Rocky Landing Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Beck Water said: I don't think Sean Payton and Nathaniel Hackett are gonna be "besties" any time soon. It's hard not to lose a bit of respect for Payton over these statements. Regardless of how valid his opinions may be, he's taking a real swipe at Hackett's livelihood here. I get 'trash talking,' and all of that (they are week five opponents, after all), but publicly trashing a previous regime really seems to cross the line of professionalism. I'm not sure I've ever seen a HC act in such a way. Edited July 27, 2023 by Rocky Landing 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 When is the last time Sean Payton won anything? Asking for a friend… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 5 hours ago, Captain_Quint said: He's not wrong about Nate Hackett though. Be that as it is, it’s still Bush League to call it out to the media. Classless, at best. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 9 hours ago, Warcodered said: I mean it is a bit of a mirror like situation, the Broncos did everything Wilson wanted and this year the Jets have been bowing to every one of Rogers whims. Deja vue all over again ... the Broncos also were supposedly only a QB away from being a SB contender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 10 hours ago, The 9 Isles said: “It doesn’t happen often where an NFL team or organization gets embarrassed,” Payton told Bell. “And that happened here. Part of it was their own fault, relative to spending so much ***** time trying to win the offseason — the P.R., the pomp and circumstance, marching people around and all this stuff.” That won’t happen this year. Payton is taking a page from the Costanza playbook for 2023. “Everything I heard about last season, we’re doing the opposite,” Payton said. In explaining the decision to just focus on the work, Payton took a backhanded shot at Hackett’s new team in New York. “We’re not doing any of that,” Payton said. “The Jets did that this year. You watch. Hard Knocks, all of it. I can see it coming.” https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/sean-payton-nathaniel-hacketts-performance-in-2022-might-have-been-among-the-worst-ever I don’t love Payton but hearing hip rip Denver, Hackett and NYJ is hilarious. Peak NFL off-season right here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 He’s not wrong about the Jets absolutely positively everything being said about them last year is exactly what people were saying about the 2022 Broncos down to Nate Hackett. ESPN has literally gotten borderline unbearable to watch with the hype they have given this team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 4 hours ago, eball said: When is the last time Sean Payton won anything? Asking for a friend… Check his ring finger. There's a date on it😎 3 hours ago, Gugny said: Be that as it is, it’s still Bush League to call it out to the media. Classless, at best. The truth hurts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35603610/how-saints-free-80m-get-2023-salary-cap The Saints were in cap hell the last 4 or 5 years he was there....The Jets may not live up to the hype but him trying to lecture anyone on not trying to win the off-season is a joke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 25 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: The truth hurts That’s not the point. There is a time and a place for the truth to be spoken. In this case, in front of the media was neither. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 4 hours ago, eball said: When is the last time Sean Payton won anything? Asking for a friend… ….but, what was his winning percentage for his first five years with a franchise QB in his prime in road Championship games? I will now do the proper thing, and apologize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 13 hours ago, Gugny said: That’s not the point. There is a time and a place for the truth to be spoken. In this case, in front of the media was neither. Y'all want Stef Diggs to come out and address his situation to everyone, but want Payton to stay behind closed doors? Payton wants to know why Hackett had the job in the first place? Pundits get on TV and question Mike McCarthy all the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Solomon Grundy said: Y'all want Stef Diggs to come out and address his situation to everyone, but want Payton to stay behind closed doors? Payton wants to know why Hackett had the job in the first place? Pundits get on TV and question Mike McCarthy all the time You paint with a very broad brush! And that’s an odd comparison, primarily because they’re nothing alike in any way, shape or form. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Not sure I'd want our coach to make these comments but characters and comments like this make the NFL more interesting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 So weird to just go after Hackett and the Jets. Like, who cares dude. Sometimes in sport you get these “guru’s” who get by on convincing everybody why their the smartest guy in the room rather than just being the smartest guy in the room. In my experience I know a lot of coaches like this who do exceptional on the junior level, but fall short at the Olympics. Being great at that level requires full focus on you being great rather than putting down others to create a pseudo-talent gap. Not surprising this is who Payton is after falling short with such a prolific passer for so long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: Payton wants to know why Hackett had the job in the first place? Sure, we all do. But to question it in the media like that is in pretty poor taste. "There was some things that happened in the past that we are going to do differently." Thats it. If the Brocos really struggle these comments are going to be very very hard to ignore 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 16 hours ago, JoeF said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35603610/how-saints-free-80m-get-2023-salary-cap The Saints were in cap hell the last 4 or 5 years he was there....The Jets may not live up to the hype but him trying to lecture anyone on not trying to win the off-season is a joke. and would’ve been in the Super Bowl (again) if not for that PI no call vs the rams… 28 minutes ago, Nephilim17 said: Not sure I'd want our coach to make these comments but characters and comments like this make the NFL more interesting. yea, not a swipe i would take but I think a little extra color makes the soap opera we all watch more lively. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, NoSaint said: and would’ve been in the Super Bowl (again) if not for that PI no call vs the rams… yea, not a swipe i would take but I think a little extra color makes the soap opera we all watch more lively. Very true on the Super Bowl No Saint...it all ebbs and flows... Not speculating on what he was thinking when he said this - but there's a difference between acquiring names and acquiring players....he would probably argue that winning the offseason is acquiring players for value...rather than big splashes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 37 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: Sure, we all do. But to question it in the media like that is in pretty poor taste. "There was some things that happened in the past that we are going to do differently." Thats it. If the Brocos really struggle these comments are going to be very very hard to ignore 2 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: Y'all want Stef Diggs to come out and address his situation to everyone, but want Payton to stay behind closed doors? Payton wants to know why Hackett had the job in the first place? Pundits get on TV and question Mike McCarthy all the time Payton isn’t a talking head, he’s leading an NFL team of grown men. There’s no real need for him to have all the answers on why Hackett was hired. It’s not in his job description to dive into that question. Especially not publicly. It does no good other than to inflate his own ego. Officially rooting against the Broncos. What an ash clown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Payton? Who cares. We need to trade for Hopkins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 1 hour ago, NoSaint said: and would’ve been in the Super Bowl (again) if not for that PI no call vs the rams… yea, not a swipe i would take but I think a little extra color makes the soap opera we all watch more lively. On your first point, meh. If Norwood hooks it left. If Allen had Andy Reid. If there was PI called. Ultimately when the book closes those things didn’t happen and the results are the results. There is no trophy for “what ifs”. Ultimately Payton didn’t get the job done. On your second point, the soap opera is part of the fun in sports I totally agree. Finding Sean Payton a total ash hat is part of the fun of the league. I think he’s a blow hard. The league is more fun with guys to hate and guys to love. So keep it coming Sean, I want to keep chastising you on the internet in my spare time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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