mrags Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 38 minutes ago, Einstein said: Yep. I did an entire analysis on the topic. Here it is: https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/248039-how-long-does-it-take-an-nfl-head-coach-to-reach-his-1st-super-bowl/ Only 5 coaches in 40 years. Ugh. the link I was referring to was something about coaches and QBs. Something like if it’s not done within the first 5 years of being together has never Happened. I don’t remember the facts of it. So in that case someone’s gonna have to go. I’m sticking with Allen. McClappy can go. Unfortunately, I’m not sure it happens that way. I think McD is going to suck all the life out of Allen and he’s going to leave buffalo. Once he gets another year or maybe 2, he’ll be looking for a trade to a REAL Competitor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Josh actually said something in the last week or 2 about the need for him to stop showing his emotions so much. He said that was something he was really working on. Matt Parrino and Ryan Talbot on their Shout podcast said they've noticed a difference in the last few weeks. That could explain the stoicism. Maybe he took it too far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 1 minute ago, transplantbillsfan said: Josh actually said something in the last week or 2 about the need for him to stop showing his emotions so much. He said that was something he was really working on. Matt Parrino and Ryan Talbot on their Shout podcast said they've noticed a difference in the last few weeks. That could explain the stoicism. Maybe he took it too far. So I’d imagine that McD sucked that part of life from him and Josh thinks he’s doing it the right way because his lame coach guided him that way. we need a QB that basically defies the coaches at this point. Just go rogue and do whatever he wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 58 minutes ago, billybob71 said: I think we are seeing the start of him not wanting to be in Buffalo and I wouldn't blame him really That I disagree with 1 hour ago, mrags said: In Kelly’s defense he was fueled by mounds and mounds of cocaine He was just trying to maintain a level playing field when playing against LT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Super Fan Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 35 minutes ago, zow2 said: Like Domenic Hasek did when he left the Sabres (with no Cup)… i will root for Josh to win a Super Bowl late in his career when he goes home and leads the 49ers to a SB win. I get it but after while you want Buffalo to actually win one for us Buffalo fans. I am tired of rooting for Bob McAdoo to get a ring with the Los Angeles Lakers. Dominik Hasek getting a ring with the Detroit Red Wings. Jack Eichel with the Vegas Golden Knights after a while it gets old and you ask yourself what the heck are our Buffalo sports organizations that we put trust and faith in are doing? I am at 99.9% blame ownership today weather it is there fault or not. And it is because of the just ridiculousness of the past 5 decades of missed field goals, no goals and bad officials calls for Buffalo sports teams. That is how you become like Buffalo Super Fan all the just stuff it builds up over time and you stuff it deep down inside and try to forget about it but it is always there how is Buffalo going to screw it up. You can only say golly gee wiz wait until next year for so long. Then add cities like Miami winning tons of majorchampionships that could care less about all there team’s winning 2 World Series, 2 Super Bowls, multiple NBA championships and NCAA championships in college football and here is Buffalo waiting and waiting. I had a hard time rooting for Sam Reinhart on the Florida (Miami) Panthers. I don’t feel warm and fuzzy inside with where he went Miami. Then the ease that the Vegas Golden Knights won a Stanley Cup in 6 years it is ridiculous it just adds to the ridiculous of our Buffalo sports teams failures. At some point rooting for former Buffalo players winning championships isn’t enough you want Buffalo to actually win one for us in Buffalo in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgg716 Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 2 hours ago, BillsPride12 said: Regarding Point #2) I commented on the same thing today watching with my buddies. I mentioned how I think Josh is far more athletically talented than Kelly ever was but you would never see Kelly sitting there, moping on the bench with a deer in the headlights look that is starting to become all too common with Allen lately. I don't get it, I'm not sure where the fire has gone They "coached" the fire right out of him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 1 hour ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: Ok … 63 years since your first game experience. Thought you meant 63 years on earth 😂 So you were the same age the last time the Bills won a championship when I was when the Pirates won the World Series, 6 years old. It's so frustrating not being able to remember much of the greatest moment in sports... most Bills fans are Yankees fans but no, not me, I'm a masochist! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMaster Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Dr.Sack said: I’m normally a firey guy who can be a bit negative. I have absolutely no problem with the effort today. To me it comes down to execution and we were just off in the first half on offense. Correct some issues and we will start winning. To me that involves less snaps for Knox and Davis and more 11 personnel. This team is regressing. They are now struggling to beat bad teams with bad QB's Correcting issues isn't something veteran teams that are supposed to be contenders are typically doing You're nuts if you think we are beating any team with a real coaching staff and a QB at this point. Playoffs are a longhsot at this point 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 3 hours ago, BillsPride12 said: Regarding Point #2) I commented on the same thing today watching with my buddies. I mentioned how I think Josh is far more athletically talented than Kelly ever was but you would never see Kelly sitting there, moping on the bench with a deer in the headlights look that is starting to become all too common with Allen lately. I don't get it, I'm not sure where the fire has gone He's got um the problem now Jay Z bragged about not having despite 99 other ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaBill Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 2 hours ago, ngbills said: My fear with Allen is that he has come to think that life is more than football. He is thinking about life after football. He is thinking about Monday through Saturday. Football is now just a paycheck. He has a to of $, has already overachieved, has his Hollywood girlfriend. Omg. What a hot take. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLieve85 Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 3 hours ago, oldmanfan said: In general I am more the optimistic type and don’t buy into the weekly nonsense doom and gloom that permeates the board. Don't agree with all of this (yes some) but appreciate the additional viewpoint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said: Josh actually said something in the last week or 2 about the need for him to stop showing his emotions so much. He said that was something he was really working on. Matt Parrino and Ryan Talbot on their Shout podcast said they've noticed a difference in the last few weeks. That could explain the stoicism. Maybe he took it too far. Talk about being in your own head. Yikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, zow2 said: For the record i think when they made it 22-17 or maybe it was 25-22 Josh came to the bench walking up and down was screaming hyping everyone up. So to say he was sitting like a deer in headlights is true for part of the game but not when the game was on the line. He was up and doing his part. They love the sad qb shot on network television…guarantee you he was pumping people up most of the game im sure he’s a bit frustrated this is 5 years now of hardly any pass pro. I’m sure he’s frustrated with himself for leaving plays out there too Edited October 23, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyo321 Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 When Josh started buying in to the whole Celebrity thing, he has not been the same at QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Prior to today, I was always concerned that maybe the Bills can’t win it all led by McDermott. I hate, absolutely hate, that I’m starting to wonder the same about Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 1 hour ago, BillsPride12 said: That I disagree with He was just trying to maintain a level playing field when playing against LT Oh. Is that why he tried one upping him with beating the crap out of his pregnant wife and cheating on her every weekend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsflyer12 Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, mrags said: Only 5 coaches in 40 years. Ugh. the link I was referring to was something about coaches and QBs. Something like if it’s not done within the first 5 years of being together has never Happened. I don’t remember the facts of it. So in that case someone’s gonna have to go. I’m sticking with Allen. McClappy can go. Unfortunately, I’m not sure it happens that way. I think McD is going to suck all the life out of Allen and he’s going to leave buffalo. Once he gets another year or maybe 2, he’ll be looking for a trade to a REAL Competitor. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-coaches-and-qbs-should-divorce-after-five-years-of-not-winning/ No coach/qb combo in NFL history won their 1st Super Bowl together after year 5 together, is the actual stat. The article is a few years old but the stat still continues till now. Edited October 23, 2023 by Billsflyer12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 11 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: guarantee you he was pumping people up most of the game Not likely. Honestly it’s not Allen’s style. Go to the stadium and watch the bench during the game and he mostly just chills. I don’t think he is super comfortable in the outwardly vocal leadership role (just a personality thing). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 3 hours ago, oldmanfan said: 2. Josh is loved by all, but something is going on with him. And it is not just him not running as much. Whether it is football or non-football related I don’t know. But I said to my wife today that he almost seemed disinterested during the game. And I was shocked to think that. The QB is a de facto team leader, and especially when a captain. I pooh poohed those the last few weeks saying he should not just sit by himself on the bench, but today I was struck by his attitude. Wasn’t doing anything to get the team going. Sadly, if I was asked right now whether Josh reminds me more of Kelly or Fergy, personality wise it would be Fergy. And I’m not sure that personality in a QB can win a championship regardless if physical talent. He needs to look inside himself and figure out his issues. No mention of Hailee yet? Huh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juno999 Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 40 minutes ago, BeastMaster said: This team is regressing. They are now struggling to beat bad teams with bad QB's Correcting issues isn't something veteran teams that are supposed to be contenders are typically doing You're nuts if you think we are beating any team with a real coaching staff and a QB at this point. Playoffs are a longhsot at this point I'm just looking for the next win. Whenever that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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