Lost Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 I don't watch much college ball so I really knew anything about this guy until I saw Chris Brown and Tasker talking about him on One Bills Live. Guy is built like a linebacker and appears to have an arm like Allen. Anyone here watched him in college that can provide some insight on what kind of player he is since we'll be seeing a lot of him on Saturday? Is he future all pro or bust? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 Just now, Lost said: I don't watch much college ball so I really knew anything about this guy until I saw Chris Brown and Tasker talking about him on One Bills Live. Guy is built like a linebacker and appears to have an arm like Allen. Anyone here watched him in college that can provide some insight on what kind of player he is since we'll be seeing a lot of him on Saturday? Is he future all pro or bust? I think there are more options than just the two. He's basically an athletic freak that they're going to try to mold into an NFL QB. Most of these projects don't work out and I honestly think that Josh Allen has helped these types of QB's because of his success. 7 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 He looks impressive. If he is coached well and protected well I think he has a bright future. The Colts have the blueprint from the Bills and how the coaches up Josh Allen. Excited to see him play. He was my favourite QB in the draft. 4 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cray51 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Lost said: I don't watch much college ball so I really knew anything about this guy until I saw Chris Brown and Tasker talking about him on One Bills Live. Guy is built like a linebacker and appears to have an arm like Allen. Anyone here watched him in college that can provide some insight on what kind of player he is since we'll be seeing a lot of him on Saturday? Is he future all pro or bust? I find him to have a much higher chance of “bust” over all pro. He has tools, but struggles reading defenses which - imo - is the single most critical factor in high end QB play. The other thing is - he is a big dude, but is he going to run with that emphasis that Allen does. Will he carry that reckless abandon into the NFL, so he can be a dynamic rushing threat. I absolutely think he is a stash in a QB keeper situation, as he has a small chance of putting it all together. However, I’m not convinced he can 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, wppete said: He looks impressive. If he is coached well and protected well I think he has a bright future. The Colts have the blueprint from the Bills and how the coaches up Josh Allen. Excited to see him play. He was my favourite QB in the draft. Mine too. Big swing type of guy. Seems to have the tools to succeed. Good coach for him too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 (edited) The press is really hyping up his "first start against the Buffalo Bills" and his desire to "get the W". Dude, it's preseason. The Bills best two offensive players have already been ruled out by the coach. Meanwhile Thursday in practice: Quote Richardson will be looking to rebound from a rough practice on Thursday. The Colts were in helmets and shorts for a light practice before traveling to Buffalo. But Richardson and the first-team offense struggled, going 5-of-12 (41.7%) passing with some drops and would-be sacks given up. Edited August 11, 2023 by Beck Water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Captain Hindsight said: Mine too. Big swing type of guy. Seems to have the tools to succeed. Good coach for him too Patience and coaching him up is the key. Also the colts need to sign Jonathan Taylor and run the ball hard. He can live off the play action for the first year. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 Impressive athlete. Terrible QB. He landed in what I believe is the best possible spot for himself, with Shane Steichen. We’ll find out if Steichen is the truth with this guy. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 He will be a TE in 2 years. We have had a couple of those guys on our team in the past 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 I follow UF a good bit and typically go to a game every year. Saw him in Gainesville last year against Utah and he's basically rookie year Josh Allen.. A lot of inaccuracy and bad decision making, but makes the wow plays every game that get you bought in. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 (edited) Athletic freak that is faster than Allen but is very inconsistent and might not ever be that good. Will depend on how hard he wants to work to develop and how capable he is of changing what needs to be changed. Could see him being Zach Wilson 2.0 Edited August 11, 2023 by Big Turk 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 I project that he will get a lot of hype because of his Fantasy Football value, but I don't think it will translate to on the field success. At least not this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, SCBills said: I follow UF a good bit and typically go to a game every year. Saw him in Gainesville last year against Utah and he's basically rookie year Josh Allen.. A lot of inaccuracy and bad decision making, but makes the wow plays every game that get you bought in. Thats why I like him. Drafting a QB that high you are going to get one of two guys Polished player, great skill set, great leadership - Luck, Lawrence, but also guys like Darnold and Mayfield Guy with incredible gifts but erratic and relies too much on athleticism - Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, RG3 With Young and Stroud gone the Colts had to take Richardson. He might flop, but its worth the risk IMO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted August 11, 2023 Author Share Posted August 11, 2023 Just now, Captain Hindsight said: Thats why I like him. Drafting a QB that high you are going to get one of two guys Polished player, great skill set, great leadership - Luck, Lawrence, but also guys like Darnold and Mayfield Guy with incredible gifts but erratic and relies too much on athleticism - Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, RG3 With Young and Stroud gone the Colts had to take Richardson. He might flop, but its worth the risk IMO and J.P. Losman 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew21PA Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 Feel all these QBs bust from this draft. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Lost said: I don't watch much college ball so I really knew anything about this guy until I saw Chris Brown and Tasker talking about him on One Bills Live. Guy is built like a linebacker and appears to have an arm like Allen. Anyone here watched him in college that can provide some insight on what kind of player he is since we'll be seeing a lot of him on Saturday? Is he future all pro or bust? He started one year in the NCAA and was sporatic passer at best that said Florida isn't thriving with elite WR either. Yet with his size and measurables he could be another Cam Newton on the upside, on the downside Marcus Mariotta. Edited August 11, 2023 by The Jokeman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 Not a big CFB guy but said leading up to the draft, he'd be the first qb I take. His potential is sky high but floor is very low. If he has the right coaching and system, he'll be really good in a cpl years 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 I saw him just a few times when he played Alabama. He is a (imho) more of an athlete than a QB. At least this is what I thought when watching him. I have a couple of friends that are Florida Fans. They were very high on him at first but trusted him less as time passed. That said, for all I know he will be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 34 minutes ago, Lost said: and J.P. Losman 😂 Of course. Its not fool proof, but Darnold was that cant miss perfect prospect and hes on his 3rd team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cray51 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 33 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: Of course. Its not fool proof, but Darnold was that cant miss perfect prospect and hes on his 3rd team That's because the equation for a QB is incredibly difficult to solve, and its misunderstood. People get caught up in "Pretty technique" and "Athleticism", but struggle to grade IMO the most important part of a QB - his mental ability. Wonderlik is a joke, so we dont have any sort of really good measure for the person's ability to digest information real time and make a decision. A QB has the impact in a play for about 3-4 seconds. I'd say 50% of that impact is completely mental - little athleticism or technique physically impacts 50% of the outcome of the QBs role in a play. The other 50% is split between pre throw physicals (ability to take the snap, drop back, work the pocket, scramble), and the throw itself (technique, velocity, accuracy). Darnold had beautiful technique, and decent physicals. However, he couldnt process the game well enough to utilize those fundamentals. Richardson has incredible physicals. However, I haven't seen him read defenses in a way that he can be an upper echelon QB. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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