LABILLBACKER Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 43 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: I think Bills should go WR in 1 & 3. Someone with a fast 40 time. Get a blue chip safety in the 2nd round. Yup, WR, S, WR. No other pattern. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 For everyone wanting a WR - statistics say round # 1 picks are a coin flip relative to productivity in year #1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty98 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) Give me Kam Kinchens from Miami. One of the better safety's out there and we have to replace two. He's a ball hawk, isn't super proficient in the run game, but he's was a do it all safety for Miami 2 years ago, this year he missed some time with an injury but was their best player on the back 7. They have two high caliber safeties coming out but James Williams is a Strong Safety whereas Kam is the FS. Edited January 22 by Monty98 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 I'm literally laughing at everyone who answered WR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 You can forget about moving on from Beane's high-priced, horrible contracts, so assuming we're stuck with Knox, Bass, Diggs, Tre, Von and others, I'm going with WR and Safety as by far our two biggest needs. I'll leave it to others who know more about the incoming class of rookies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 3 hours ago, bills6969 said: WIDE RECEIVER we need a #2 guy. This years draft has a ton of WR talent at the top. Here’s a a few guys that i think may be available for us: Troy Franklin Keon Coleman Adonai Mitchell would be ecstatic if we got one of these guys I do not think we have a 1. Diggs will be here, but Diggs isn't Diggs. Yes, double dip but at 1/5 or 2/4. Not 1/2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 28 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: As a UGA follower I wouldnt even take him in the 2nd, especially given what he brings to this team, which is nothing we dont already have. Not meant as diss on Ladd. I think Legette is our guy at 28. Not sold yet on Franklin or Thomas but combine and workouts could change that. Re: Ladd - It feels like at least based on the numbers that he's a very effective WR against zone coverage, finding holes to squat down in and whatnot which is probably the strength of our current WRs. Franklin and Thomas appear to be much more effective against man coverage. They definitely have their warts though. Thomas seems to be amazing at beating press coverage which is one of the main traits I'm looking for, but he seems to have a bit of the Chase Claypool gene where he doesn't like attacking the ball in the air. Far better separator than guys like Claypool though so it shouldn't totally ruin him as a player. Franklin is a bit more raw in terms of releasing against press/route running/ball tracking but he'll go up and get it and is just a great speed threat everywhere. Re: Legette, taking this long to become a remotely productive college player is a pretty serious red flag, particularly with WRs and he doesn't seem particularly good against press coverage still. Feels like a lot of people compare him to DK Metcalf, but DK's ability to beat press coverage was his greatest skill whereas it's a weakness for Legette. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, DCOrange said: Re: Ladd - It feels like at least based on the numbers that he's a very effective WR against zone coverage, finding holes to squat down in and whatnot which is probably the strength of our current WRs. Franklin and Thomas appear to be much more effective against man coverage. They definitely have their warts though. Thomas seems to be amazing at beating press coverage which is one of the main traits I'm looking for, but he seems to have a bit of the Chase Claypool gene where he doesn't like attacking the ball in the air. Far better separator than guys like Claypool though so it shouldn't totally ruin him as a player. Franklin is a bit more raw in terms of releasing against press/route running/ball tracking but he'll go up and get it and is just a great speed threat everywhere. Re: Legette, taking this long to become a remotely productive college player is a pretty serious red flag, particularly with WRs and he doesn't seem particularly good against press coverage still. Feels like a lot of people compare him to DK Metcalf, but DK's ability to beat press coverage was his greatest skill whereas it's a weakness for Legette. I wish people wouldn't mention Metcalf. Years later, I'm still pissed off about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 It's going to be a safety 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, Goin Breakdown said: It's going to be a safety I'm pretty sure you're right, seeing as how the Bills will be forced into taking the fourth or fifth WR off the board by the time they pick. So, who are the top one or two College safeties in the Draft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Brian Thomas Jr- LSU. 6'4" 205lbs. Deep threat extraordinaire. Overshadowed by Nabers a bit, but could be a just as dangerous. I watched some film on Jayden Daniels & all I kept noticing was Thomas Jr really stood out. I honestly think Nabers/Thomas had more to do with the Heisman season than Daniels himself. I think Thomas is exactly what we need & currently projected in the back third of the 1st round. I also think Troy Franklin is a great fit for us. He's more well-rounded than Thomas Jr, but slightly less explosive. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: I'm pretty sure you're right, seeing as how the Bills will be forced into taking the fourth or fifth WR off the board by the time they pick. So, who are the top one or two College safeties in the Draft? Watch tape of Cooper DeJean to see a player who McD would cream his jeans to get. Unfortunately, now that we've landed at 28, DeJean will likely be long gone by then. And I cant justify a trade up for a Safety. But that kid would completely transform our Defense. He's a Troy Polamalu, doesnt have a real position just let him run wild, type player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 16 minutes ago, Monty98 said: Give me Kam Kinchens from Miami. One of the better safety's out there and we have to replace two. He's a ball hawk, isn't super proficient in the run game, but he's was a do it all safety for Miami 2 years ago, this year he missed some time with an injury but was their best player on the back 7. They have two high caliber safeties coming out but James Williams is a Strong Safety whereas Kam is the FS. James Williams is no high caliber safety. Kitchens absolutely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty98 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 3 hours ago, bills6969 said: WIDE RECEIVER we need a #2 guy. This years draft has a ton of WR talent at the top. Here’s a a few guys that i think may be available for us: Troy Franklin Keon Coleman Adonai Mitchell would be ecstatic if we got one of these guys Avoid Keon Coleman like the plague. He showed up for 2 games at FSU and it was the LSU and Syracuse game. Outside of that he was pedestrian at best. Everyone sees his size and he will test well and think D.K. 2.0 but he has not produced like D.K. has. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 4 hours ago, KDIGGZ said: Top needs: 1. WR 2. WR 3. S 4. WR 5. DT I think we need multiple WR's. We need a burner and we need a #1b. Diggs looked like poo, we need someone with the potential to replace him within 2 seasons. This. I mean, there's always a need for OL and CB, but WR and to a lesser extent S need to be our top priorities. We should ideally come out of the draft with at least two new WRs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty98 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just now, gonzo1105 said: James Williams is no high caliber safety. Kitchens absolutely If you're playing him in the Poyer role, he's a good safety and high calibre, didn't say first round pick, but a high calibre player. Closer to a Kam Chancellor type, but still high calibre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFBillsfan Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 One thing to watch is Beane better not go to sleep as the draft pick gets close. KC will be looking for the same type of player so if your WR is there, go get him. Don’t get blindsided like they did with McDuffie. WR has to be the pick barring something unexpected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 I'd go WR all the way. One thing McD and Beane have proved is that they're very good at getting defensive talent that fits this system in the later rounds, or even as lower cost FAs. I'd use the top 3 picks on offense myself but I agree they'll probably choose a safety 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFan Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, Iverwig said: I know the need for a receiver but unless they sign a veteran safety they will probably take a safety because that will be a need also. With the depth of receivers in this draft I say go safety at 28 and trade up in the second and draft a receiver. I think AD Mitchell of Texas may be available in the second but the Bills will probably have to trade up in the second to get him. 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: As a UGA follower I wouldnt even take him in the 2nd, especially given what he brings to this team, which is nothing we dont already have. Not meant as diss on Ladd. I think Legette is our guy at 28. Not sold yet on Franklin or Thomas but combine and workouts could change that. As a fellow Bulldog backer, I think the plan should be to trade out of the first to the early 2nd rd picking up an extra 3rd and maybe a late 4th as well. I'd then use the early 2nd on Adonai Mitchell, and the late 2nd on Bullard (or other available safety). I'd have zero problem with grabbing Ladd in 3rd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 4 minutes ago, Monty98 said: If you're playing him in the Poyer role, he's a good safety and high calibre, didn't say first round pick, but a high calibre player. Closer to a Kam Chancellor type, but still high calibre James Williams can’t cover as a safety in college and is known as a big hitter but fails to wrap on tackles by lowering his shoulder too much. Guys like him are dinosaurs in the NFL today . Also throw in the character issues he has and you have a guy I wouldn’t take until round 5. Williams gets his love from his HS ranking and being a 5 star out of HS. Kitchens covered a lot of his flaws up imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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