Justice Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Motorin' said: Just curious, are you counting all of the people killed by the Taliban, the Baaths and ISIS in your tally? In other words, are we responsible for the deaths of the evil regimes we were fighting against? Two follow up questions, is Iraq as a nation better off now that it has a true democracy and has been ridden of Sadaam Hussein's butchers and ISIS? Are the Afghan people better off now under the Taliban than under US control? I’m only concerned with the innocent civilians and millions of them have died. Iraq? Is that a serious question? lol. They were way better off with Saddam. Besides we should have never intervened with them in the first place. Your last question there about the Taliban is ironic, ain’t it? I mean considering some may say we lost that war based on the results and no we can’t occupy them. Afghanistan will be Afghanistan. We can’t change them. On top of all that the terrorists on 9/11 were all Saudi. Go figure. 1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said: I know this is a place for some extreme opinions. But the Hamas attacks and Israeli response have truly brought out the worst in people here. Israel and Hamas were in it together, for some unknown reason. Nuke a bunch of Islamic countries. That's where we're at now. Sad. Whatever you say bro but I follow the smoke. Where there’s smoke there’s fire. Who funds their enemy? What enemy accepts funds from his sworn enemy? Israel shows us maps of UNDERGROUND tunnels and they know exactly where to find hamas during this war but they didn’t have a clue about an oncoming attack?? All fishy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 VDH: Hamas and Amoral Clarity. One unexpected blowback from the medieval Hamas’s barbaric murdering of hundreds of Israeli civilians is the revelation of current global amorality. More than 20 Harvard university identity politics groups pledged their support to the Hamas murderers — to the utter silence for days of Harvard President Claudine Gay. Americans knew higher education practiced racist admission policies. It has long promoted racially segregated dorms and graduations. And de facto it has destroyed the First Amendment. But the overt support for Hamas killers by the diversity, equity, and inclusion crowd on a lot of campuses exposes to Americans the real moral and intellectual rot in higher education. Democratic Socialist members of the new woke Democrat Party openly expressed ecstatic support for Hamas’s bloodwork. Their biggest fears were not dead fellow Americans or hostages, or some 1,000 butchered Jewish civilians. Instead they were fearful that righteous Israeli retaliation might destroy the Hamas death machine. Palestinians for years fooled naifs in Europe and the Obama and Biden administrations into sending billions of dollars into Gaza. These monies were channeled to tunnel into Israel, to obtain a huge rocket arsenal, and to craft plans to wipe out Jews. https://pjmedia.com/columns/victor-davis-hanson/2023/10/13/hamas-and-amoral-clarity-n1734758#google_vignette It’s VDH, so read the whole thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 15, 2023 Author Share Posted October 15, 2023 wsj article: https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/israel-hamas-war-gaza-conflict/card/iran-s-revolutionary-guards-move-fighters-closer-to-syrian-border-with-israel-ptuq7qx5BPSC1wubItpx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: wsj article: https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/israel-hamas-war-gaza-conflict/card/iran-s-revolutionary-guards-move-fighters-closer-to-syrian-border-with-israel-ptuq7qx5BPSC1wubItpx This will not end well for anybody. I fear we’re on the brink of WW3. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 15, 2023 Author Share Posted October 15, 2023 2 hours ago, B-Man said: No way of knowing if true. Maybe won't happen then. Israel is quickly losing the moral high ground and after another week, with how many more times Palestinians dead than Israelis, they will have even less. Questions about what is to be achieved and what follow will only grow 1 minute ago, Justice said: This will not end well for anybody. I fear we’re on the brink of WW3. Ya, I mean just wait until a ship is blown up in the Straights of Hormuz! Oil prices will skyrocket and the crisis will deepen, though Israeli seems to--MAYBE--be having second thoughts on getting pulled into a Gazan trap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 (edited) Find it odd how many people are arguing whether Hamas is a terrorist organization- what else do call a group that targets civilians primarily? The response to Hamas can be discussed but without admitting that there is no point in any discussion Edited October 15, 2023 by Orlando Tim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 Well, here's another option. NEW: Former IDF Intel Expert Suggests Delay in Ground Invasion of Gaza Due to Information on Hostages https://redstate.com/mike_miller/2023/10/15/new-former-idf-intelligence-offer-suggests-delay-in-ground-invasion-of-gaza-due-to-condition-of-hostages-n2165085 (because we KNOW how good their informants are) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 15, 2023 Author Share Posted October 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said: Find it odd how many people are arguing whether Hamas is a terrorist organization- what else do call a group that targets civilians primarily? The response to Hamas can be discussed but without admitting that there is no point in any discussion Who is saying they are not a terrorist organization? 3 minutes ago, B-Man said: Well, here's another option. NEW: Former IDF Intel Expert Suggests Delay in Ground Invasion of Gaza Due to Information on Hostages https://redstate.com/mike_miller/2023/10/15/new-former-idf-intelligence-offer-suggests-delay-in-ground-invasion-of-gaza-due-to-condition-of-hostages-n2165085 (because we KNOW how good their informants are) If they invade, you think any of those hostages live very long? The Israeli governmnet must be getting barraged by the families of the hostages to stop and think. I know they held a protest in Tel Aviv over this and the government simply can't ignore them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 2 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Along with leftist Harvard student organizations. Yeah - those big bad college kids - how dare they… Meanwhile, not a peep out of the cult when their master went after Jews a couple weeks ago or when he hosted your boy Nick Fuentes at Mara Pedo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 15, 2023 Author Share Posted October 15, 2023 @Irv 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Irv said: Worldwide view? Who gives a *****? It's time to kick some ass and straighten out some of these tough guy countries. 210, 220 million people. Whatever it takes. We've wasted all this money on nuclear capability. Let's see what it can do. 1945 was a long time ago. Alright dumbass, beyond the ridiculous moral monstrosity of the act, where do you think the Nuclear fallout is going to go if they Nuke something their own country is wrapped around? Edited October 15, 2023 by Warcodered 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: Alright dumbass, beyond the ridiculous moral monstrosity of the act, where do you think the Nuclear fallout is going to go if they Nuke something their own country is wrapped around? Funny. You can resume sucking your thumb. What a mess. Edited October 15, 2023 by Irv 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Irv said: Funny. You can resume sucking your thumb. What a mess. I'm sorry your genocidal idea was stupid, I'm sure you can think of some other way to prove you're on the same level as the people committing horrifying acts. Edited October 15, 2023 by Warcodered 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 3 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: I labeled rioters convicted criminals who stormed the Capitol as cockroaches. And they are. Who gives af? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 13 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I'm sorry your genocidal idea was stupid, I'm sure you can think of some other way to prove you're on the same level as the people committing horrifying acts. You supported the unprovoked slaughter by Hamas last week. Hamas and Hezbollah have openly communicated that they want to commit genocide on the Israeli’s and you support that. You are an antisemite and you don’t like it when you are called out as a hater of the Jews. You probably have relatives who worked at Auschwitz. Your hatred is transparent. What a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 1 hour ago, BillStime said: Yeah - those big bad college kids - how dare they… Meanwhile, not a peep out of the cult when their master went after Jews a couple weeks ago or when he hosted your boy Nick Fuentes at Mara Pedo. Trump has said plenty and has consistently supported Isreal. Your mental filters and TDS won't allow you to hear it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 Just now, Irv said: You supported the unprovoked slaughter by Hamas last week. Hamas and Hezbollah have openly communicated that they want to commit genocide on the Israeli’s and you support that. You are an antisemite and you don’t like it when you are called out as a hater of the Jews. You probably have relatives who worked at Auschwitz. Your hatred is transparent. What a mess. I've never done any of that, the only person here who's called for the murder of millions of innocents has been you. Come on man wear your badge with pride. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 Just now, Warcodered said: I've never done any of that, the only person here who's called for the murder of millions of innocents has been you. Come on man wear your badge with pride. Your motives are so clear. Admit it. You are an antisemite. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Irv said: Your motives are so clear. Admit it. You are an antisemite. Man, what are you panicking now that you've been exposed as the genocidal baby killer that you've accused others of being. Edited October 15, 2023 by Warcodered 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 15, 2023 Author Share Posted October 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, Irv said: Your motives are so clear. Admit it. You are an antisemite. Here Irv, just for you. Hope you enjoy and you are again touched by the better angles of your nature 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 All of this internecine squabbling aside, I think this gets underway in the next 24 hours. Very difficult to mobilize that amount of troops and not move. I expect the delay has been the US negotiating with the Israelis to provide some humanitarian corridor, but I think the time is nigh. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Trump has said plenty and has consistently supported Isreal. Your mental filters and TDS won't allow you to hear it. Yeah, we will just whitewash Conald's long history of bigotry and trafficking in antisemitic tropes. I find it rather amusing that the freaks who idolize Conald, some of the most mentally unstable and delusional individuals who worship one of the most mentally unstable and delusional characters ever, are constantly pointing fingers at others for having TDS. You can't make this up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, sherpa said: All of this internecine squabbling aside, I think this gets underway in the next 24 hours. Very difficult to mobilize that amount of troops and not move. I expect the delay has been the US negotiating with the Israelis to provide some humanitarian corridor, but I think the time is nigh. With what Iran said and then Israel turning the water back on I do wonder if there may be some negotiations going on and that could always derail whatever is going on, though it feels like they've got a lot of steam behind them for that. Edited October 15, 2023 by Warcodered 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 15, 2023 Author Share Posted October 15, 2023 13 minutes ago, sherpa said: All of this internecine squabbling aside, I think this gets underway in the next 24 hours. Very difficult to mobilize that amount of troops and not move. I expect the delay has been the US negotiating with the Israelis to provide some humanitarian corridor, but I think the time is nigh. It's also hard to believe you get something so complicated as a full scale invasion together in a few days. Objectives, goals, strategies, coordination, etc, must be a nightmare to contemplate pulling this off without a slaughter happening. And someone has to have some idea of what follows. I'm guessing this mostly gets called off. An invasion means the hostages die Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 Biden botches another. What a mess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Andy1 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 If the Iron Beam works, it would be a game changer. It has a range of about 4 miles, could be mounted on drones or satellites, could rapidly fire at incoming misses at speed of light to take out multiple targets and costs only a few bucks per shot. It’s like something from a science fiction movie but could become a reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, B-Man said: Seems like it could be incredibly effective, the only thing I could think Hamas could possibly do is just massive volume, has to be a limit to how fast, how many places it can target at once and possibly might overheat. But could they even afford to do that at all and for any length of time. It's an incredible technology if it works as well as it seems. Edited October 15, 2023 by Warcodered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 Should have been saying it all along, but it is good he announced it now. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 3 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Trump has said plenty and has consistently supported Isreal. There really is no daylight between the positions of the Trump and Biden administrations here. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 🎯 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 Just now, B-Man said: Should have been saying it all along, but it is good he announced it now. The Palestinian Authority is supposed to be "running" both the West Bank and Gaza. Hamas - voted in initially - hijacked the process in Gaza, which is why we are where we are today. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 15, 2023 Author Share Posted October 15, 2023 This week? That makes me think there won't be an invasion this week 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, B-Man said: Well it was cool looking, but I don't know what the point of this was, video game footage and wasn't even "Iron Beam" but the old system. Edited October 16, 2023 by Warcodered 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 8 hours ago, Tiberius said: Who is saying they are not a terrorist organization? I do not mean people on this site, I mean the politicians/ talking heads/news. https://www.npr.org/2023/10/12/1204881032/hamas-israel-attack-palestinians This was first one I found and I assure you there are multiples of that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 16, 2023 Author Share Posted October 16, 2023 9 hours ago, Orlando Tim said: I do not mean people on this site, I mean the politicians/ talking heads/news. https://www.npr.org/2023/10/12/1204881032/hamas-israel-attack-palestinians This was first one I found and I assure you there are multiples of that its a big world, i mean how can people support a pos like trump, but they do hamas won one election and ended elections, trump tried that. trump and hamas 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: its a big world, i mean how can people support a pos like trump, but they do hamas won one election and ended elections, trump tried that. trump and hamas And you again show how to be classless, one murders children, one hurt your feelings. Making that comparison, even flippantly, is really pathetic. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: its a big world, i mean how can people support a pos like trump, but they do hamas won one election and ended elections, trump tried that. trump and hamas I'll wager you won't find a single Hamas supporter among the MAGA "cult" but you sure can find lots of them in liberal enclaves like universities and think tanks. Many lib's are more than sympathetic to the terrorists even though they'd surely slaughter them as quickly as any Trump "supporter". They're nothing short of delusional, and simply stupid. When those sleeper cells get activated and the scum bags blow up some campus buildings somewhere they might wise up, but I doubt it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 16, 2023 Author Share Posted October 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: I'll wager you won't find a single Hamas supporter among the MAGA "cult" but you sure can find lots of them in liberal enclaves like universities and think tanks. Many lib's are more than sympathetic to the terrorists even though they'd surely slaughter them as quickly as any Trump "supporter". They're nothing short of delusional, and simply stupid. When those sleeper cells get activated and the scum bags blow up some campus buildings somewhere they might wise up, but I doubt it. You will find these people in the MAGA cult 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You will find these people in the MAGA cult last time they were seen, the Lincoln project hired them to scare you at a Younkin event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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