GunnerBill Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: they aren't very deep. He gets short/dump passes then gets tackled pretty quick. And he should be getting slightly deeper than he is on some of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 12 hours ago, John from Riverside said: We’ve played three games Was he not used quite a bit in the first game? not as a receiver. 4 for 26 yards. 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: And he should be getting slightly deeper than he is on some of them. looks more like the check down receiver though--hangs out by the sideline, looks back for a short pass, gets drilled. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 On 9/29/2023 at 9:01 AM, GunnerBill said: Johnson does know how to use his personnel very well. What is interersting is his passing scheme isn't particularly complex or creative. He knows what his guys can do and what they can't and he leans into it. The one concern I have re. Kincaid so far is he is struggling with his route depths. Kincaid doesn't struggle with route depths...the route depths are struggling with Kincaid! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: And he should be getting slightly deeper than he is on some of them. Yeah, it's not egregious but I have noticed several occasions where driving another yard or two downfield would have made a significant difference in the play outcome. Maybe he's uses to playing with college QB's that need bigger windows to squeeze throws in and this is just an adjustment period playing with Allen. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Simon said: Yeah, it's not egregious but I have noticed several occasions where driving another yard or two downfield would have made a significant difference in the play outcome. Maybe he's uses to playing with college QB's that need bigger windows to squeeze throws in and this is just an adjustment period playing with Allen. To me he looks like he is just a bit over eager and is coming up a bit early. 14 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: not as a receiver. 4 for 26 yards. looks more like the check down receiver though--hangs out by the sideline, looks back for a short pass, gets drilled. Yes that is definitely how they have used him for the most part so far. But I think he would be in a better position to break one if he was getting to the right depth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 11 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: To me he looks like he is just a bit over eager and is coming up a bit early. So you're suggesting it's a Frankie Goes to Hollywood issue? Relax, don't do it, when you want to cut.... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 On 9/29/2023 at 10:20 AM, Buffalo_Stampede said: It’s tough right now because it’s Diggs and company right now. Hopefully it becomes Diggs, Kincaid, and company. Im not sure when it happens. When Dorsey leaves… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 44 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said: When Dorsey leaves… Problem I believe is Davis and Knox haven’t developed into that 2nd option they hoped for. Now it’s politics. Davis and Knox are popular players. Allen wants Davis to eat but he just doesn’t get open enough. He’s a play killer. But Allen finds him on broken plays mostly. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: To me he looks like he is just a bit over eager and is coming up a bit early. Don't judge, this happens to a lot of young men! 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 5 hours ago, Simon said: Yeah, it's not egregious but I have noticed several occasions where driving another yard or two downfield would have made a significant difference in the play outcome. Maybe he's uses to playing with college QB's that need bigger windows to squeeze throws in and this is just an adjustment period playing with Allen. With Allen throwing at him he should WANT to get a little deeper so he doesn’t get his fingers broken! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: Don't judge, this happens to a lot of young men! Sometimes I would be so excited, I wouldn't get my socks off! 😕 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 5 hours ago, GunnerBill said: To me he looks like he is just a bit over eager and is coming up a bit early. I like to think he can make his routes as disciplined as his eyes. A guy with that catch rate knows how to focus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 Throw 86 the ball more than 5 yards please 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 Does Kincaid wear gloves? No? There's your problem * He does? OK, there's your problem. 🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaenon Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 (edited) On 9/29/2023 at 9:17 AM, arcane said: And on Ben utilizing personnel - Detroit traded a good RB for a late round pick and then spent pick 12 on a RB, who they refuse to use in place of a JAG free agent signing Me trying to determine what JAG means since I doubt it was a jaguars free agent RB. I feel old, and I don't wanna look it up. I got this... Just don't have it yet. Edit - just as good? Just now, Kaenon said: Me trying to determine what JAG means since I doubt it was a jaguars free agent RB. I feel old, and I don't wanna look it up. I got this... Just don't have it yet. Edited October 1, 2023 by Kaenon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, Kaenon said: Me trying to determine what JAG means since I doubt it was a jaguars free agent RB. I feel old, and I don't wanna look it up. I got this... Just don't have it yet. Edit - just as good? It means "just a guy." Not a particularly special player, just another RB, which is what Montgomery is 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, Kaenon said: Me trying to determine what JAG means since I doubt it was a jaguars free agent RB. I feel old, and I don't wanna look it up. I got this... Just don't have it yet. Edit - just as good? Just. Another. Guy. = jag 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, Kaenon said: Me trying to determine what JAG means since I doubt it was a jaguars free agent RB. I feel old, and I don't wanna look it up. I got this... Just don't have it yet. Edit - just as good? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 20 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Problem I believe is Davis and Knox haven’t developed into that 2nd option they hoped for. Now it’s politics. Davis and Knox are popular players. Allen wants Davis to eat but he just doesn’t get open enough. He’s a play killer. But Allen finds him on broken plays mostly. Totally agree. This offense is scoring, but it doesn’t look easy and still requires Allen to be a hero half the time. Play design seems suspect. Receivers to close to one another. Too many long developing plays when f’d get constant pressure. Year two the offense shouldn’t look this disjointed at this point. It’s functioning but not as efficient as it should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 Today’s the day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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