TBBills Fan Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 30 minutes ago, Mynamemike said: We love having the oldest active back in the league. Gore, Murray, Tolbert, so which free agent fits that criteria that’s gonna take touches away from Cook? To be fair, Gore is a vampire so age is irrelevant 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: James cooked sucked as a pass protector his first year And vastly improved Year two Pass protecting is the hardest thing for a professional running back to get... That's why cook didn't get on the field a lot as a rookie But he learned how to pass protect.. and so can ty Johnson You're not asking a sixth round rookie to come in and be a three down back dude... You're also not asking a running back on a one-year deal to come in and be a three down back That young running back would have a year or two to learn the system and protections because we already have a pro bowl running back in James Cook... The guy who is top five in yardage They're literally only getting guys that will complement him So why can't we draft an RB1 in two years, and bring in a vet that has proven to be able to pass-pro to do spot duty at the same time..... like we just did for James Cook? Do you grasp that you are wasting 2 years of a "cost-controlled" contract on the position that, by NFL contract standards, is already the most cost-controlled ever? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 (edited) 7 minutes ago, FireChans said: So why can't we draft an RB1 in two years, and bring in a vet that has proven to be able to pass-pro to do spot duty at the same time..... like we just did for James Cook? Do you grasp that you are wasting 2 years of a "cost-controlled" contract on the position that, by NFL contract standards, is already the most cost-controlled ever? Because I'd rather take a shot on somebody who could be karlos Williams for even one year If we got nine touchdowns out of a rookie running back we could be heading to the super bowl A dude who was taking 30 yarders to the house and running away from NFL players like it was nothing You're not getting that on a one-year free agent even if you're getting a good player Yes I know he completely disappeared as a player... But that's the nature and damage of a running back But this team today with rookie karlos Williams could be going to the bowl.. even for one year that is worth it That's the right fifth or sixth round pick away Edited February 27 by Buffalo716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 3 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Because I'd rather take a shot on somebody who could be karlos Williams for even one year If we got nine touchdowns out of a rookie running back we could be heading to the super bowl A dude who was taking 30 yarders to the house and running away from NFL players like it was nothing You're not getting that on a one-year free agent even if you're getting a good player Yes I know he completely disappeared as a player... But that's the nature and damage of a running back But this team today with rookie karlos Williams could be going to the bowl.. even for one year that is worth it That's the right fifth or sixth round pick away You know what, fair enough. i would argue that that’s a bad long-term strategy, but if you are gonna put your hopes on a lotto ticket, a late round RB is the position I’d bet on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 minute ago, FireChans said: You know what, fair enough. i would argue that that’s a bad long-term strategy, but if you are gonna put your hopes on a lotto ticket, a late round RB is the position I’d bet on. It's not a great strategy... But when we have a team that's as stacked as we are... I mean we're like 47 out of 52 deep.. maybe 50-52 I would be looking for that little thing to get me over the edge I fully understand your strategy and that is probably what 95% of the NFL should do And I do like ty Johnson again... But imagine if you got him an inch bigger and 15 lb more.. with fresh legs And he's capable of taking 6 yards a carry because James Cook and Josh Allen wear down the defense... That would make ty Johnson like Mike gillieslee... Who was going for six yards of carry as a third string back If Josh Allen had that kind of backfield we might be unstoppable I totally understand your points though good conversation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 (edited) 16 hours ago, FireChans said: You know what, fair enough. i would argue that that’s a bad long-term strategy, but if you are gonna put your hopes on a lotto ticket, a late round RB is the position I’d bet on. I mean, this is essentially it. The value of the RB position is such that you're probably going to get a much better RB in the late Rounds than you are any of the other positions. The odds of hitting on one of those are probably better than the 45th CB or WR left on the board. And ultimately, we need probably 2 guys. Even a couple million dollars saved on not bringing in another vet RB can be the difference between one type of FA or another at some of the more important positions that we have holes to fill on. If we can do better than Ty Johnson for the price he costs on the one guy I see us bringing in, that's fine by me. But my mindset is 1 Vet Min FA and 1 Late Round Pick. Edited February 27 by BillsFanForever19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 (edited) It's unfortunate that it won't happen, but Barkley and Allen would tear this league to shreds. Barring his health, of course, Barkley would be Allen's Terrell Davis. Edited February 27 by Chicken Boo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 I think any of the guys on that list will be looking for bigger money than the Bills are willing to pay UNLESS they are still sitting later in the new season then like Beane did with Floyd & might be able to get them on a much better/friendlier contract . I do hope that they bring back a bigger back like Murray or Harris maybe no those 2 in particular but the same or better get a bigger back in the draft in the later rounds that can be here for a few years to help keep the running game legit & something other teams have to game plan for . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillenger4 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Saquon would make this team untouchable. Run Cook for sweeps and passing plays. Run Saquon on 1st down and short yardage. Let them both cook! That would be amazing! I wish! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 22 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said: Saquon would make this team untouchable. Run Cook for sweeps and passing plays. Run Saquon on 1st down and short yardage. Let them both cook! That would be amazing! I wish! See there is this little thing called the salary cap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggerdaddynj Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 19 hours ago, Pete said: Bills need a pass blocking, short yardage back. That way Josh is not our battering ram. Bills need a tough RB who runs angry. We are lacking and need that. A 6th or 7th most likely will not yield that. I want a proven player Not sure who the answer is this year for that role but kudos to Latavius Murray who deserves a lot of credit for last year because whenever he came in it was pretty clear what he was doing—blocking, grinding out those hard to get 2 yards the D knew was coming and he also caught some timely passes—just looked up his rushing stats 79 atts/300 yds/4 TDs and he converted 27 first downs on those 79 carries (very good ratio for someone who earned them like he did). True professional (analysts always seemed to note his value). Wish him well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 On 2/26/2024 at 10:35 PM, KDIGGZ said: Who cares. Get the best WR’s we can! Fixed it for you… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 AJ Dillon would be nice but I’d imagine he’ll get north of 3 million a season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 I'm guessing if everybody listed a house for sale at the same time housing would be cheaper. Some of these guys are not going to get paid nearly what they think they're worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Hopefully we sign Ty Johnson. Think Cook, Johnson and Nyhiem Hines would be a good trio. We also need Hines to return kicks and punts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 4 minutes ago, wppete said: Hopefully we sign Ty Johnson. Think Cook, Johnson and Nyhiem Hines would be a good trio. We also need Hines to return kicks and punts. Whether people like it or not, Hines will be in Training Camp on a reduced number and given every opportunity to earn a roster spot as a Reserve Back and Return Man. Outside of that, I'm looking at the best vet minimum will get us at RB and then a 6th or 7th Round Back. If we can get a better RB than Johnson at the same price, I'm open to it. But if it's a penny more, I'm bringing back Johnson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 On 2/26/2024 at 3:40 PM, BuffaloBillyG said: And the Bills will be linked to every single one. IMO, the main one I'm watching is CEH. He's shouldn't command much and may like to reunite with Joe Brady. Would take over the Murray role. Darrynton Evans is under contract again and could be the PS/3rd RB along with a late round rookie. I would dig havin CEH as a Bill. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 43 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: I would dig havin CEH as a Bill. I don’t understand why Being a hero aside, he really didn’t do much for the Chiefs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 4 hours ago, John from Riverside said: I don’t understand why Being a hero aside, he really didn’t do much for the Chiefs He wouldn’t be a 1 here, and I do understand your concerns. 2023 was a down year for sure, but the previous 4 years he averaged 4.3 yards per carry. Not the fastest guy - 4.6 fourty time but he has decent power, shifty, and great vision. I wouldn’t mind him in a split role with Ty. Obviously, we have no say in the matter and there is lots of FA backs this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 Dillion. With his size may be seen as a 2 down back. Big guy to pair with Cook. Im looking for a big back plus. Not just Murray but a combo of Johnson and Murray. Maybe draft a guy day 3 and pick up a vet before camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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