Goin Breakdown]

Isn't the patriot way to say that everyone is injured? 

[BillsShredder83]

5 minutes ago, bigduke6 said:

if anybody thinks Vrabel wont push the grey areas of the NFL rules or outright ignore them youre naive.  hes one of those guys who will do anything to win,  right or wrong.  total war types.  him being mad about this is just him being upset that he couldnt hide it until it benefited him in some way shape or form.

In fairness, as a fan I would prefer this mentality.  Its a competitive league.  Im not saying full on Bounty Program or Spygate, but if there are grey areas to get any type of advantage in..... yes, game the system.

[Malazan]

1 hour ago, H2o said:

Apparently Ja'Lynn Polk has a shoulder injury, and someone let it get out that he will be out for the season. Vrabel, of course, is none too pleased. Made me think of the days before Beane and McDermott when everything about our organization was pretty much public knowledge. 

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/mike-vrabel-wants-to-find-rats-leaking-injury-info

 

 

lol.. remember when Aaron Rodgers was gonna hunt down the Jets leakers. Always a hilarious answer.

[DrDawkinstein]

41 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

HIPAA doesn't apply to NFL players as they sign waivers along with their contract as per the CBA.

 

Ah, thank you, good info. Doesnt change the second part tho. Teams only need to report if guys are missing practice time.

 

If they had to report every injury that players were playing through, every injury report from every team would be 10 pages long.

[chris heff]

If what ever is going on here is bad for the Patriots, it makes me happy.