machine gun kelly Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) Reich did get the most out of Wentz, so would he be interested. He’s been a failed HC on two teams so not sure he wants to go back to a QB coach. I disagree with the blunt comment, rather a coach who knows how to get the most out of a QB. Allen played lights out down the stretch so he’s not the problem. He played a great game in KC. He wasn’t the problem and we lost by 3, not 13. We lost that Chiefs game because our defense was so banged up we had backups and backup of backups playing. We beat the Chiefs just a few weeks earlier when we had more starters. Edited January 30 by machine gun kelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 what Josh needs most is a legit WR2 (like Aiyuk, waddle, Nacua, Higgins, etc..) 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 22 hours ago, Back2Buff said: With the Bills not learning and just giving Josh what he wants in the OC coach again, they need to find a QB coach that is going to get into Josh's brain. A guy that has been around for a while, and isn't looking to baby Allen. One guy I'm wondering if he will do it as a "favor", is Frank Reich. He obviously doesn't need a job, but wondering if he would come back here to try and get us over the hump. These last two hires at QB coach, Dorsey and Brady, have been young guys that were looking to eventually be head coaches. We don't need to go in that direction again. LOL You say you want tough and hard nosed but then bring up Frank Reich? That’s like saying I need a tough off road vehicle…give me a Toyota Corolla. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 All Josh needs is WRs that can catch a football. The main thing they get paid for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 The nostalgia for old Bills appears again. It's sway on the fan is powerful. It causes fans not to think critically. It has the kavorka. No one who has been HC twice is going to come back as a position coach--even as a favor. Besides, Josh is just fine. Strategy and play calling in the early season were the culprits of 6-6. McDermott andJoe Brady fixed that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 1 minute ago, boater said: The nostalgia for old Bills appears again. It's sway on the fan is powerful. It causes fans not to think critically. It has the kavorka. No one who has been HC twice is going to come back as a position coach--even as a favor. Besides, Josh is just fine. Strategy and play calling in the early season were the culprits of 6-6. McDermott andJoe Brady fixed that. Get the heck out of here with that crap, seriously just go away. The guy led the league in turnovers on continuous BONEHEAD plays. People need to stop blaming everyone else but the guy literally giving the ball to the other team. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 hours ago, papazoid said: what Josh needs most is a legit WR2 (like Aiyuk, waddle, Nacua, Higgins, etc..) I wish there was a trade to be made for Aiyuk, maybe a DB and some picks. Not sure why the 9ers would move him, but he will be pretty expensive going forward with a lot of money tied up in veterans on their team, especially at the skill positions. I'm sure they would find a way to make it work with a very cheap QB on the books. But a guy like Aiyuk would be a great fit with Josh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 minute ago, Back2Buff said: Get the heck out of here with that crap, seriously just go away. The guy led the league in turnovers on continuous BONEHEAD plays. People need to stop blaming everyone else but the guy literally giving the ball to the other team. Pittsburgh game = 0 interceptions. Chiefs game = 0 interceptions. Regular season = 18 interceptions over 17 games. Yeah, he had a bad day the first game of the season against the Jets with 3 interceptions. Don't let that bias your perception of the other games. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 1 minute ago, boater said: Pittsburgh game = 0 interceptions. Chiefs game = 0 interceptions. Regular season = 18 interceptions over 17 games. Yeah, he had a bad day the first game of the season against the Jets with 3 interceptions. Don't let that bias your perception of the other games. We don't even play the playoff games if the defense doesn't get this team into the playoffs. We have the number one seed and week 18 "bye" if Allen doesn't throw 3 picks vs Jets, 2 vs Den, and doesn't throw a pick on first play of game vs NE. How healthy would we have been if guys didn't have to play for 2 weeks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Just now, Back2Buff said: We don't even play the playoff games if the defense doesn't get this team into the playoffs. We have the number one seed and week 18 "bye" if Allen doesn't throw 3 picks vs Jets, 2 vs Den, and doesn't throw a pick on first play of game vs NE. How healthy would we have been if guys didn't have to play for 2 weeks? Woulda, coulda, shoulda... If we're analyzing that way--imagine if Bass was his old reliable self and didn't shank kicks. Or imagine if receivers didn't have so many drops ...and the list goes on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 1 minute ago, boater said: Woulda, coulda, shoulda... If we're analyzing that way--imagine if Bass was his old reliable self and didn't shank kicks. Or imagine if receivers didn't have so many drops ...and the list goes on. Every kicker misses kicks. Every WR drops passes. Pretty sure the team with the most drops is in the super bowl. Allen leads the league in turnovers since he became a regular starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 25 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: Every kicker misses kicks. Every WR drops passes. Pretty sure the team with the most drops is in the super bowl. Allen leads the league in turnovers since he became a regular starter. OMG, that team in the Super Bowl had a QB with 5 less turnovers than Allen. Mahomes - 17 turnovers Allen - 22 Turnovers Lets take a look at TD's now. Mahomes - 27 Allen - 44 So if we're doing the net production.... Allen +22 Mahomes + 10 People like Brett Farve, Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Big Ben and Eli Manning all lead the league in turnovers and most of these more than once. They all won Super Bowls. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 If they are looking for a Blunt Coach I'm interested . 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, Back2Buff said: We have the number one seed and week 18 "bye" if Allen doesn't throw 3 picks vs Jets, 2 vs Den, and doesn't throw a pick on first play of game vs NE. How healthy would we have been if guys didn't have to play for 2 weeks? We have the 1 seed if McDermott didn't let the Eagles, NE, and Denver walk down and score after Josh gives the go ahead TD. Blaming the QB when he's consistently the best player on the field is convenient and lazy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Did someone say blunt ?? 🌲💨🔥 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 On 1/29/2024 at 7:47 AM, Back2Buff said: With the Bills not learning and just giving Josh what he wants in the OC coach again, they need to find a QB coach that is going to get into Josh's brain. A guy that has been around for a while, and isn't looking to baby Allen. One guy I'm wondering if he will do it as a "favor", is Frank Reich. He obviously doesn't need a job, but wondering if he would come back here to try and get us over the hump. These last two hires at QB coach, Dorsey and Brady, have been young guys that were looking to eventually be head coaches. We don't need to go in that direction again. I bet if we had a coach like that Josh might even be perennially in the MVP conversation and be commonly referred to as a future Hall-of-famer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, Back2Buff said: Get the heck out of here with that crap, seriously just go away. The guy led the league in turnovers on continuous BONEHEAD plays. People need to stop blaming everyone else but the guy literally giving the ball to the other team. You do know that Allen didn’t actually lead the league in turnovers, right? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 On 1/29/2024 at 7:55 AM, JustHewIt said: Why? Is there something wrong with our quarterback that needs tough love? I thought he played pretty damn well after he got out from under whatever Dorsey was coaching him to do. When Josh Allen is locked in, I believe he's the best QB in the NFL. He has far too much variance to actually be considered the best QB in the NFL right now though.. that goes to Patrick Mahomes. And you'll say that it's because of the hardware, but he has the hardware because of the work put in throughout the season. This is the first year that he's had to play a road playoff game. And even this year, where he was uncharacteristically up and down, they were able to bank enough wins to rest everyone Week 17. That matters. We had to go all out Week 17 and lost multiple guys for the playoffs. Then the following week, lost even more. Chiefs rested Week 17, and it's a good thing they did, because since then they've lost Thuney and Omenihu. Chiefs last year had a bye week and then played a weak Jax at home.. ta-da right into the AFC CG. Baltimore this year had two bye weeks, played a weak Hou at home.. ta-da right into the AFC CG. Is there anyone that can make Josh more consistent during the season? If so, it's worth exploring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 On 1/29/2024 at 6:47 AM, Back2Buff said: With the Bills not learning and just giving Josh what he wants in the OC coach again, they need to find a QB coach that is going to get into Josh's brain. A guy that has been around for a while, and isn't looking to baby Allen. One guy I'm wondering if he will do it as a "favor", is Frank Reich. He obviously doesn't need a job, but wondering if he would come back here to try and get us over the hump. These last two hires at QB coach, Dorsey and Brady, have been young guys that were looking to eventually be head coaches. We don't need to go in that direction again. Others have honed in on your suggestion of Frank Reich. I'd like to hone in on your suggestion that someone who "isn't looking to baby Allen" is what is needed. That implies that past QB coaches perhaps *have* tried to "baby Allen". I'd like to understand why you think that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GustheDog33 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, Back2Buff said: Every kicker misses kicks. Every WR drops passes. Pretty sure the team with the most drops is in the super bowl. Allen leads the league in turnovers since he became a regular starter. It must be weird to be a Bills fan and also hate Allen. I remember Kelly with *checks notes* a league leading 19 interceptions in 1992. Frank Reich on the other hand only had 2 that season. 🤷♂️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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