oldmanfan Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Just now, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: the O-line altogether will be the demise of this team. this isn't 2000 where defense wins championships yet instead of addressing the key positions, the positions that protect the QB and have success in run blocking, they failed to do so. 5 years and the O-line has been the weakest link, they don't have 5 more years to resolve this. I'm no GM, I don't scout nor make draft selections but even I can see the glaring needs on the offensive Line. They did address them at guard. Interior line looked fine last night. And I’m sorry but I watched every down the offense played the first half, focusing on Brown specifically, and he was OK. Dawkins sucked last night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Just now, oldmanfan said: They did address them at guard. Interior line looked fine last night. And I’m sorry but I watched every down the offense played the first half, focusing on Brown specifically, and he was OK. Dawkins sucked last night. we'll see. like I said, they don't have 5 years the window is narrowing with a quickness. as for dawkins, seems to be a likeable guy but he does not take his game serious enough otherwise he wouldn't be in his present shape. if he turns out to be the weak link and it affects his game as evident in last nights glorified practice game then they need to find another direction for his position. I'm not going to name call or fat shame him like many have. I'm no choir boy but do have more respect than that. I agree with 29 years that he should get a conditioning coach and take his diet more seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: we'll see. like I said, they don't have 5 years the window is narrowing with a quickness. as for dawkins, seems to be a likeable guy but he does not take his game serious enough otherwise he wouldn't be in his present shape. if he turns out to be the weak link and it affects his game as evident in last nights glorified practice game then they need to find another direction for his position. I'm not going to name call or fat shame him like many have. I'm no choir boy but do have more respect than that. I agree with 29 years that he should get a conditioning coach and take his diet more seriously. If they think the Dutch kid can handle it I wonder if they’d trade Dawkins. Edited August 20, 2023 by oldmanfan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 1 minute ago, oldmanfan said: If the think the Dutch kid can handle it I wonder if they’d trade Dawkins. Perhaps he needs to shovel out any teammates if we get any snow this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 24 minutes ago, Chaos said: PFF grades his as an average left tackle. What else you got? The PFF grade I saw was 76.5. Maybe I am reading it wrong, who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 8 hours ago, Toledo Bill said: .Dawkins is such a poor reflection on our coaching staff. Ok, I know he has a big contract and would be hard to move on from but it is ridiculous to have this guy show up every year more out of shape. He shows no leadership skills and comes across as a fat clown. He holds a premier position and has turned into, at best an average left tackle. I really am disappointed that something can’t be done about this. Maybe behind the scenes McD is all over him but I doubt it. I really feel that his attitude and conditioning has negatively affected the entire team. Don’t worry, this guy keeps McDermott up at night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: If they think the Dutch kid can handle it I wonder if they’d trade Dawkins. Good question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 It’s a legit fair question to ask “Is this core group still hungry?” Watch Dawkins on Judon - then watch how Dawkins finished this play at the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 39 minutes ago, Chaos said: PFF grades his as an average left tackle. What else you got? PFF has graded out Dawkins in the 70's (which indicates above average to good play) every season he has been in the league except his rookie year and 2018 (His rookie year he was graded out as a very impressive 83 and in 2018 he was 69.9 which is right at the above average line). To my eye test Dawkins every year has been a solid LT. Not an elite player but a better than average starter at a premium position. Now I am concerned that he might be putting on weight as he pushes 30 and he is coming off a bad pre-season game. It's three weeks until the regular season, hopefully, it was just a bad game for Dawkins and maybe he can lose a little weight and get in a bit better shape in these upcoming weeks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Dion is a fat tub of goo. Useless. Probably beats his dog. Pegula is an idiot for allowing him to be on the team. Such a low rent team. The entire city sucks so bad. I’m leaving for good. Go Dion! Go Bills! Go Buffalo! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 8 hours ago, 97bills said: Our entire oline needs upgraded , we’ve spent big money on defense, while our oline is a hope and prayer every year..When we drafted Allen we should’ve put a top tier oline in front of him. I guess we’re going by the colts play book , and we’re going to wait until it’s to late. All that money on defense, and Allen still has to run around for his life and score 35 points… big baller bean lol this. So much this... It's actually criminal what they are doing IMO. I do think the bills are better than what we saw on saturday though, but what you are saying is basically true and very evident these past years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Cover 1 has a breakdown of Torrence up. One play that stood out was a play I felt Dawkins got beat on yesterday. The pass rusher nearly got Allen’s arm in a similar way that damaged his UCL last year. Well cover 1 points out that Allen’s drop was too far. Making it easy for the pass rusher. These are things the typical fan never sees. We think Dawkins got beat but the QB didn’t help. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: It’s a legit fair question to ask “Is this core group still hungry?” Watch Dawkins on Judon - then watch how Dawkins finished this play at the end What is that thing Diggs is doing after he catches the ball?? Looks so unfamiliar. Still hungry is a good question. But yes, Dawkins super hungry. All the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Chaos said: PFF grades his as an average left tackle. What else you got? I've always thought Dawkins was decent to average. The poor play of others just masked a lot of his short comings. 42 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: If they think the Dutch kid can handle it I wonder if they’d trade Dawkins. He looks good thus far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIT BY SPIKES Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, oldmanfan said: I have wondered for a while if he may have some long Covid stuff going on. Was Dion following a medical doctors advice when he decided to delay taking the Covid vax? Who? Asking for a NY Giant friend. Count down to toxicity…5…4…3…2…1. Edited August 20, 2023 by HIT BY SPIKES 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 54 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: the O-line altogether will be the demise of this team. this isn't 2000 where defense wins championships yet instead of addressing the key positions, the positions that protect the QB and have success in run blocking, they failed to do so. 5 years and the O-line has been the weakest link, they don't have 5 more years to resolve this. I'm no GM, I don't scout nor make draft selections but even I can see the glaring needs on the offensive Line. Great post! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 2 days before a Playoff game and our starting LT is helping eat 1,000 wings. I get it, lineman aren’t peeled, but are we shocked Dion’s conditioning is subpar. This is why I was on Allen (who has since admitted he needs to workout more - K.Brant podcast) and why I question this notion that Gabe is the hardest worker ever when he has zero definition and a flabby gut in a photo taken one week after the season ends. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: It’s a legit fair question to ask “Is this core group still hungry?” Watch Dawkins on Judon - then watch how Dawkins finished this play at the end I would say……maybe Dawkins is TOO hungry! . Edited August 20, 2023 by Augie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Dawkins needs to forget the cameras, media appearances, podcasts and focus on playing LT and protecting Josh Allen. Think the fame us getting to his head. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 9 hours ago, oldmanfan said: I have wondered for a while if he may have some long Covid stuff going on. What are you taking about ? How would you have any knowledge of this? He would not playing if so. And the Bills are required to inform the league if he has an injury or illness. Due to HIPPA they can’t state the issue, just that he unavailable. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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