Logic Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 5 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 What's his total TD number? And how many does the runner up have? Anyone know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Check StatMuse. Allen, Mahomes, and then Marino as far as total passing and rushing TD's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Project 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Now make it culminate into his first SB Championship. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 I think 24 more total TDs and he will have the most combined TDs in Bills history. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) Noticed the time on the game clock when we took the lead. Maybe it's a sign. Edited January 9 by Peace Frog 9 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisWatson#21 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 2 hours ago, Wizard said: Check StatMuse. Allen, Mahomes, and then Marino as far as total passing and rushing TD's. don't forget his Touchdown reception now and if it includes playoffs he also has another one🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) 2 hours ago, Logic said: Not the great, cerebral Peyton Manning?? This stat needs to be sent to Greeny for Get Up!!😎 Edited January 9 by Solomon Grundy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) First, it is a great accomplishment. It really is. Peyton's first four years: 111 TDs and 81 INTs (a 1.37 TD:INT ratio) Peyton's fifth and sixth years together: 56 TDs and 29 INTs (a 1.93 TD:INT ratio) Peyton's TD percentage the first four years: 4.9% Peyton's TD percentage years 5 & 6: 4.8% Peyton's INT percentage the first four years: 3.6% Peyton's INT percentage in years 5 & 6: 2.5% What you see there is that after his fourth year, his TD percentage stayed much the same while his INT percentage dropped. A lot. Josh's first four years: 103 TDs and 46 INTs (a 2.2 TD:INT ratio) Josh's 5th & 6th years: 64 TDs and 32 INTs (a 2.0 TD:INT ratio) Josh's TD percentage the first four years: 5.2% Josh's TD percentage years 5 & 6: 5.6% Josh's INT percentage the first four years: 2.3% Josh's INT percentage in years 5 & 6: 2.7% Josh's TD percentage went up a bit. But unlike Peyton, his INT percentage also went up. And between year 5 and year 6 it again went up, from 2.5 to 3.1. Two of Josh's three worst years in INT % are this year and last year. The other, the highest at 3.8%, was his rookie year. This year, Josh was 30th best in INT %. Last year, 24th best. How does Peyton compare? In his 5th year he has an INT percentage he was 21st best, pretty close to Josh's 24th. In his 6th year, it drops radically, a vast improvement, all the way up to 4th best in the league. And it wasn't a temporary change. Peyton never again got even close to his 5th year status. His INTs dropped a bunch. He never again had years as bad in INTs as those early years including year 5, or at least not until his very last year when he'd lost all his velocity and his balls seemed to hang in the air a long time. I'm hoping that this year is a bit of an outlier for Josh. Which is absolutely possible. Even with the INTs, Josh is still one of the best QBs in the league. We're lucky to have him. Having said that, are the INTs a very real problem? Yeah, they are. Anyway, it really is great for a QB to be compared to Peyton Manning in nearly anything. It's a cool stat, and the TD stats are fantastic. Again, we're lucky to have him. Edited January 9 by Thurman#1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsatlastin2018 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Season Update to 17s All Time QB #s. TD Passes # 78 with 167 Jim Kelly is #33 with 237 Mahomes is #39 with 219 Passing Yards # 97 with 22,703 Mahomes #65 with 28,424 QB Rushing TDs #2 with 53 behind Cam Newton with 75 Allen is btw # 73 for ALL Players And now the Playoffs TD Passes Currently at #25 with 17. With a modest Lombardi run of 10 TDs, he will tie John Elway at #12 with 27. Other current: #8 Mahomes with 35 # 13 Flacco with 25 Passing Yards #27 with 2334 Mahomes # 10 with 4084 Flacco # 18 with 3223 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Through his first 6 seasons, no NFL players has more records that end with "in history" than Josh Allen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Butbutbut.....turnover machine..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 9 hours ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said: Project Thank goodness he looked so good in shorts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 He’s trash. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Didn't he set this new record like 6 or 7 weeks ago? At his rate, if he can continue to be the ironman at the position, he'll be setting the "10th season" record before the end of his 9th season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Meh…. He’s really not all that good. Heard it on the board ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) 2 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: First, it is a great accomplishment. It really is. Peyton's first four years: 111 TDs and 81 INTs (a 1.37 TD:INT ratio) Peyton's fifth and sixth years together: 56 TDs and 29 INTs (a 1.93 TD:INT ratio) Peyton's TD percentage the first four years: 4.9% Peyton's TD percentage years 5 & 6: 4.8% Peyton's INT percentage the first four years: 3.6% Peyton's INT percentage in years 5 & 6: 2.5% What you see there is that after his fourth year, his TD percentage stayed much the same while his INT percentage dropped. A lot. Josh's first four years: 103 TDs and 46 INTs (a 2.2 TD:INT ratio) Josh's 5th & 6th years: 64 TDs and 32 INTs (a 2.0 TD:INT ratio) Josh's TD percentage the first four years: 5.2% Josh's TD percentage years 5 & 6: 5.6% Josh's INT percentage the first four years: 2.3% Josh's INT percentage in years 5 & 6: 2.7% Josh's TD percentage went up a bit. But unlike Peyton, his INT percentage also went up. And between year 5 and year 6 it again went up, from 2.5 to 3.1. Two of Josh's three worst years in INT % are this year and last year. The other, the highest at 3.8%, was his rookie year. This year, Josh was 30th best in INT %. Last year, 24th best. How does Peyton compare? In his 5th year he has an INT percentage he was 21st best, pretty close to Josh's 24th. In his 6th year, it drops radically, a vast improvement, all the way up to 4th best in the league. And it wasn't a temporary change. Peyton never again got even close to his 5th year status. His INTs dropped a bunch. He never again had years as bad in INTs as those early years including year 5, or at least not until his very last year when he'd lost all his velocity and his balls seemed to hang in the air a long time. I'm hoping that this year is a bit of an outlier for Josh. Which is absolutely possible. Even with the INTs, Josh is still one of the best QBs in the league. We're lucky to have him. Having said that, are the INTs a very real problem? Yeah, they are. Anyway, it really is great for a QB to be compared to Peyton Manning in nearly anything. It's a cool stat, and the TD stats are fantastic. Again, we're lucky to have him. Allen has probably the worst INT luck of any QB I have ever seen. Also has at least 3 this year that were basically punts and caused the other team to start inside their own 10 rather than at their 40 if he threw incomplete. Those are actually smart plays that look bad on the stat sheet. Spectacular over the shoulder INT needed? No problem. Diving INT? No problem. The next week you watch the same player get a ball thrown right to them and drop it or dive and the ball hits the ground. Have seen so many INTs get overturned on replay by other QBs this year. Has Allen ever had any INT overturned? Edited January 9 by Big Turk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 2 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Allen has probably the worst INT luck of any QB I have ever seen. Spectacular over the shoulder INT needed? No problem. Diving INT? No problem. The next week you watch the same player get a ball thrown right to them and drop it or dive and the ball hits the ground. Have seen so many INTs get overturned by other QBs this year. Has Allen ever had any INT overturned? Odds say it will turn around. There's another thread showing the data on Gabe Davis throws resulting in an unusually high clip of interceptions. The man has a Zay Jones negative force field. Let me put it like this, when's the last time a negative Josh Allen narrative lasted more than 1 or 2 seasons? Why would "too many turnovers" be here to stay? As his supporting cast improves, so does Allen. Don't blame one man for the faults of the larger ecosystem he is in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 (edited) 2 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: First, it is a great accomplishment. It really is. Peyton's first four years: 111 TDs and 81 INTs (a 1.37 TD:INT ratio) Peyton's fifth and sixth years together: 56 TDs and 29 INTs (a 1.93 TD:INT ratio) Peyton's TD percentage the first four years: 4.9% Peyton's TD percentage years 5 & 6: 4.8% Peyton's INT percentage the first four years: 3.6% Peyton's INT percentage in years 5 & 6: 2.5% What you see there is that after his fourth year, his TD percentage stayed much the same while his INT percentage dropped. A lot. Josh's first four years: 103 TDs and 46 INTs (a 2.2 TD:INT ratio) Josh's 5th & 6th years: 64 TDs and 32 INTs (a 2.0 TD:INT ratio) Josh's TD percentage the first four years: 5.2% Josh's TD percentage years 5 & 6: 5.6% Josh's INT percentage the first four years: 2.3% Josh's INT percentage in years 5 & 6: 2.7% Josh's TD percentage went up a bit. But unlike Peyton, his INT percentage also went up. And between year 5 and year 6 it again went up, from 2.5 to 3.1. Two of Josh's three worst years in INT % are this year and last year. The other, the highest at 3.8%, was his rookie year. This year, Josh was 30th best in INT %. Last year, 24th best. How does Peyton compare? In his 5th year he has an INT percentage he was 21st best, pretty close to Josh's 24th. In his 6th year, it drops radically, a vast improvement, all the way up to 4th best in the league. And it wasn't a temporary change. Peyton never again got even close to his 5th year status. His INTs dropped a bunch. He never again had years as bad in INTs as those early years including year 5, or at least not until his very last year when he'd lost all his velocity and his balls seemed to hang in the air a long time. I'm hoping that this year is a bit of an outlier for Josh. Which is absolutely possible. Even with the INTs, Josh is still one of the best QBs in the league. We're lucky to have him. Having said that, are the INTs a very real problem? Yeah, they are. Anyway, it really is great for a QB to be compared to Peyton Manning in nearly anything. It's a cool stat, and the TD stats are fantastic. Again, we're lucky to have him. Thanks for this post. You're not wrong that the INTs are a problem that Josh needs to get under control going forward. That said, this season, the EPA lost by Josh Allen's INTs was a lot less than many other QBs, meaning he's throwing less "bad" INTs, or that the interceptions he throws are, relatively speaking, "less harmful". Furthermore, the overall aggressiveness and explosiveness of Josh Allen, I think, will always come with higher interception numbers than most. You take the bad with the good because, on the whole, it equals a more dangerous and productive QB and a higher scoring team, even WITH the turnovers. And ultimately, not all turnovers are created equally. Again, you're not wrong. I just want to put what you're saying into context. A few numbers to illustrate this point. "Josh Allen has lost less value to negative plays than any QB in the NFL" in 2023. Edited January 9 by Logic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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