BillsUberAlles Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Why would they want the other team to have time left? They had timeouts to burn they were fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racecitybills Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 This was a poorly managed sequence- Wasted 30 seconds on the first play - should have called time out and gotten organized with a couple of calls- 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane nelson Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 I have no issue with time management, but i dont understand running 4th and short from the shotgun formation, especially with our found running game and Josh 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 “Furious” or curious? You never know with spell check on this board. When you’re winning 37-3 I’d recommend you go with the latter. You’ll live longer. 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 They did not run out of time yesterday they ran out of downs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 5 hours ago, GunnerBill said: At the moment Hardy is less effective in those gimmick play situations than Lil' Dirty. You couldn't be more correct. I think their original plan was to have Hines for those plays. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Sometimes it is actually right to be conservative, run the clock, take the points, and trust your defense. Not always, but sometimes. Fans have this super aggressive mindset all the time, but if the offense came out slinging and turned the ball over with a minute left for the commanders to put a drive together, you'd be complaining about that too. Seriously, there really is no way to win unless you drive for a quick TD every single time. There will always be those who complain that everything wasn't perfect and how they would have done things. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Fire the coach we didn’t score 70….. is that what the OP wants to hear? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 12 hours ago, FireChans said: They don’t want to leave enough time on the clock for the other team. Stop being logical…… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 37-3 Clock management at the end was terrible…did not get the shutout. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 13 hours ago, Mark Vader said: This was the only part of today's game that made me furious. Yes, the 4th & inches passing play was incredibly dumb as well. That being said, this is the second time this season that the Bills have done this right before halftime. After creating a turnover in both the Jets & Commanders territory, and with all time outs for the Bills still available, they allowed the clock to run off a lot of time, and in the end the Bills end up settling for a field goal. BOTH TIMES! Who is alright with this? Why are we not seeing urgency to move the ball and get us as close to the end zone as possible, instead of forcing Josh Allen to have to throw 20 yards plus to the end zone? This is why we lost to the Jets, and I thought it was all a fluke, and we'd never see it again. Apparently, I was wrong. Who is making these decisions? McDermott? Dorsey? This is unacceptable! The Bills need to play as if the game is tied. Instead, they looked like they didn't care. The Bills cannot continue to do this. Does this make sense to anyone? The 3rd and 12 little out pass to Diggs behind the line of scrimmage in the second half when we were driving inside the Washington 35 and we got nothing on it was a terrible call as well. It wasn't 3rd and 3. Get our WR's down the field in that situation. Bad call!! And yes the 4th and inches pass was awful as well. Need to clean those types of play calls up this week. And stop running reverses to WR's. It just doesn't work in the NFL anymore with the speed of defenses. Its not college football. I also hope we can get Kincaid involved running vertically up the field. I can not imagine we drafted him in the first round to catch 5 yard outs to the sideline. That all being said, the O line was tremendous yesterday against a pretty stout front 7. Kudos to them. If they keep that up, we will be very tough to beat. And the TD pass from Josh to Gabe was a thing of beauty. You can not run that play any better. Tremendous by QB and WR!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 9 hours ago, GunnerBill said: At the moment Hardy is less effective in those gimmick play situations than Lil' Dirty. Gimmick plays usually work because they fell for the misdirection though. So its more likely the play/playcall/timing than it is the player. 3 minutes ago, Paup 1995MVP said: The 3rd and 12 little out pass to Diggs behind the line of scrimmage in the second half when we were driving inside the Washington 35 and we got nothing on it was a terrible call as well. It wasn't 3rd and 3. Get our WR's down the field in that situation. Bad call!! And yes the 4th and inches pass was awful as well. Need to clean those types of play calls up this week. And stop running reverses to WR's. It just doesn't work in the NFL anymore with the speed of defenses. Its not college football. I also hope we can get Kincaid involved running vertically up the field. I can not imagine we drafted him in the first round to catch 5 yard outs to the sideline. That all being said, the O line was tremendous yesterday against a pretty stout front 7. Kudos to them. If they keep that up, we will be very tough to beat. And the TD pass from Josh to Gabe was a thing of beauty. You can not run that play any better. Tremendous by QB and WR!! 1 - Probably an audible for a specific look/blitz that washington gave us. 2 - Just run twice on 3rd and 1 and a half. Reverses absolutely work still - just not when the end blows it up and forces you backwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 I thought the clock management was fine. As others noted, the issue there was more about execution than clock management. And besides, sometimes you just really need to make sure you come away with points, and if it's a FG that's fine. Yesterday was one of those times IMO. I hated all the runs on 2nd-and-long and the pass on fourth-and-one, but given that we won the game I guess I don't mind having that film out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 I actually didn't mind not running QB sneak on 4th and 1. I felt confident by that stage the game was won and I want to put something else on tape for teams to think about defending in future. Again I didn't love the exact call.... but there we are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted September 25, 2023 Author Share Posted September 25, 2023 11 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: It makes complete sense to me. It's clock management 101. You leave as little time as possible while still giving yourself every chance you can to score. They kicked the field goal on 4th down. They didn't run out of time, they ran out of downs. How do you think using less clock would have been to the Bills' benefit? It's about trying to use as many plays as possible and getting closer to the end zone so that you have multiple options of scoring a touchdown. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 They wasted a out 15-20 seconds going a bit too slow after one of the completions. They slow played it so they used up all the clock. I think they could have run that one play maybe 10 sec earlier giving themselves a little more time incase they got a negative play or a first down by penalty gov8ng them a few more downs to try and get a TD. Otherwise it was fine. They had all three TOs and were in control of the clock. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted September 25, 2023 Author Share Posted September 25, 2023 10 hours ago, John from Riverside said: So I would have to go back and take a look at it again, but is it possible that the bills were running the clock out so that the opposing team wouldn’t have the ability to come back at them before the half? Is it possible if they wanted to score points and they didn’t want to give time do the other team to go on offense Been really disappointed in Harti so farm Again, does that mean that we were afraid of what Sam Howell and the Commanders offense could do to us with 1 minute to go in the half? When you have a chance to get a touchdown, you should do all you can to get it. That's what I'm saying. They could have gone more up-tempo in that sequence and saved more time to get a touchdown. The Bills had the potential to go up 20-0, but they put themselves in a position where it was difficult to do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 15 hours ago, Mark Vader said: So, we're afraid of what Zach Wilson and Sam Howell will do to our defense? Howell coming into this game was 3-0 in his last 3 starts and doing really well. I agree it needs improvement, but we won and in a convincing way, so no biggie right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Being the last team with the ball before halftime and scoring anything, even a field goal, is the way good teams win games. Classic Patriots. Happy to see the Bills start doing it too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted September 25, 2023 Author Share Posted September 25, 2023 3 hours ago, Yawning Frog said: the team won by 34 points what more do you want from them if this isn't good enough for you than go coach them yourself. Did you notice that the score was still 16-0 in the 4th quarter? That's still a two possession game. When you have a chance to bury your opponent early, you do all you can to make it happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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