Max Hairston injury

[Maynard]

Did he stretch this out already?

[Jon in Pasadena]

On 6/13/2025 at 12:54 PM, WotAGuy said:

Maybe back in the olden days, but nowadays with modern pharmaceuticals…..you’d be surprised. These guys juicing probably have 4 testicles. 

 

Yeah but they're all really tiny. 

[Mango]

19 hours ago, Billl said:

I’ve talked to a back surgeon in a social setting who said that he would never have back surgery.  He said there are just too many ways that it can go horribly wrong for no apparent reason.

 

Can I ask where and what procedure?

 

I just had a friend have UB Neuro tell them that double cervical disc replacements arent approved by the FDA which is entirely false. There are three FDA approved disc manufacturers.

 

The one thing I would tell anybody having spinal surgery is to go to a major spine center to have it done. The education and skill gap between UB Neuro and say NYP/Weill Cornell mught as well be the tmgrand canyon.

[Don Otreply]

On 6/20/2025 at 10:46 AM, Billl said:

I’ve talked to a back surgeon in a social setting who said that he would never have back surgery.  He said there are just too many ways that it can go horribly wrong for no apparent reason.

This ^^^
 

 My doctor told me that the biggest cause of chronic back pain was back surgery, I declined surgery, at 36 years old, and did the longer slower, recovery from a herniated disk, I’m 66 years old now, and it was the correct choice, 

[3rdand12]

My most recent specialist and others , said the nerve pathway in the spinal cord are still somewhat of a mystery . While the vertebrae and discs are easy to see and to understand

Such as bone spurs in the lower thoracic might cause pain in in the legs or feet. Or numbing in the elbow lol.

 Was told avoid surgery as long as you can manage and keep moving.

I'm 64 and messed my back about 20 years ago. Have all the issues you can list

But I can manage still with some meds and yoga stuffs

I skipped out referrals back then and glad I did.

Bills have great folks to get him to his best self

Go Maxwell Hairston !

 

[bills742]

 

 

[zevo]

2 minutes ago, bills742 said:

 

 

woof. that sucks

[Slippery Rubber Mats]

What a kick in the nuts to have a weakness, spend a big asset to shore it up, and have it immediately blow up in your face leaving you exactly where you started.

[Fan in Chicago]

On 6/20/2025 at 9:46 AM, Billl said:

I’ve talked to a back surgeon in a social setting who said that he would never have back surgery.  He said there are just too many ways that it can go horribly wrong for no apparent reason.

Is he now unemployed?

[Mikie2times]

On 6/13/2025 at 2:55 PM, Slippery Rubber Mats said:

 

Where is the thigh doctor when we need him

 

Somebody say foot doctor?

 

[dave mcbride]

6 minutes ago, zevo said:

woof. that sucks

It's only four games, and he's not going to playing the first couple anyway given the injury recovery and missed practice. It opens a roster spot for four weeks, which is a (small) silver lining. 

[Augie]

2 minutes ago, Slippery Rubber Mats said:

What a kick in the nuts to have a weakness, spend a big asset to shore it up, and have it immediately blow up in your face leaving you exactly where you started.

 

It’s all McD’s fault. Everything good comes from Josh, but McD brings us down. I’ve read that here. 

 

Stuff happens…..but it sure seems to happen to our DB’s more than their fair share. We haven’t played a game that counts yet, and we are without our starting safeties and CB #2. I’d rather be healthy for the playoffs than preseason, but this is an inauspicious start. 

[uticaclub]

It’s not like we are used to getting production out of top picks anyway. Hopefully Tre can hold his own until Max gets healthy

Edited Tuesday at 02:03 PM by uticaclub

[HamptonBillsfan]

I never liked this 1st round pick. The guy is not good in run support and is not a great tackler in college. Can you imagine him tackling pro TEs one on one. He’s slight and injury prone. Other than that he’s terrific.

[MasterStrategist]

15 minutes ago, bills742 said:

 

 

This is just common sense, I said when his timeline came out.

 

It all depends when hes ready to practice and back to full health.

 

He is missing all of preseason, and as a rookie, thats more crucial than a vet like Shakir.

 

See where Hairston is at in 2 weeks and health of CB room.  Just Coachs way of saying its too early, and likely going to be a tight window.

 

The new IR rule as of 2024, allows a team to place up to 2 players on IR designated to return, on cut down day.  So in essence, we don't have to play the silly game of cutting a guy like Reid Ferguson to just sign him back a day later.

 

So with this flexibility, lots of options/decisions which will hinge on:

1. How does Max look in 2 weeks, is he ready to resume full practice/get reps?

 

2.  Other injuries to consider.  Do we have other guys go down that we need to use for the "2 player IR" scenario.

 

[Mat68]

12 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

This is just common sense, I said when his timeline came out.

 

It all depends when hes ready to practice and back to full health.

 

He is missing all of preseason, and as a rookie, thats more crucial than a vet like Shakir.

 

See where Hairston is at in 2 weeks and health of CB room.  Just Coachs way of saying its too early, and likely going to be a tight window.

 

The new IR rule as of 2024, allows a team to place up to 2 players on IR designated to return, on cut down day.  So in essence, we don't have to play the silly game of cutting a guy like Reid Ferguson to just sign him back a day later.

 

So with this flexibility, lots of options/decisions which will hinge on:

1. How does Max look in 2 weeks, is he ready to resume full practice/get reps?

 

2.  Other injuries to consider.  Do we have other guys go down that we need to use for the "2 player IR" scenario.

 

IR return comes down to how much a ramp up time he will require.  If he is close to practicing at roster cut down I think he avoids it.  If still a week or 2 away you IR designate return. Keep an extra Db on the 53.

Edited Tuesday at 01:57 PM by Mat68

[atlbillsfan1975]

If he needs to start on IR it’s not great and it could help with the “rookie wall” later in the year. 

[Allen2Moulds]

On 6/21/2025 at 6:33 AM, Mango said:

 

Can I ask where and what procedure?

 

I just had a friend have UB Neuro tell them that double cervical disc replacements arent approved by the FDA which is entirely false. There are three FDA approved disc manufacturers.

 

The one thing I would tell anybody having spinal surgery is to go to a major spine center to have it done. The education and skill gap between UB Neuro and say NYP/Weill Cornell mught as well be the tmgrand canyon.

I've heard the same thing from a well respected surgeon. He basically says that the human spine has a great ability to adapt. For example, disc herniations with nerve impingement, hurt like he'll, and are often times disabling when they first surface. With time, symptoms become A-symptomatic (pain free).

He stressed exercise, to promote circulation. Circulation is the key, to help aid the injured areas.

Once you go under the knife, you'll be back for follow up surgeries after so many years. It becomes a cycle.

[BarleyNY]

On 6/19/2025 at 2:27 PM, Buffalo Junction said:

Not with the same level athletes, but kind of. I’ve spent two multi-month stints in ICU from car accidents, and spent 15 years doing judo around that and a blue collar job. I also played football until the first car crash. I have pins, plates, and screws in several limbs/joints along with having two vertebrae fused. I recovered well for a long time. However, around 32 the ability to recover from injuries was just too much, and I switched everything up…. I’m a tai chi in the park guy now. The injuries add up over time like dividends, and we all have a point where our ability to recover from repetitive trauma declines. Rasul likely hit that point.

 

This season of “Quarterbacks” illustrated this point with Kirk Cousins. He got several injuries - ankle, throwing elbow and throwing shoulder. None were bad enough that he could not play, but they didn’t heal enough during the season for him to be able to play at an effective level. He was confused about what was happening and didn’t really process it until after the season. 

 

For players it seems not so much to be “I’m old and can’t play anymore,” as it is that they’re fine at the start of the season and can still play up to their standards. Then after getting some dings that they are used to playing through, they just can’t perform at a good enough level any more. Eventually they realize that that is where they are in their careers. It also explains why older vets who have transitioned to being role players or back ups can still look very good in limited action. 

[eball]

1 hour ago, dave mcbride said:

It's only four games, and he's not going to playing the first couple anyway given the injury recovery and missed practice. It opens a roster spot for four weeks, which is a (small) silver lining. 

 

I agree.  Tre is looking good and would have probably won the job to begin the season anyway.  Really, the biggest negative is just Max's lack of practice reps.