Simon Posted May 1 Posted May 1 20 hours ago, Gregg said: https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/john-elway-golf-cart-accident-crash-former-agent/568ae00c6c8cc8e431be3e23 Apparently its serious. Life threating injuries to the passenger. Elway was driving. His friend is on life support. Did somebody pull the trick where they loosen the cart strap so it falls off the back? 1 Quote
Dukestreetking Posted May 1 Posted May 1 24 minutes ago, ddaryl said: Look back in our own life at those moments of injury, near injury, near death, they happened so fast and there where things you could of done differently in hindsight, but didn't. Continuing the theme: I survived three tours in IZ w a very close friend, call sign Moses. Two days home after his last deployment: 4th of July on the Potomac, he slipped on a boat, hit his head and fell into the river. That was that. Incredibly sad. Hug your kids and friends, boys. 1 6 1 2 Quote
Buffalo ill Posted May 1 Posted May 1 As a kid I remember riding atvs at the age of 12 and younger, ripping around the woods and small logging communities. More talented kids were on dirt bikes being even wilder. Granted this was in the 80s/90s. I find it odd so many folks in this thread are jumping on the "golf carts are dangerous" bandwagon. Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted May 1 Posted May 1 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Buffalo ill said: As a kid I remember riding atvs at the age of 12 and younger, ripping around the woods and small logging communities. More talented kids were on dirt bikes being even wilder. Granted this was in the 80s/90s. I find it odd so many folks in this thread are jumping on the "golf carts are dangerous" bandwagon. The reasons golf carts are dangerous: 1) They don't seem dangerous... they seem easy to drive so people underestimate the danger... they let their guard down. 2) They're often associated with alcohol use. 3) They're often being operated by younger people who are not experienced drivers. 4) Because they're 4 wheel vehicles they seem stable but they're a bit top heavy and unstable on hills and slopes. 5) Unless they have good tires, they easily break traction on damp surfaces Edited May 1 by Sierra Foothills 1 Quote
thenorthremembers Posted May 1 Posted May 1 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Buffalo ill said: As a kid I remember riding atvs at the age of 12 and younger, ripping around the woods and small logging communities. More talented kids were on dirt bikes being even wilder. Granted this was in the 80s/90s. I find it odd so many folks in this thread are jumping on the "golf carts are dangerous" bandwagon. I dont understand your logic. The ATVS and Dirt Bikes you were "ripping around" on were still dangerous. Just because you didnt have an accident personally doesnt make them not dangerous. Not everyone gets killed by a shark swimming in the ocean. Should we just assume sharks arent dangerous? 91 people were bit by sharks last year. On average there are 9,000 golf cart related injuries per year. Golf carts can go up to 20mph. If you rip it around a corner its most likely going to tip and spill you out to the ground. If you're lucky the 500-1000lbs they weigh wont fall on top of you. The lesson here is A. Dont be an idiot when speed and machinery are involved. B. Even if you're careful accidents happen. Obviously you shouldnt let fear dictate your life, but you should also make good decisions based on facts. Edited May 1 by thenorthremembers Quote
machine gun kelly Posted May 1 Posted May 1 I’m so sorry to hear about the loss. I have no idea of alcohol was involved, but it usually is with golfing. With that said, i don’t want to assume anything. Info will come out eventually. Quote
Fleezoid Posted May 1 Posted May 1 18 hours ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: You don't "fall off the back of a cart" if you are riding in a front facing seat, just saying. The victim bears the brunt of this when they chose to ride on the back of a golf cart... very dangerous. I thought about this as well. There's speculation that Elway may have been impaired. What about Sperbeck? If he was intoxicated, more vulnerable to falling out during a turn or abrupt start. Lack of motor skills would also hinder him protecting himself during a fall. Quote
LabattBlue Posted May 1 Posted May 1 Golf carts aren’t dangerous. Morons driving them are dangerous. 1 Quote
JP51 Posted May 1 Posted May 1 2 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: I dont understand your logic. The ATVS and Dirt Bikes you were "ripping around" on were still dangerous. Just because you didnt have an accident personally doesnt make them not dangerous. Not everyone gets killed by a shark swimming in the ocean. Should we just assume sharks arent dangerous? 91 people were bit by sharks last year. On average there are 9,000 golf cart related injuries per year. Golf carts can go up to 20mph. If you rip it around a corner its most likely going to tip and spill you out to the ground. If you're lucky the 500-1000lbs they weigh wont fall on top of you. The lesson here is A. Dont be an idiot when speed and machinery are involved. B. Even if you're careful accidents happen. Obviously you shouldnt let fear dictate your life, but you should also make good decisions based on facts. I kinda agree... cant live life in fear... sh?t happens... but don't encourage sh/t to happen by being dumb... 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted May 1 Posted May 1 4 hours ago, ddaryl said: I hope Elway at least fixed the divot. Quote
That's No Moon Posted May 1 Posted May 1 1 hour ago, LabattBlue said: Golf carts aren’t dangerous. Morons driving them are dangerous. It's like most things, they aren't inherently dangerous, but they are to be respected as something that CAN hurt you. Others have pointed out situations that can hurt you even if you aren't being deliberately reckless. Particularly if it's not a well maintained, or a deliberately modified, example. 1 Quote
Fan boy '92 Posted May 1 Posted May 1 21 hours ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: You don't "fall off the back of a cart" if you are riding in a front facing seat, just saying. The victim bears the brunt of this when they chose to ride on the back of a golf cart... very dangerous. Golf carts should be banned immediately! Quote
EasternOHBillsFan Posted May 1 Posted May 1 5 hours ago, ddaryl said: Exactly... and at a party with a lot of people on it it turns into a tragedy 1 Quote
Spiderweb Posted May 1 Posted May 1 4 hours ago, LabattBlue said: Golf carts aren’t dangerous. Morons driving them are dangerous. Point? Morons are dangerous, but golf carts present their own dangers none the less. Quote
3rdand12 Posted May 1 Posted May 1 10 hours ago, jaab1028 said: Unfortunately 40 years ago I lost a friend the same way,no alcohol was involved it,he lost his grip as he was fooling around and fell back and hit his head on the paved pathway and died.Just a freak accident that ended badly.I know how badly John Elway is suffering,sad I am terribly sorry to hear that. Accidents happen every dang day. RIP Quote
3rdand12 Posted May 1 Posted May 1 7 hours ago, Dukestreetking said: Continuing the theme: I survived three tours in IZ w a very close friend, call sign Moses. Two days home after his last deployment: 4th of July on the Potomac, he slipped on a boat, hit his head and fell into the river. That was that. Incredibly sad. Hug your kids and friends, boys. yea. gone in a blink. Understood Each day is a blessing when you realize how precious life is, how amazing it is to have friends and a loving Family. Hug them indeed.. Ya never know what tomorrow brings. Sorry for your loss 🧡 2 Quote
Mikie2times Posted May 1 Posted May 1 8 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: I dont understand your logic. The ATVS and Dirt Bikes you were "ripping around" on were still dangerous. Just because you didnt have an accident personally doesnt make them not dangerous. Not everyone gets killed by a shark swimming in the ocean. Should we just assume sharks arent dangerous? 91 people were bit by sharks last year. On average there are 9,000 golf cart related injuries per year. Sharks are not “dangerous” if that is the case, flying is dangerous. People die falling when going for a walk. Nearly anything can become dangerous if the sample is big enough and the standard is any serious injury. Having said that sure, golf carts can be pretty dangerous under the wrong conditions. Most things paired with booze and shenanigans have risk which golf carts often have. Quote
BuffaloBill Posted May 2 Posted May 2 12 hours ago, Fan boy '92 said: Mikie2times, you better stay inside brother. In a pile of cotton balls. Quote
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