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On 3/28/2025 at 6:23 PM, T.E. said:

Here's my theory on Diggs. Most of it is simply that he is a selfish and petulant person. That's the majority of what happened. That being said:

 

During the 2022 season, I think it started with the Hamlin caridac arrest game. If you remember, Diggs was trying to rally everyone on the sideline to go back out there. When that was ultimately overruled by other players (likely led by Allen) he probably felt like his input was ignored, and he probably felt like the team "quit."

 

So now he had it in his head that he has no say over Allen, and when they laid an egg against Cincinnati and Allen played poorly, the BS just started snowballing. "I'm the only one who really cares about winning; I'm just as important as Josh" and so on and so forth.

 

Nice narrative, but people on this board who do have some sources say that the 2022 season problems started well before the Hamlin game.  If you search, you can find here.  Things that have been heard are:
-Stef would go after Josh for his perceived mistakes after practices and games to the point where it made the rest of the WR room uncomfortable, and Josh finally had enough and stopped taking it.  At one point during that fall, Josh and Diggs relationship was so bad they were reportedly barely talking to one another. 
-Keep in mind that Josh tore his UCL in the '22 Week 9 Jets game and the initial assessment going around was that he would miss at least as many games as he missed his rookie season (4).  Palmer said after the season that it was a worse tear than 2018 where Josh missed 4 games.  There's a Marino podcast talking about how it impacted the Bills passing game.  Josh was listed as "limited" in a number of practices and there are reports he was limited in throwing (or not throwing) for weeks.
-It was said that Diggs was late for meetings and the team gave him a parking spot by the entrance and other special handling to try to keep him  in line

-Also said that Diggs pulled some stunts that "hurt the team".
 

As far as "Josh played poorly" vs Cinncinnati, please keep in mind that the whole team played poorly - starting with our defense, which looked as though they were on skates.  Specifically, Diggs was targeted 10 times and had 4 receptions for 35 yds.  While some of were off-target, others of them looked to be catchable balls.  There were also balls where it was pretty clear Allen and Diggs weren't on the same page.

 

 

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On 3/28/2025 at 6:20 PM, Steptide said:

Diggs is so confusing 

 

Nah.  I think he's stump-simple.  He's a narcissist with a big ego.  He legit thought he "made" Josh as a QB and that he was right and Josh was wrong on every miscue.

Diggs was going to play with Stroud and put up just as big or bigger numbers, while Josh with a rag-tag receiver corps and a new OC would falter.  That's behind his "You sure?" response to a tweet about Josh not needing Diggs

 

Now that Josh won League MVP and the answer to "You sure?" was unambiguously "Yep" while injured Diggs missed half the season, it's in Digg's self interest to promote his successful years with Josh to say "hey, I played with the guy who was last year's league MVP and put up big numbers year after year, Pick Me!"

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14 hours ago, Redblood said:

I dont expect vrabel to put up with a lot of his antics. I see Diggs on his best behavior this yr. 

 

On the one hand, I agree, Diggs will be trying to show he's a great teammate and a veteran leader.

 

On the other hand, I think Diggs can't help being a problem

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It’s pretty simple to me. Diggs is the master of manipulating teams by posing himself as a “problem child” so that he can move on to his next payday. It allows him to get out of contracts, force trades and add bank. It’s all very calculated. 

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16 hours ago, Redblood said:

I dont expect vrabel to put up with a lot of his antics. I see Diggs on his best behavior this yr. 

 

At age 32 and coming off an ACL tear, he is going to be a shell of himself for most of the year on the field 

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stefon can date whoever he wants. his drama can only be in our favor this time.  NOT OUR PROBLEM yay 🙂

 

I care that he and Hollins are both Patriots. aka competition. I don't like ex bills as competition. It  just feels icky

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Beck Water said:

 

On the one hand, I agree, Diggs will be trying to show he's a great teammate and a veteran leader.

 

On the other hand, I think Diggs can't help being a problem

He's always a saint in the beginning...

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23 minutes ago, Jukester said:

It’s pretty simple to me. Diggs is the master of manipulating teams by posing himself as a “problem child” so that he can move on to his next payday. It allows him to get out of contracts, force trades and add bank. It’s all very calculated. 

 

I think of a master manipulator as somebody with good soft skills. Somebody who leads people places without them knowing. Kinda like McBeane do to Pegula.

 

What Diggs does is more of a temper tantrum. I guess it's still manipulation but more like a toddler than a shrude people manager.

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56 minutes ago, muppy said:

stefon can date whoever he wants. his drama can only be in our favor this time.  NOT OUR PROBLEM yay 🙂

 

I care that he and Hollins are both Patriots. aka competition. I don't like ex bills as competition. It  just feels icky

 

I'd be more worried about Hollins' impact than I would be about Diggs

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1 minute ago, Malazan said:

 

I'd be more worried about Hollins' impact than I would be about Diggs

a pox on them both

 

not a lethal one. Just against us LOL

 

m

j/k

 

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