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RunTheBall Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 hour ago, newcam2012 said: I agree in the short term. It was an unlikely outcome of success. However, the Bills should have never been in that predictiment. So it cuts both ways here. McD deserves blame and credit. I think a lot depends on what happens this Sunday. A loss will likely cause many Bills fans to be disappointed with McD. Similar to what Dallas and Pitt fans are saying and feeling about McCarthy and Tomlin. A win vs KC and an AFC championship game is likely seen as a successful season win or lose. After the Denver loss I was off the McD train. After 13 seconds I couldn’t contemplate having 12 men on the field that cost us the game. After the last 6 games I’m firmly back on (I never thought he would be fired even at 6-6) McD should be up for coach of the year. He took a team that was floundering mid season at 6-6 and took a tremendous PR shot from the Dunn hit piece then completely turned the team around mid season. He’s showed tremendous growth which he always preaches. More aggressive defense, better game management especially on 4th down, and better challenge success. After the loss of Tre/Milano/Jones the D took a while to find its footing yet finished STRONG with backups to the backups making plays. The offense was struggling and he fired the OC mid season which couldn’t have been easy and installed a guy who turned it around. Yeah, you can say he deserves some of the blame for Dorsey but give me a break. Last year guys on here were worried he’d be poached for a HC gig. This team is tough, gritty, battle hardened, and peaking at the right time ( as opposed to last year where they peaked early and limped into the playoffs) I don’t think the result of this coming game diminishes in any way what McD has accomplished this season. Yeah, we need to get the monkey off our back but there are so many variables that go into one game, that doesn’t discount the previous 6 that saved the season and won us the division. Sure if we get blown out or there’s another 13 second coaching blunder that’s going to be an issue, but to lose to KC in a tight game will suck but not be an indictment on the coach. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 minute ago, Einstein said: it's really not talked about enough how cray Allen's 15 rush TD's are + the huge one in Wild Card. Unlike Hurts, a lot of those are actual runs and not QB sneaks. Super impressive 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills742 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 3 minutes ago, Einstein said: Interesting choice of photo for Mahomes. 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 6 hours ago, boyst said: historically they've beat us when it matters - that's why it matters. did you know at the beginning of the 1993 season the Bills beat the Cowboys in a defensive slugfest??? Does anyone care or remember that? We got pantsed by them just 3 games before and held them to a 13-10 win for us? I guess that rewrites the '93 and '94 Super Bowl because we beat them. Thats all that will matter to anyone until we beat them when it counts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 hour ago, newcam2012 said: Do you really want to go there? Then talk about coach McD. Does your premise still apply? Allen hasn't even sniffed a SB despite his play. Does your premise still apply? Like I stated before, you can't ignore changes that have been made. The Ravens have improved their offense and are more diversifed. The chances of Lamar being successful have greatly improved. Stop digging your hole. You have a habit of saying a bunch of crap and then not owning it after it is shown on the field to be false. If Lamar sucks again this week, you gonna run and hide again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 minute ago, Jauronimo said: Thats all that will matter to anyone until we beat them when it counts. Yeah, what will matter to anyone is when it counts we beat them when it matters, specially when it counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 10 minutes ago, bills742 said: Interesting choice of photo for Mahomes. Agreed. Why they make him look like the Hefty Lefty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 41 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: People underestimate the talent KC has. No it's not like when they had Hill but Rice is really good. Pacheco is really good. Kelce has lost a bit of a step but is still really good. Of course there is Mahomes too. Mahomes also has the ability to take off with the ball differently than Josh but just as effective and demoralizing. This is going to be a good battle. Hopefully the Bills come out on top this time. I don't think it's possible to underestimate how good the team that's bounced you from the playoffs twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 minute ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: I don't think it's possible to underestimate how good the team that's bounced you from the playoffs twice. Yet people all season said Mahomes has no one other than Kelce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 So unless I'm missing something sounds like today's practice report is not promising and no change on any of the key guys from yesterday? Obviously given the 'win or go home' playoff circumstances a lot of these guys can still go on Sunday even if they are DNP all week, but McD would be rolling the dice either way in terms of risking further injury for guys that aren't close to 100%, or thinking they can beat a team like the Chiefs without them. A true double edged sword at play and I don't envy this coaching staff at all given the tough decisions that lie ahead... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90sBills Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 22 hours ago, finn said: I haven't heard a single commentator point out that maybe, just maybe, Mahomes did as well as he did in his career because he was throwing to two future HOF receivers. TWO! And his down year (relatively speaking) may be how he performs when he has the same quality receivers most of his peers have. He's terrific, but hardly the Messiah Who Must Not Be Criticized. Not having Hill really hurt him and KC last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Cheney Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Just now, 90sBills said: Not having Hill really hurt him and KC last year. This year as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 5 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: So unless I'm missing something sounds like today's practice report is not promising and no change on any of the key guys from yesterday? Obviously given the 'win or go home' playoff circumstances a lot of these guys can still go on Sunday even if they are DNP all week, but McD would be rolling the dice either way in terms of risking further injury for guys that aren't close to 100%, or thinking they can beat a team like the Chiefs without them. A true double edged sword at play and I don't envy this coaching staff at all given the tough decisions that lie ahead... I guess we should just get into our fear bunker now and just let the tornado sweep us away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1onemangang7 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 (edited) 19 hours ago, TH3 said: Why is it the only people who discount Cook all the time are….posters in this forum? Dude has completed the offense….and yet….people got make themselves feel smart by discounting him…..smh. oh, well glad you asked. Cause there has been 57 super bowls and not one has been won by a running quarterback. Josh Allen running is the Bills identity because the brain trust hasnt given him a runner to compliment him. Need a big play?, Josh's legs...short yardage? All Josh. Best runner on the team, Josh Allen. Maybe after the Dallas game Cook caught a little attention from opposing coordinators. Usually he's ignored and will spurt a few before a couple negative plays that puts them behind the chains, and Josh is looked to for the bail out. 4th quarter to run the clock out? looks like Johnson won that job if the Pittsburgh game is any indicator. Idk why they just dont give him the lions share of the carries during the game. Bottom line a running quarterback only gets you so far as determined by the history of the NFL. Edited January 18 by 1onemangang7 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 3 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: I guess we should just get into our fear bunker now and just let the tornado sweep us away. Sadly I've been there since the Chiefs manhandled the Dolphins Saturday night.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Yet people all season said Mahomes has no one other than Kelce. Were these the people who were rejoicing when Pacheco was out against the Bills the first time? When we say this is the least talented cast Mahomes has had to work with. In 2020, Sammy Watkins was their 3rd receiver behind Tyreek Hill and with a fresh Clyde Edwards Helare just drafted. 2021 had Hill, Hardman and Pringle. 2022 swapped the cast for Juju, Toney and MVS (which people considered a downgrade). Then they lost Juju. Rasheed Rice has come along, but MVS has had a pattern of clutch drops and Toney was notorious for boneheaded plays (like the Offside) which is why the Giants dealt him on the cheap. I would take facing this Chiefs receiving corps over 2020 and 2021 10/10 and 11 on Sunday. EDIT: I forgot having Jeremy Maclin early in his career. It's not that Rice, MVS and Toney are benchwarmers. It's that compared to 2 HOF players they don't shine in comparison Edited January 18 by WhitewalkerInPhilly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted January 18 Author Share Posted January 18 Twitter thread by NFL: Tweet 1 and 2: Tweets 3 and 4: Tweets 5 and 6: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 3 minutes ago, chongli said: It seems convenient that all of those use the same metric of winning the AFC championship. Curious that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sestak4ever Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 10 minutes ago, 1onemangang7 said: oh, well glad you asked. Cause there has been 57 super bowls and not one has been won by a running quarterback. Josh Allen running is the Bills identity because the brain trust hasnt given him a runner to compliment him. Need a big play?, Josh's legs...short yardage? All Josh. Best runner on the team, Josh Allen. Maybe after the Dallas game Cook caught a little attention from opposing coordinators. Usually he's ignored and will spurt a few before a couple negative plays that puts them behind the chains, and Josh is looked to for the bail out. 4th quarter to run the clock out? looks like Johnson won that job if the Pittsburgh game is any indicator. Idk why they just dont give him the lions share of the carries during the game. Bottom line a running quarterback only gets you so far as determined by the history of the NFL. Steve Young was a really great running quarterback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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