Jukester Posted Tuesday at 04:00 PM Posted Tuesday at 04:00 PM On 7/28/2025 at 5:01 AM, Kirby Jackson said: Is there anyone, that goes to games, that’s been to a NFL game at an indoor stadium in the last 20 years (not talking about those old domes like the Metro Dome or King Dome), that prefers a stadium outside?!? I sure as hell don’t. I’ve been to a bunch of indoor stadiums to see the Bills play: Detroit, Houston, New Orleans, Dallas, Atlanta and LA and much prefer it (although LA is actually open air with a roof and it was really hot). Our new stadium is going to be beautiful and I’m really excited for it. With that being said, an indoor stadium would have been WAY better. It’s infinitely more comfortable. Yes me. I’ve been to games in Detroit, Indi, and here in St Louis when the Rams were still here and much prefer outdoor. Indoor games just seem very sterile and not the same atmosphere as open air. Outdoor all the way for me. I know it’s a new age, but I grew up going to games at the current stadium and was there for the Baltimore playoff game earlier this year - there’s nothing like it. Planning to make a trip to the new stadium in the inaugural season for sure. 1 Quote
SoCal Deek Posted Tuesday at 07:38 PM Posted Tuesday at 07:38 PM 3 hours ago, Jukester said: Yes me. I’ve been to games in Detroit, Indi, and here in St Louis when the Rams were still here and much prefer outdoor. Indoor games just seem very sterile and not the same atmosphere as open air. Outdoor all the way for me. I know it’s a new age, but I grew up going to games at the current stadium and was there for the Baltimore playoff game earlier this year - there’s nothing like it. Planning to make a trip to the new stadium in the inaugural season for sure. I agree. I’ve been to many of the current indoor NFL stadiums but there’s something about attending games there never seems quite ‘real’ to me. 1 1 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted Tuesday at 08:35 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:35 PM 4 hours ago, Jukester said: Yes me. I’ve been to games in Detroit, Indi, and here in St Louis when the Rams were still here and much prefer outdoor. Indoor games just seem very sterile and not the same atmosphere as open air. Outdoor all the way for me. I know it’s a new age, but I grew up going to games at the current stadium and was there for the Baltimore playoff game earlier this year - there’s nothing like it. Planning to make a trip to the new stadium in the inaugural season for sure. Fair. I’m talking about the people financing the stadium though. It’s an interesting experience for sure. I’d imagine most people are willing to do it once or twice a year. The 8+ hours a day for 10+ times a year, in freezing OP, is the crowd I’m asking. “Who, that will be in the elements 10 times a year, prefers that to inside?” I can think of 10 or so games over the last 5 years where the weather was so bad, I wouldn’t walk to the curb to throw my garbage but stood/sat out there for 8+ hours for a Bills game. 1 Quote
djp14150 Posted Tuesday at 09:47 PM Posted Tuesday at 09:47 PM 8 hours ago, May Day 10 said: This is the truth. An indoor facility in Philly would have huge potential for semi-regular large-scale events. Nobody else on the eastern seaboard would offer a venue of that size. Philly is a major city. They would get many premium events. Buffalo, if they built an indoor stadium would not be getting many premium events that their outdoor stadium couldn't host. The nearby/regional competition for these events are/will be much more attractive cities like Toronto, Detroit, Chicago, Indy, Cleveland, Nashville, and even Minnesota. We aren't an attractive market to host NCAA football games. No chance for a super bowl. I am sure they studied what events they could/would attract and it didnt come close to justifying the additional costs (roof itself, HVAC, etc). These cities aren't bigger and better because of their indoor stadiums. They are bigger and better because they have been attractive for major commerce, tech, etc. People live and sustain life in a vibrant downtown setting. Buffalo just can't get going. Buffalo does not the hotel capacity for a Super Bowl. buffalo has the disadvantage of (1) being close to the border, and (2) having a close market if you look at the cities you list major cities sre more than 2 hrs away from thst city. If the population of Rochester and across the border was part of buffalo metro area it would be a bigger city and could host a SB Quote
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted Tuesday at 09:50 PM Posted Tuesday at 09:50 PM Billionaires love taxpayer handouts as much or more than anyone 1 Quote
Steve Billieve Posted Wednesday at 04:54 AM Posted Wednesday at 04:54 AM 17 hours ago, BillsPride12 said: New PSL's? Higher ticket costs? New advertising and sponsorship deals? I don't know all the intricate details on how it works but you can't tell me they are looking to build a new stadium out of necessity I have no doubt there is some financial motivation behind it The Bills generate about 80 million in ticket revenue, less expenses. I just don't understand how that pays for itself in a meaningful way by replacing the stadium every 20 years. I understand it's an older stadium, but the build price of a new stadium is a very significant portion of total ticket sales over the life of the stadium. I don't think it's crazy to think that some other motives are going on. As far as fu money goes I can't think of a better price than an NFL franchise, it's not crazy to think these guys care about how nice and modern their owners box is, or that they want to build and design their own stadium. Quote
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