Aussie Joe Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 5 minutes ago, Virgil said: I get cap inflation, but seems like a lot for a guy who wasn't even a starter on the Chiefs and they didn't want back. I get that he started at the end of the season, but that was due to injury He is going to be the starter here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 He went to High School just up the road from me at Winton Woods. I play tennis there all the time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 6 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I'd gladly take either for that $! I was thinking more like 7 for Blackmon or 8-9 for Simmons They aren't that close. Blackmon given his injury history is probably a 3.5-4m base with incentives. Simmons will probably be around 10m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 2 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: He is going to be the starter here Why fans can't grasp he and Rapp are the Starters is beyond me. They didn't give Rapp a 3 year deal to have him be a back up. If so,then why not the Beane special a 1 year deal 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 3 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Why fans can't grasp he and Rapp are the Starters is beyond me. They didn't give Rapp a 3 year deal to have him be a back up. If so,then why not the Beane special a 1 year deal I’d say they like him as a “high floor” player. Meaning they believe he could at least start at multiple positions if need be. Ideally he’s the 3rd safety and will see the field during certain situations Yes, he may end up starting if we don’t add anyone else. That’s fine. He made some huge plays late in the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finn Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 15 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: The last couple teams he’s played on had safety injuries. He’s been a 3rd safety mostly. Chiefs have their starting safeties in Reid and Cook. The Bills offer a better opportunity to start. I wonder if Beane promised him that start. If they sign Blackmon or Simmons, that promise would be pretty disingenuous, less so if they draft a safety in the second round. He sounds like an excellent depth player but a gamble as a starter. My ideal scenario (given the cap): They sign Blackmon after June 1 and draft a safety in the fifth round and a corner in the fourth or fifth. Go into the season with Douglas and Bedford backed up by Elam, a rookie, and a free agent, with Blackmon and Rapp at safety backed up by Edwards, and a rookie. Jackson backed up by Lewis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 14 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I’d say they like him as a “high floor” player. Meaning they believe he could at least start at multiple positions if need be. Ideally he’s the 3rd safety and will see the field during certain situations Yes, he may end up starting if we don’t add anyone else. That’s fine. He made some huge plays late in the season His value is his versatility. He's not great at any specific role, but you can use him anywhere. He can play deep safety, box, and even slot corner without being a liability. IMO, he's the best overall Safety on the roster. Still think Beane adds a definitive starter, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Just now, Billl said: His value is his versatility. He's not great at any specific role, but you can use him anywhere. He can play deep safety, box, and even slot corner without being a liability. IMO, he's the best overall Safety on the roster. Still think Beane adds a definitive starter, though. I was talking about Rapp, but I agree Edwards is the best Safety on the Bills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 (edited) 6 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Why fans can't grasp he and Rapp are the Starters is beyond me. They didn't give Rapp a 3 year deal to have him be a back up. If so,then why not the Beane special a 1 year deal Contracts don't decide who starts; and even if they did its still a long way to next season. A lot can happen between now and then. Edited March 22 by Turk71 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 On 3/20/2024 at 3:30 PM, GunnerBill said: Great. Now we have three backup safeties. When do we get a starter? McDermott makes every safety legit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 2 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: McDermott makes every safety legit He didn't make Damar Hamlin and Jaquan Johnson legit. He has had two great safeties here his entire time. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: He didn't make Damar Hamlin and Jaquan Johnson legit. He has had two great safeties here his entire time. Yeah the DB whisperer nonsense has gotten a bit outta hand. He's had some good players here, who have mostly been shredded in the playoffs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 14 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I’d say they like him as a “high floor” player. Meaning they believe he could at least start at multiple positions if need be. Ideally he’s the 3rd safety and will see the field during certain situations Yes, he may end up starting if we don’t add anyone else. That’s fine. He made some huge plays late in the season On an interesting side note, Micah Hyde was in town a few days before FA started. Some other Bills have their houses on the market and/or are packing them up. (e.g., Dorsey's hit yesterday, somebody picked up the trash can that's been laying around for weeks at Sherfield's house and is moving him.) But nothing yet from Hyde. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkirk Donski Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 14 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Why fans can't grasp he and Rapp are the Starters is beyond me. They didn't give Rapp a 3 year deal to have him be a back up. If so,then why not the Beane special a 1 year deal Thank you. We have two starting superbowl safeties who have played very well in big games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 49 minutes ago, Dunkirk Donski said: Thank you. We have two starting superbowl safeties who have played very well in big games. One Superbowl starting safety. Edwards did start the Superbowl last year, but wasn't good in it. He didn't start the Superbowl when he was with Tampa, thought he played in some dime packages. Rapp did not start the Superbowl for the Rams, he was coming back from a concussion and played less than half the defensive snaps. My problem with them is they are both replacement level starters. I think Edwards is a bit better than Rapp but I wouldn't mind either so much if they were playing with a better player. But two players of that level together is a concern for me. It's like having Vlad Ducasse and Jordan Mills together on the right hand side of your offensive line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 18 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: He is going to be the starter here Very likely, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkirk Donski Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 15 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: One Superbowl starting safety. Edwards did start the Superbowl last year, but wasn't good in it. He didn't start the Superbowl when he was with Tampa, thought he played in some dime packages. Rapp did not start the Superbowl for the Rams, he was coming back from a concussion and played less than half the defensive snaps. My problem with them is they are both replacement level starters. I think Edwards is a bit better than Rapp but I wouldn't mind either so much if they were playing with a better player. But two players of that level together is a concern for me. It's like having Vlad Ducasse and Jordan Mills together on the right hand side of your offensive line. Thank you for splitting hairs. I forgot about Rapp's concussion. As I've said elsewhere, Rapp did not have a good year last year but i fully expect him to pick up his game and breakout. He's only 26, has great instincts and superb tackling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkirk Donski Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 30 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: One Superbowl starting safety. Edwards did start the Superbowl last year, but wasn't good in it. He didn't start the Superbowl when he was with Tampa, thought he played in some dime packages. Rapp did not start the Superbowl for the Rams, he was coming back from a concussion and played less than half the defensive snaps. My problem with them is they are both replacement level starters. I think Edwards is a bit better than Rapp but I wouldn't mind either so much if they were playing with a better player. But two players of that level together is a concern for me. It's like having Vlad Ducasse and Jordan Mills together on the right hand side of your offensive line. Sounds like Poyer and Hyde doesnt it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Just now, Dunkirk Donski said: Sounds like Poyer and Hyde doesnt it No, not at all. I liked both of those guys and Hyde in particular had excellent tape. I don't accept the "these signings are on a par with Hyde and Poyer." There is a germ of truth with it in respect of Poyer, in that he was not and never had been an established starter before he arrived in Buffalo - but even he got basically the same AAV - $3.5m on his deal in 2017 that Rapp got now after 7 years of salary inflation. Micah Hyde was an established NFL player with a ton of great tape who got over $6m AAV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkirk Donski Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: No, not at all. I liked both of those guys and Hyde in particular had excellent tape. I don't accept the "these signings are on a par with Hyde and Poyer." There is a germ of truth with it in respect of Poyer, in that he was not and never had been an established starter before he arrived in Buffalo - but even he got basically the same AAV - $3.5m on his deal in 2017 that Rapp got now after 7 years of salary inflation. Micah Hyde was an established NFL player with a ton of great tape who got over $6m AAV. Funny, I loved Rapp out of college and thought he had excellent tape coming in last year, similar to your take on Hyde. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 3 minutes ago, Dunkirk Donski said: Funny, I loved Rapp out of college and thought he had excellent tape coming in last year, similar to your take on Hyde. I liked Rapp out of college too. He has not been good in the pros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkirk Donski Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 22 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I liked Rapp out of college too. He has not been good in the pros. Rapp has been inconsistent. The talent most definitely IS there. I fully believe our coaching staff will bring the best out of Rapp and Edwards as they've show us time and time again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 (edited) I'm very happy that we added Edwards. 2 Super Bowl rings. Insights into KC's defensive schemes. Playmaker. 4 Defensive TD's. 3 INT's in the playoffs. 27 years old. Low $. If he performs at a high level we can lock him in for 3 more years. Seems to be a quality character who strives for more than being called "underrated" Incoming All-Pro 😎 Edited March 22 by Warriorspikes51 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 6 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I'm very happy that we added Edwards. 2 Super Bowl rings. Insights into KC's defensive schemes. Playmaker. 4 Defensive TD's. 3 INT's in the playoffs. 27 years old. Low $. If he performs at a high level we can lock him in for 3 more years. Seems to be a quality character who strives for more than being called "underrated" Incoming All-Pro 😎 Also cool that he said he watches a lot of Hyde tape and models his game after that 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 I will say this about him...... he isn't quite Jordan Poyer, but he doesn't exactly hurt the overall attractiveness of the safety room. 😍 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 18 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I will say this about him...... he isn't quite Jordan Poyer, but he doesn't exactly hurt the overall attractiveness of the safety room. 😍 Gunner did sherlockholmes take over your account? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 1 minute ago, MrEpsYtown said: Gunner did sherlockholmes take over your account? He only fancies white guys. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: He only fancies white guys. He must really like Ricky Pearsall ❤️ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 7 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: He must really like Ricky Pearsall ❤️ Yea he'd be more his type. I haven't seen him round here for a while. He is welcome to Pearsall though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 (edited) Edited March 22 by Warriorspikes51 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 35 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I like Cosell and feel he brings really good evaluation and insight. But his evaluation makes me wonder again, why just a 1 year deal? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 46 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: I like Cosell and feel he brings really good evaluation and insight. But his evaluation makes me wonder again, why just a 1 year deal? Edwards can increase his value and sign long term or hit the market 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 12 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Yea he'd be more his type. I haven't seen him round here for a while. He is welcome to Pearsall though. As a gator fan, I will volunteer to be the one to talk about Ricky pearsalls attractiveness anytime a white receiver is brought up 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Stop gap for a upcoming draft pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 On 3/21/2024 at 12:20 AM, Turk71 said: Original.... I'm not their no. 1 fan but if you're rated as two of the very worst safeties...chances are you're not very good Also, all 32 NFL teams and a couple hundred colleges pay for their professional services, so I'd say they have some credibility. I’m talking about the sound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 4 minutes ago, mikemac2001 said: I’m talking about the sound It sounds dry to me 😆 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Warriorspikes51 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 14 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Reid has a career in comedy when he retires Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 7 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Reid has a career in comedy when he retires I don't see the joke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 3 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Reid has a career in comedy when he retires McDemott was actually assistant DBs coach under Spags and they are both disciples of Jim Johnson. Spags has evolved to play more man and blitz more, but Johnson was know being pretty aggressive. Jim Johnson is a disciple of Fritz Shurmur who also mentored Dick Jauron. So McDermott seems to lean on the zone side of things. But the connections are there as well as some similarities in scheme. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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