Governor Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 (edited) 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: The only way he was getting fired here this year is if, from 6-6, the team quit on him and collapsed down the stretch. If we'd finished 6-11 instead of 11-6 and it looked like he had lost the locker room then all bets would have been off. But that didn't happen. Right but the season isn’t over. Let’s just say that something bad happens, the unthinkable happens, do you think anyone is going to remember the previous 6 wins? Do you think that after a career crushing loss, people will view that as the team rallying to their coach? I think as fans we should be mentally prepared for all possible outcomes. This would be #4. I mean, he’s already done it 3 out of 3 times. The following day people would be calling him Marv 2.0 for Christ’s sake. Edited January 18 by Governor 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 6 minutes ago, Governor said: Right but the season isn’t over. Let’s just say that something bad happens, the unthinkable happens, do you think anyone is going to remember the previous 6 wins? Do you think that after a career crushing loss, people will view that as the team rallying to their coach? I think as fans we should be mentally prepared for all possible outcomes. This would be #4. I mean, he’s already done it 3 out of 3 times. The following day people would be calling him Marv 2.0 for Christ’s sake. You’re being dramatic. “The unthinkable”? One of two good teams is going to lose a football game. Neither result is unthinkable. Also, yeah, fans tend to only remember the last thing that happened. That’s why you put more reasonable objective decision makers at the switches. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 3 minutes ago, Governor said: Right but the season isn’t over. Let’s just say that something bad happens, the unthinkable happens, do you think anyone is going to remember the previous 6 wins? Do you think that after a career crushing loss, people will view that as the team rallying to their coach? I think as fans we should be mentally prepared for all possible outcomes. This would be #4. The following day people would be calling him Marv 2.0 for Christ’s sake. There's nothing that could happen in one game that would prevent him from being retained. Nothing. No matter how much you want it. Not even a 13 seconds repeat type situation or a blowout. Pegula (IMO) is extremely relieved that McDermott made the playoffs so he could easily justify not making a change. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 4 hours ago, kota said: just saw that Ron Rivera is interested in coaching still and how he missed coaching on a granular level when he took over for Jack Del Rio who was fired mid season. He also stated he has a few opportunities available. I think this is a bit interesting. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 13 minutes ago, Governor said: Right but the season isn’t over. Let’s just say that something bad happens, the unthinkable happens, do you think anyone is going to remember the previous 6 wins? Do you think that after a career crushing loss, people will view that as the team rallying to their coach? I think as fans we should be mentally prepared for all possible outcomes. This would be #4. I mean, he’s already done it 3 out of 3 times. The following day people would be calling him Marv 2.0 for Christ’s sake. People? Possibly not. But there is only one person that matters. We could lose 40-10 on Sunday and he wouldn't be fired. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 4 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: There's nothing that could happen in one game that would prevent him from being retained. Nothing. No matter how much you want it. Not even a 13 seconds repeat type situation or a blowout. Pegula (IMO) is extremely relieved that McDermott made the playoffs so he could easily justify not making a change. He’s relieved that he might not have to fire him. I think you’re right about that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 2 hours ago, Governor said: We need to save this thread. Theres a 95 percent chance McD would hire Rivera. It’s likely already in the works. He already signaled that he’d be ok being an assistant or coordinator. We definitely need to save this thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 13 minutes ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said: You’re being dramatic. “The unthinkable”? One of two good teams is going to lose a football game. Neither result is unthinkable. Also, yeah, fans tend to only remember the last thing that happened. That’s why you put more reasonable objective decision makers at the switches. We have a 52 percent chance of winning. I’m not talking about a tough, close loss. I’m talking about a “McD special” where HE is the sole reason why we lose the game, like 13 seconds. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 What’s fascinating is that McD totally flakes out for 1 full quarter in each game. Last week was no exception. The team is also a reflection of him and they also flake out for a full quarter, but sometimes they’re different quarters. The problem is that you never know when it’s going to happen and you’re left hanging on for dear life if it happens in the 4th quarter. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 4 hours ago, Governor said: He used injuries as his excuse last season. At some point it is what it is. It would be 4 years of losses, 2 years with no improvement. This is the biggest game of his career so far. It would also depend on how we lost. We’d be getting into Marvin Lewis territory. Don’t blow it! For the love of God, do people like you watch football? Marvin Lewis was with the Bengals for 16 years. He went to the playoffs 7 times. He went 0-7 in the playoffs. That's right, he never won a playoff game in 7 tries. McDermott already has 5 playoff wins. He will NEVER be at Marvin Lewis level. He has already long surpassed it. That gives no excuse to lose. But just to tell people that compare him to Marvin Lewis that they have no clue what they are talking about and sound like they don't watch football 1 1 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritBill Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Just now, ScottLaw said: Why are we hiring Rivera again? To replace McDermott now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 2 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: For the love of God, do people like you watch football? Marvin Lewis was with the Bengals for 16 years. He went to the playoffs 7 times. He went 0-7 in the playoffs. That's right, he never won a playoff game in 7 tries. McDermott already has 5 playoff wins. He will NEVER be at Marvin Lewis level. He has already long surpassed it. That gives no excuse to lose. But just to tell people that compare him to Marvin Lewis that they have no clue what they are talking about and sound like they don't watch football Similarly the Marty comparison.... McDermott in 6 playoff seasons already has as many wins as Marty had in 13. The better comparison IMO is Bill Cowher. He made the playoffs his first 6 years (McD 6 of 7), was 1 and done the first two years (so was McD) but then was winning playoff games without winning the big one (I know they made and lost a Superbowl in there). That is not me saying he is bound to win one in the end like Cowher did, and Cowher didn't have Josh Allen, I get that. But in terms of coaches who it feels can't get over the playoff hump McDermott is much more comparable to Cowher than to Marty or Marv. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Jones Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Maybe in your mind and the mind of some fans. He is safe in the Pegulas mind. There’s absolutely no way in the world you can know this unless you’re very close to the Pegulas. Are you? If yes, how’s Kim doing? 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 10 minutes ago, Governor said: What’s fascinating is that McD totally flakes out for 1 full quarter in each game. Last week was no exception. The team is also a reflection of him and they also flake out for a full quarter, but sometimes they’re different quarters. The problem is that you never know when it’s going to happen and you’re left hanging on for dear life if it happens in the 4th quarter. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 4 hours ago, kota said: just saw that Ron Rivera is interested in coaching still and how he missed coaching on a granular level when he took over for Jack Del Rio who was fired mid season. He also stated he has a few opportunities available. I think this is a bit interesting. No. Would be a huge mistake on a lot of levels. I'm never a big fan of promoting from within just for the sake of it, however the Bills seem to have a pipeline of guys that have seemingly been brought along to take a DC spot eventually. Namely Eric Washington and Bobby Babich. If McD hands off the DC role I think it will be to one of those 2. I wouldn't, however, rule out the possibility of Rivera ending up on the staff in a different role should a coaching job not present itself elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 3 minutes ago, Bob Jones said: There’s absolutely no way in the world you can know this unless you’re very close to the Pegulas. Are you? If yes, how’s Kim doing? No. But the reporting by Joe B and what I was told last summer by a very well placed source (Pegula considers McDermott and Beane pretty much as family and would be loathed to fire either of them he wants them as his coach and GM for very much the long term) both line up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 4 hours ago, Governor said: McD isn’t really safe yet. He has to beat KC at home or all hell is gonna break loose. We have won 6 games in a row. We went from the #11 seed to the #2 seed. We secured that #2 seed with a road win against a hated division rival in the final game of the regular season. Along the way we beat the NFC #2 seed, regardless of what happened to them last week, and the Chiefs in Arrowhead.....again. We then took care of business against a scrappy Pittsburgh team on Monday while our defensive starters, and replacements from previously injured starters, dropped like flies. We all want to win this game. McDermott, Beane, the Pegula's, the players, and the fans. All of us. We all want to get the monkey off of our backs and prove that the Chiefs don't own us in the Playoffs. McDermott wants to get past his old coach when it matters most. Josh, Diggs, Dawkins, Morse, Oliver, Rousseau, Hyde, Poyer, EVERYONE wants this more than anything. But if you think McDermott is on the hot seat after the run we've had since early December, you are terribly mistaken. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 5 hours ago, kota said: just saw that Ron Rivera is interested in coaching still and how he missed coaching on a granular level when he took over for Jack Del Rio who was fired mid season. He also stated he has a few opportunities available. I think this is a bit interesting. It's not interesting at all. Rivera is an overrated coach. McDermott has done a great job with our defense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 4 hours ago, Governor said: McD isn’t really safe yet. He has to beat KC at home or all hell is gonna break loose. Nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 4 hours ago, QCity said: He's safe. He's always been safe. He wasn't about a month ago but he's ok now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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