Beck Water Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 27 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: I realize people are going to complain all year about this because they will refuse to accept what Brady will be doing with the offense. He is going to run the ball more, he is going to use a lot of different receivers, and Josh will go to the open guy. And the open guy will vary within games and from game to game based on the defense. We saw this last year when the offense started to click and when Diggs got less touches. We’ve seen it the first two games. And it’s working. So complain if you want. I like having twilight victories with over 30 points per game. But that’s just me. I don't mind Josh going to the open guy. What I mind is when Josh passes up several open guys to take a very much lower probability throw that's a "kill shot" if he makes it, and kills the drive if he doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 1 minute ago, Beck Water said: I don't mind Josh going to the open guy. What I mind is when Josh passes up several open guys to take a very much lower probability throw that's a "kill shot" if he makes it, and kills the drive if he doesn't. I get that. And I’m sure Brady hits that in film review. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 58 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Hollins is never getting the first down there I went back and looked again, and it's a lower probability than I thought at first. So I can't blame Josh for passing that one I don't agree that it's a "never" though - but I'd agree it's far from a gimme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86poker Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 7 hours ago, zow2 said: The only negative last night is what happened to Samuel, Hollins, Keon and MVS?!? On the replays these guys were not getting separation downfield. And the one deep pass to MVS, the ball landed in the perfect spot right where MVS should have been (not sure why he did a spinorama to miss it). I'm starting to think the talking heads on TV are right about out WRs and maybe the Bills should trade for a Davonte Adams or a legit WR. If Xavier Worthy has a game vs Cincinnati, the gap between him and Keon will continue to widen. If this is your take coming out of this game, I'm sorry but you don't know football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 4 hours ago, zman44 said: Week 1 PFF rankings agree with the lack of separation issue and I didn’t see anything in the limited week 2 reps to dispel this yet. Going to be interested in tracking this all year: So the Bills have poor separation in week 1 just like those other teams with questionable receiver rooms, the 49er's and Rams? Sometimes you need to just step back and look at data and see if it makes any sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 12 hours ago, Beck Water said: You'll have a happier life if you stop looking over the fence into the neighbor's field and performing comparative analysis of his pasture quality. In the two games we played, the Bills have 59 rush attempts (58%) to 42 pass attempts (42%). The reason is, the Dolphins were vulnerable against the run, and Joe Brady seems to live by the mantra "if it's working, we're gonna keep doing it until you stop it". So he kept running. You can see this in the fact that Knox (who can block in-line and downfield) actually had more snap counts than Kincaid (whose blocking is improving, but still mostly limited to being in the right place at the right time and giving a little shove. Look at the snap counts, which are out already. They're interesting. 91% is "I played the whole game" because they pulled the starters after that. Keon Coleman basically didn't come off the field until they pulled the starters at the end. I would love to know what routes he was running because unlike Hollins, who had the second highest snap count among the WR, Keon is not in there to block. He can block, but like any rookie he's learning how it's done in the Big Leagues. Samuel saw 12 snaps in last night's game. MVS saw 4. So I'm not sure where you're seeing "they didn't get separation downfield" because, they were barely on the field, and sometimes when they were, they did; MVS had separation on a dangerous off-platform pass from Allen which he shouldn't have thrown. Great post! RE: Samuel - I think some of it is gameplan specific, but I also think they’re trying to limit his snaps to give his turf toe the best chance to heal fully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 21 minutes ago, Cash said: Great post! RE: Samuel - I think some of it is gameplan specific, but I also think they’re trying to limit his snaps to give his turf toe the best chance to heal fully. Thanks! I will note that Simon expressed that he sees strong blocking out of Keon and believes he has the confidence of the coaches, so maybe Keon is there to block. I think one concern may be limiting what Josh has to do with his left hand somewhat - if he's handing the ball off, there's less chance of Stuff Happening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 17 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Thanks! I will note that Simon expressed that he sees strong blocking out of Keon and believes he has the confidence of the coaches, so maybe Keon is there to block. I think one concern may be limiting what Josh has to do with his left hand somewhat - if he's handing the ball off, there's less chance of Stuff Happening? After Hollins Coleman is our next best blocking reveiver. So even though he is still learning he is already better at it than Shakir, Samuel and MVS and that is contributing to the snap counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 35 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Thanks! I will note that Simon expressed that he sees strong blocking out of Keon and believes he has the confidence of the coaches, so maybe Keon is there to block. I think one concern may be limiting what Josh has to do with his left hand somewhat - if he's handing the ball off, there's less chance of Stuff Happening? His hand definitely limits the ball fakes out of play action/rpo so the run calls are going to be more straightforward until he's healed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted September 24 Author Share Posted September 24 TRIED TO TELL EM. Best overall O in the Allen Era EA$$$YYYYYYY 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 On 9/13/2024 at 3:59 PM, Beck Water said: I don't mind Josh going to the open guy. What I mind is when Josh passes up several open guys to take a very much lower probability throw that's a "kill shot" if he makes it, and kills the drive if he doesn't. Yea that's something that will always be apart of his game Choosing his spots strategically when to take layups and when to go for home runs will continue to improve Josh is the best football player in the world and I stand by it 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 These WRs are decent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted September 24 Author Share Posted September 24 3 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Yea that's something that will always be apart of his game Choosing his spots strategically when to take layups and when to go for home runs will continue to improve Josh is the best football player in the world and I stand by it Orlovsky just summed it up spot on, "I watched every snap in Allen's career, this is the best half I've ever seen" This O is a Swiss army knife on steroids, so unpredictable 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 Just now, JerseyBills said: Orlovsky just summed it up spot on, "I watched every snap in Allen's career, this is the best half I've ever seen" This O is a Swiss army knife on steroids, so unpredictable Diggs who?!? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 (edited) It’s getting very close to “I told you so” territory for a lot of us Edited September 24 by Alphadawg7 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 Get open, catch ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 5 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: It’s getting very close to “I told you so” territory for a lot of us Right. I'm gonna keep doubting this. Cuz... It's working so far! All the hate on this concept we have good WR's. Totally don't buy it. I gotta doubt this. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 Solid bump. Well worth it considering the very self assured dog vomit takes. Allen gonna toss 5 tonight lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 Can’t believe the Chiefs let the Bills get Keon Coleman 😂 1 5 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 I mean before I was curious but I'm pretty sure the team was already top in the league in points per game and they are just piling on. The scary thing is I don't think they are at full power yet. This is just high level execution against an opponent that was not at all prepared. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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