Dablitzkrieg Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 He really stunk yesterday and down the stretch. Not wanting to say I'm hopeful that he is/was injured, but if he wasn't, he's done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 I still believe he was injured and it’s going to come out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 I posted this in another thread, but you guys know he was still near the top of the league in everything this year, despite having a poor year by his standards, right? He could easily have 2-3 more Top 5-7 years in him with the right gameplan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 6 hours ago, John from Riverside said: I still believe he was injured and it’s going to come out whether or not an injury effected him- every guy gets dinged up and I’d expect a vague “playing through some stuff” type of comment to back the fan base down even if it wasn’t materially impactful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 I just thought of something... 2023 Cinci: Stefon Diggs is pacing up and down the sidelines, pissed, going off on the sideline on Josh and Josh just sitting there after his poor performance. 2024 KC: Stefon Diggs is out there not making big plays, no histrionics on the sideline while Josh is playing an exceptional game and NOT going off on Stef. Stef didn't stay to be interviewed while Josh did. Shouldn't the supposed WR1 of this team, still looked on that way by Beane himself, who doesn't want to be traded or leave, be a leader leading by example?!?!! It pisses me off that Josh takes the heat and leads by example while Stef doesn't. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 18 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: I posted this in another thread, but you guys know he was still near the top of the league in everything this year, despite having a poor year by his standards, right? He could easily have 2-3 more Top 5-7 years in him with the right gameplan He fell off a cliff statistically. The final 10 games of the season he had 1 TD and 1 game over 75 yards. And the eye test was bad as well. Way more drops than usual, not getting separation, and not fighting back for the ball. I hope you are right, but something was up and it wasn’t just the change in OC. I’m crossing my fingers for injury that he can recover from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventeen Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 4 minutes ago, DapperCam said: He fell off a cliff statistically. The final 10 games of the season he had 1 TD and 1 game over 75 yards. And the eye test was bad as well. Way more drops than usual, not getting separation, and not fighting back for the ball. I hope you are right, but something was up and it wasn’t just the change in OC. I’m crossing my fingers for injury that he can recover from. Maybe injury but more likely Brady game plan to move the ball around. Speed seems fine - he had JReid beat on the bomb he dropped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) I still cannot believe that Stefon Diggs dropped this pass. I know… he’s human and all players make mistakes. That being said your best player can’t make that mistake in that moment. You can’t be a highly paid, #1 WR, team captain, throw the antics he did last season including berating your QB on the sideline and …drop that pass. This isn’t a week 4 game against the Dolphins… this is the NFL Playoffs, against the SB champions, the team that ended the Bills season twice. The team he famously cried while watching them celebrate. I think it’s reasonable to expect your best player to make that play. Catching this pass hardly guaranteed a victory with 8:00 left but setting the Bills up at the 25 yard line would have been a huge momentum boost for the Bills. It could have almost been like the Harty punt return TD from a few weeks ago. I also think this catch could have changed the narrative surrounding Diggs potentially on the decline and a history of bad performances against Kansas City. It also would have erased the drop and fumble from earlier in the game. Instead of adding this play to his career highlights alongside the Minneapolis Miracle, it now lives in infamy as “the drop” that will likely follow his otherwise stellar career in Buffalo. The narrative is no longer, why doesn’t Buffalo get the ball to Stef in big playoff games. It now becomes why does Stef deliver in big playoff games. And the pass, it was perhaps one of the most beautiful balls we’ve seen travel nearly 70 yards on target. There’s maybe one other QB that could make that throw, and he was on the visitors sideline. When you consider the difficulty of the throw, the ease of the catch, the moment, the opponent, the history, the game, the potential legacy lost, it is - in my opinion - the biggest drop in Buffalo Bills history. Recency bias? Maybe. But maybe not. Some other drops I’ve lived through and why I place them under this one heartbreak. Ronnie Harmon - Bills vs. Cleveland 1989 Playoffs On paper this drop was bigger. It was a catch in the end zone for the GW TD with :13 remaining. The difference is the player. Harmon had a history of choking in big moments on college. While he was a well-known player in the NFL, Harmon was never considered an elite superstar the way Diggs has been. Also I’ve read that in 1989 this was considered a “difficult” catch, despite it looking routine with 2024 eyes. Stevie Johnson - Bills vs. Pittsburgh 2010 This also was a GW TD drop that would have been a nice story in 2010 for the underdog Bills led by Fitz. However the stakes weren’t very high. This catch would be a fun moment but ultimately I don’t think it would have much impact on a 2 win team. Plus the drop create the Bills Mafia moniker. Charles Clay - Bills vs. Miami 2018 With the Bills trailing 27-21, Josh makes an amazing throw on the run to throw a ball 40 yards across his body to Charles Clay who proceeds to drop the game winner. While this wasn’t an easy catch, it was far from impossible. Much like Diggs, Clay was the biggest receiving target on the team and one of the highest paid players on offense. Your best players need to step up at key moments and Clay failed. But much like the Stevie drop, this game wouldn’t have much impact on a losing season. Theres a couple others I can think of but nothing as big or high profile as these ones. Also my Bills memory only goes back to be about 1988 or so. Any other devastating drops? And where would you rank them? Edited January 24 by JohnNord 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakout Squad Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) The drop itself compared to the others you referenced was the least egregious. The Harmon drop was bad. BUT I’d argue the Diggs drop was painful to another level. They pay him to make those plays and he dropped it. He had drops and fumbled the first catch… Diggs was more responsible for us losing than Bass. And shame on the people that harassed Bass on social media! Edited January 24 by Breakout Squad 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
since79 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) Ronnie Harmon…..To go to SuperBowl Edited January 24 by since79 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 The world needed this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 5 minutes ago, Breakout Squad said: The drop itself compared to the others you referenced was the least egregious. The Harmon drop was bad. BUT I’d argue the Diggs drop was painful to another level. They pay him to make those plays and he dropped it. He had drops and fumbled the first catch… Diggs was more responsible for us losing than Bass. And shame on the people that harassed Bass on social media! I’m not so sure about that. The ball traveled 60+ yards and hit Diggs in the hands. He didn’t have to extend like Harmon or come back to the football like Clay. The only ball that easier might have been Stevie’s. But the rest, I’d agree with 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st pete gogolak Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 You’re right that it wasn’t a significant game but if Clay makes the catch, that play would have been a candidate for play of the year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 I watched the Harmon drop and I can remember being furious when I saw it but I hit the roof after they failed the next play. I had to rewind my VCR to watch again later and still could not believe he dropped it. Because of the magnitude of that drop and when it was in the game, that has to be the worst drop when it comes to losing a game outright. Diggs was bad but nowhere near Harmon's drop as there was still time. But Diggs has to make that catch. The Bills lost Sunday because they didnt make the hard but doable catches, 0/4 on those passes and the Chiefs did. The Stevie drop was almost comical and Stevie blamed God for it after! The Clay drop was par for the course for that useless lump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Harmon’s was worse and it’s not even close. In the endzone to win the game. That drop is much worse than Diggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 No. That goes to Ronnie Harmon and it's not close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bklnpete Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 On 1/22/2024 at 5:47 AM, Meatloaf63 said: Not so ridiculous anymore is it? Oh my god! The horror! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 21 hours ago, John from Riverside said: I still believe he was injured and it’s going to come out Cool.. He showed up Allen last year when Josh played through the UCL injury Allen once again played through a shoulder injury this year Part of being elite is still being able to function at a high level through injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, Breakout Squad said: The drop itself compared to the others you referenced was the least egregious. The Harmon drop was bad. BUT I’d argue the Diggs drop was painful to another level. They pay him to make those plays and he dropped it. He had drops and fumbled the first catch… Diggs was more responsible for us losing than Bass. And shame on the people that harassed Bass on social media! What? The Harmon drop cost the Bills the game. Diggs drop didn't, they got down to the same position as they would have been at if Diggs caught it and some would argue at the two minute warning, which might have been better in terms of being able to bleed the clock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 21 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: I posted this in another thread, but you guys know he was still near the top of the league in everything this year, despite having a poor year by his standards, right? He could easily have 2-3 more Top 5-7 years in him with the right gameplan Please define "near the top of the league" - top 10? top 15? 67th? 48th? 72nd? Which I guess raises the question "what do you mean by everything"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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