BBFL Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, billsbackto81 said: Can someone please explain to me what the obsession with Jim Harbaugh is on this board? They just want the scandals man… Deflects interest away from any blundering coaching decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JROC INTEL Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Woah i’m here to slow the roll on Brady. Give him the keys? They guy has only been OC for two games 😅. Don’t get me wrong he’s been almost flawless but let’s be real. We need more data. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: LOL, just admit that you were wrong about him. He’s awful. His team scores 8.5 points more than every team that they play and win half of the time!! That’s an incredible level of failure from McDermott. They beat up on bad teams. That just makes them frauds, not that the coach is horrific. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baba Booey Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 34 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said: No. He’s the easy scapegoat. The next man up in the blame game. Our losses are by 6, 5, 4, 6, 2, 3. I don’t think a new HC gets you over that hump. Players are put in a position to win week in and week out. We shouldn’t take that for granted. Kneeling with 20 seconds to go with one timeout should get you fired alone!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 27, 2023 Author Share Posted November 27, 2023 Just now, JROC INTEL said: Woah i’m here to slow the roll on Brady. Give him the keys? They guy has only been OC for two games 😅. Don’t get me wrong he’s been almost flawless but let’s be real. We need more data. No, you just need to be right. He looked like the best offensive mind in football in 2019. It isn’t about resume, it’s about being right. McDaniel didn’t have a long resume and looks like a great coach. The same goes for Dan Campbell. I don’t care what some HAS done, I care what they WILL do with Josh Allen. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeParrish Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: LOL, just admit that you were wrong about him. He’s awful. His team scores 8.5 points more than every team that they play and win half of the time!! That’s an incredible level of failure from McDermott. You are wrong and will be crying for McD to come back (if Pegula buys into the people that don't know ball narrative). We have the 4th most wins in the NFL since 2017. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 27, 2023 Author Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, FireChans said: They beat up on bad teams. That just makes them frauds, not that the coach is horrific. Not really. They’ve lost to the Jets, Pats and Broncos. They could have lost to the Giants. When the game gets close, this coach fails. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, JROC INTEL said: Woah i’m here to slow the roll on Brady. Give him the keys? They guy has only been OC for two games 😅. Don’t get me wrong he’s been almost flawless but let’s be real. We need more data. Season is done anyways. Why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeParrish Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Best coach we've ever had? Based on what? We have a guy who in the Hall of Fame and led the team to 4 straight Super Bowls. Whose better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 42 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: If it doesn’t work, I’d probably hire Bobby Slowik. Ben Johnson would be my 2nd option. Yeah these are the no brainer options for sure. I like Brady, he's been better than Dorsey in his short audition, but he isn't an innovator like the guys you mentioned. I'll lose no sleep moving on from him in exchange for an offensive head coach. Recent teams that went from floundering to becoming Super Bowl caliber all followed the same formula - hire an up and coming offensive wunderkind and figure out the rest. Rams, 49ers, Dolphins, Eagles. That was their formula. Best part is we already have the QB so the rest is easy. Unfortunately I think Beane has to go too. Let the new head coach choose someone that will find him next level offensive players to put around the elite QB. I like Beane overall, he represents the franchise well. But too many strikeouts in free agency and he failed to build around Allen. Whether he's more responsible or McDermott is I think you just need to start fresh from top to bottom. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocbillsfan1 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Just now, RoscoeParrish said: You are wrong and will be crying for McD to come back (if Pegula buys into the people that don't know ball narrative). We have the 4th most wins in the NFL since 2017. Who freaking cares. We have wins because we have Josh Allen. This guy obviously couldn’t get it done after years of trying. There is 0 downside to firing him if you aren’t a loser. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 27, 2023 Author Share Posted November 27, 2023 Just now, RoscoeParrish said: You are wrong and will be crying for McD to come back (if Pegula buys into the people that don't know ball narrative). We have the 4th most wins in the NFL since 2017. No. I won’t cry. He loses close games. He has talent. In 1 score games, he loses 2 out of 3 (despite his win percentage). He’s a bottom 5 coach. He’s the reason for 6-6. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JROC INTEL Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: No, you just need to be right. He looked like the best offensive mind in football in 2019. It isn’t about resume, it’s about being right. McDaniel didn’t have a long resume and looks like a great coach. The same goes for Dan Campbell. I don’t care what some HAS done, I care what they WILL do with Josh Allen. I get that, and you may be right. But how is he to compete with weathered veterans like andy reid. Don’t we want someone with a little more experience? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocbillsfan1 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: Not really. They’ve lost to the Jets, Pats and Broncos. They could have lost to the Giants. When the game gets close, this coach fails. McDermott tried to lose the Tampa game too don’t forget. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, NoSaint said: the only way we can promise our coach doesn’t have that ability is standing pat. will the next guy be better? Maybe. And that’s all that matters until we find the right one. it’s just exhausting to be on the coaching carousel, and all of us have been through it so many times. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeParrish Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Just now, Kirby Jackson said: No. I won’t cry. He loses close games. He has talent. In 1 score games, he loses 2 out of 3 (despite his win percentage). He’s a bottom 5 coach. He’s the reason for 6-6. Or he’s the reason we won last week and were even in the game today for taking a stance and firing our franchise QBs buddy and OC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JROC INTEL Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: Season is done anyways. Why not? I’m nervous about hiring a guy with no experience. Not saying it can’t work, but there would most likely be years of growing pains 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 40 minutes ago, McBean said: Jim. Harbaugh. Absolute no brainer. Do you want to play 1940's style football with Josh Allen on your team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeParrish Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Rocbillsfan1 said: Who freaking cares. We have wins because we have Josh Allen. This guy obviously couldn’t get it done after years of trying. There is 0 downside to firing him if you aren’t a loser. We have won plenty of games solely because of McD’s defense in his tenure. Short term memory. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 31 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: McDermott sure put the Iggles kicker into position to be successful with that TO. Instead of having to rush on a sloppy field he got to take his time and set up. Ridiculous. My wife and even my 18 yo daughter recognized how dumb it was. Plus that TO would come in handy with 20 seconds left and only 40 yards to a FG. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said: Whose better? Than Marv Levy? Nobody yet. If McDermott retires today is he a HOF candidate? I think that's an obvious answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, BBFL said: Interesting list. Waldron is probably the best out of those 3. I won’t say they are my top three but each have interesting pedigrees to add to the traditional list. Waldron is an interesting candidate having turned around geno, and having background with Mcvay and bill b. Seems to have some nifty scheme wrinkles in recaps I see about Seattle. I don’t watch a ton of their games but enough to be curious 1 minute ago, RoscoeParrish said: We have won plenty of games solely because of McD’s defense in his tenure. Short term memory. Not enough 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Bud Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) Jim Harbaugh Edited November 27, 2023 by Bills Bud 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeParrish Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Just now, TheFunPolice said: Than Marv Levy? Nobody yet. If McDermott retires today is he a HOF candidate? I think that's an obvious answer. I won’t get into the Marv vs. McD debate. My point was he is one of the best HC’s this losing franchise has ever had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, JROC INTEL said: I’m nervous about hiring a guy with no experience. Not saying it can’t work, but there would most likely be years of growing pains Nervous about what? Not winning against the Cowboys in a couple weeks in a lost season? I dont think anyone is saying to make it a multi-year deal. But might as well make him interim now and see how it goes. McD's already blown the year. Just now, RoscoeParrish said: I won’t get into the Marv vs. McD debate. My point was he is one of the best HC’s this losing franchise has ever had. Two losers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JROC INTEL Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: Nervous about what? Not winning against the Cowboys in a couple weeks in a lost season? I dont think anyone is saying to make it a multi-year deal. But might as well make him interim now and see how it goes. McD's already blown the year. Ok you’ve convinced me. I’m saying he could win out this year and still doom us next year bc he see’s situations he hasn’t before through lack of experience as a HC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 27, 2023 Author Share Posted November 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, JROC INTEL said: I get that, and you may be right. But how is he to compete with weathered veterans like andy reid. Don’t we want someone with a little more experience? Don’t care. I want a guy that is aggressive and attacks. I want someone that puts the ball in Josh Allen’s hands and gets out of the way. McDermott is a loser and the stats all support it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeParrish Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Nervous about what? Not winning against the Cowboys in a couple weeks in a lost season? I dont think anyone is saying to make it a multi-year deal. But might as well make him interim now and see how it goes. McD's already blown the year. Two losers. 4th most wins in the NFL since he took over. That ain’t a loser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Yeah these are the no brainer options for sure. I like Brady, he's been better than Dorsey in his short audition, but he isn't an innovator like the guys you mentioned. I'll lose no sleep moving on from him in exchange for an offensive head coach. Recent teams that went from floundering to becoming Super Bowl caliber all followed the same formula - hire an up and coming offensive wunderkind and figure out the rest. Rams, 49ers, Dolphins, Eagles. That was their formula. Best part is we already have the QB so the rest is easy. Unfortunately I think Beane has to go too. Let the new head coach choose someone that will find him next level offensive players to put around the elite QB. I like Beane overall, he represents the franchise well. But too many strikeouts in free agency and he failed to build around Allen. Whether he's more responsible or McDermott is I think you just need to start fresh from top to bottom. brady got a bit tarnished in his last stop but not long ago he was very much in the list of innovative young guys. he’s not top of the list but he’s worth discussion probably. That he’s in house already might be his biggest knock if trying to turn the page cleanly but I’d have to wrestle with that a bit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 27, 2023 Author Share Posted November 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said: Or he’s the reason we won last week and were even in the game today for taking a stance and firing our franchise QBs buddy and OC. Lol, you’re comparing him to guys that had Jeff Tuel, Brian Brohm and Trent Edwards at QB. McDermott STINKS. He must go. McDermott: Overall record: 68-41 or 62.4% One score games: 28-26 or 51.2% In overtime games: 1-6 or 14.3% and he hasn't won one since 2017. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, RoscoeParrish said: 4th most wins in the NFL since he took over. That ain’t a loser. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 McDermott and Beane have to go (they won’t). This regime is shot. There’s a soft underbelly in both the approach and roster construction. They’ll always be good enough to not get blown out in the big games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said: 4th most wins in the NFL since he took over. That ain’t a loser. I didnt realize the team plane had such good wifi, Sean. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: it’s just exhausting to be on the coaching carousel, and all of us have been through it so many times. I’ve got news: even more exhausting is having the wrong coach waste years. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleAndHungry Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Sean Mcvay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) Winners know how to close out games when your superstar QB leaves the field for the final time with the lead. I don't care how many Ints Josh throws or how many fumbles he loses or how many over throws he tosses. If he leaves the field with the lead, he's the reason you're winning. If there's less than 2 minutes left you better get him the W if you're this so called defensive guru. So sick of watching these teams, most of them bad to mediocre just chip away at his prevent bend and break defensive schemes for the winning scores. Good coaches put their players in position to win, not play not to lose. Edited November 27, 2023 by billsbackto81 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeParrish Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Lol, you’re comparing him to guys that had Jeff Tuel, Brian Brohm and Trent Edwards at QB. McDermott STINKS. He must go. McDermott: Overall record: 68-41 or 62.4% One score games: 28-26 or 51.2% In overtime games: 1-6 or 14.3% and he hasn't won one since 2017. I don’t disagree this team needs to be better in close/OT games. I just don’t think firing the HC is the answer. Edited November 27, 2023 by RoscoeParrish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLinALLEN Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 I called into WGR tonight so that shows I want anyone but McD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JROC INTEL Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Nervous about what? Not winning against the Cowboys in a couple weeks in a lost season? I dont think anyone is saying to make it a multi-year deal. But might as well make him interim now and see how it goes. McD's already blown the year. Two losers. Why am I a loser for wanting someone with experience like a jim Harb over a guy who had been our oc for two games? Edited November 27, 2023 by JROC INTEL 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeParrish Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: I didnt realize the team plane had such good wifi, Sean. Statistics cut too deep for you, Doc? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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