zow2 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, RunTheBall said: He hurt his shoulder in the pocket then launched into a LB with it during the scrum. I think he's going to be ok. Again, Josh running is an integral part of who he is and a huge threat DCs need to account for. He can scrambke when there is the opportunity and not get touched. He can run the power sweep and have minimal contact with all the fat boys in front. Josh can scramble and slide or go out of bounds 25 times in the game. That's fine with me. Just don't absorb unnecessary contact. Also, get rid of the ball in the pocket before getting hammered (when possible). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 1 hour ago, RunTheBall said: Dorsey needs to unleash Josh. We need a couple designed runs especially in the red zone. He's always better after a good run. Don't give me the "he's gonna get hurt" crap that's BS - he's getting hurt in the pocket. It's year friggin 6, the guy can slide or get OOB. Give him the encouragement to take off when there's green in front of him. I firmly believe a big part of our offensive problems is teams aren't worried about him running anymore. If we can see the hesitation then D coordinators absolutely do. Not with his shoulder hurting. Let Cook run it 20-25 times. Hopefully the shoulder injury doesn't affect his throwing and the Bills OL allows no sacks. Don't want to see Allen running at all this week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 48 minutes ago, Motorin' said: It's not broken, they need to do what they did in the second half when they dominated time of possession, ran the ball effectively from under center, maximized play action passing and scored TD's on 66% of their possessions. They just didn't employ any of the tactics that won them the three previous games during the Jags game or the Giants first half. They tried running the 2020 offense exclusively, and forget they don't have four legitimate receivers. They didn't this, they didn't that and you say it's not broken? They were shut out for 3 quarters Sunday against a garbage defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Nuncha said: They didn't this, they didn't that and you say it's not broken? They were shut out for 3 quarters Sunday against a garbage defense. Games like that happen sometimes. Look at the Chiefs. They only scored 19 points against a defense that gave up 70 to the Fins. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 48 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: The offense so broken it's 3rd in the league for points per game? inconsistent? Oh hell yes They scored 20 against Jags (ranked 20th yards allowed) and 14 against Giants (ranked 27th yards allowed). Impressive. The first half of both games - 7 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, arcane said: Allen runs are going to hit defenses a lot different when they start cropping up in big games and in January, after not being on tape all year. Exactly my thinking. Josh running will be far more effective when done sparingly, and in the right situation. For this week, however, I want him just not getting hit! I don’t have the time nor desire to look up each poster’s history, but in general, it seems half the board was consistently screaming for Josh to stop running and we needed a balanced offense. Now… Dorsey is trying to do just that and half the board is screaming…set Josh free and let him run! I just wonder is it the same posters flip flopping? Or did the one half quiet down and now the other half is vocal? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Watching a 15 yard Cook run doesn't have the same effect on the rest of the offense or defense as a Josh Allen 15 yard run does. You want excitement? Bring back CJ Spill'em for a two yard gain on thirty seven yards of juking and jiving. Plus the always thrilling question "Can he hold onto the ball?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Bills have a mini bye coming up after Pats and next Thursdays Bucs game plenty of time to think of something more creative then a shotgun draw and pitch for the run game maybe I don’t know try a reverse or jet sweep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 New product endorsement for 🌟MJ🏈10🌟 to shill for. 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Bills have a mini bye coming up after Pats and next Thursdays Bucs game plenty of time to think of something more creative then a shotgun draw and pitch for the run game maybe I don’t know try a reverse or jet sweep Gimmick plays can be fun but will never fix or be a staple of an offense. The Bills ran a huge variety of run plays against the giants, and were successful as soon as the players all executed their assignments on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cray51 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Jones is terrible Patriots offense wont score much against us. If the Bills can put up 17 or more, they win. I expect the Bills to run Murray and Cook quite a bit, and then bring PA with Josh's legs to finish the job. 30-13 Bills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, arcane said: Gimmick plays can be fun but will never fix or be a staple of an offense. The Bills ran a huge variety of run plays against the giants, and were successful as soon as the players all executed their assignments on them. No kidding executing a play that’s called great idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 2 hours ago, stuvian said: I would like to humiliate them I'll tell you what, I know I am getting ahead of myself here on the schedule, but after three straight tough games wherein we lost two of them I truly want to beat the living p***, I mean the absolutely living p*** out of the Jets. Tired of them. Enough. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 The Pats run against us during the drought was insanely lopsided. A run of dominance that is rare in sports. Pretty quietly, the Bills are moving to do the reverse of that, with the Pats only win in the last 7 games coming as a result of hurricane force winds. It's hard to imagine them beating us this year, and from the looks of it, they'll be starting from scratch (at least at QB) next year. Still a ways to go to match the record they had against us w/ Brady, but in the Allen era, I could see us having a similar lopsided record when all is said & done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 I truly believe that the London trip totally disjointed the offense for the Jags game and most of the Giants game. The offense was clicking, and then, BAM, the London trip. But the excuses have run out. Time for the O to get back on track and provide more answers than questions. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 25 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: I'll tell you what, I know I am getting ahead of myself here on the schedule, but after three straight tough games wherein we lost two of them I truly want to beat the living p***, I mean the absolutely living p*** out of the Jets. Tired of them. Enough. Which two of the last three games did we lose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Time for our defensive players to put their cups on, against Mac “cup check” Jones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 1 minute ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said: Which two of the last three games did we lose? Last year and this year at MetLife. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Just now, buffaloboyinATL said: Time for our defensive players to put their cups on, against Mac “cup check” Jones. You can't win at pocket pool, Mac. The referee's a prick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 1 minute ago, dollars 2 donuts said: I'll tell you what, I know I am getting ahead of myself here on the schedule, but after three straight tough games wherein we lost two of them I truly want to beat the living p***, I mean the absolutely living p*** out of the Jets. Tired of them. Enough. Saleh’s nonstop smirk gives me road rage. I’m normally better than that. 😬 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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