JackKemp Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 According to the linked article salary current cap numbers have been released. The Bills are only $1.4M under the cap. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/a-look-at-every-nfl-teams-current-salary-cap-situation-biggest-spenders-in-2023-offseason/?fbclid=IwAR08HoAPmqW9cJlOmOyk1yASe_yfckC2nP3MHgUnHql6xJNg2k2gppiFrgU#lifeg2yeo8s2tkinivc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 Until they restructure someone right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 I'm completely fine staying there as our roster is good enough right now to win a Super Bowl. I don't want to kick the can down the road any more unless a premier RT becomes unexpectedly available. 3 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 How in the world can the Jets have 24m of cap space after adding Rodgers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 (edited) Considering we started at -18.5 over the cap and had 24 Free Agents, to be 1.4 under after signing our draft picks as well as: FS Jordan Poyer (Re-Signed) RB Damien Harris OG Connor McGovern SS Taylor Rapp DT Poona Ford WR Deonte Harty OT Brandon Shell DE Shaq Lawson (Re-Signed) DT Jordan Phillips (Re-Signed) WR Trent Sherfield OG David Edwards RB Latavius Murray P Sam Martin (Re-Signed) QB Kyle Allen OT David Quessenberry (Re-Signed) LB Tyrel Dodson (Re-Signed) LB Tyler Matakevitch (Re-Signed) DE Shane Ray SS Dean Marlowe (Re-Signed) OG Ike Boettger (Re-Signed) LB Travin Howard CB Cam Lewis (Re-Signed) WR Marcell Ateman .... is pretty gosh darn impressive. Edited June 3 by BillsFanForever19 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 41 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said: How in the world can the Jets have 24m of cap space after adding Rodgers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 2 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Thanks Doc. The games people play 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 There is a possibility that the bills don’t want to restructure anybody else this year They might want to save some of those restructures for a future year 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 6 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said: Thanks Doc. The games people play They'll have to pay eventually one way or another. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 11 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Considering we started at -18.5 over the cap and had 24 Free Agents, to be 1.4 under after signing our draft picks as well as: FS Jordan Poyer (Re-Signed) RB Damien Harris OG Connor McGovern SS Taylor Rapp DT Poona Ford WR Deonte Harty OT Brandon Shell DE Shaq Lawson (Re-Signed) DT Jordan Phillips (Re-Signed) WR Trent Sherfield OG David Edwards RB Latavius Murray P Sam Martin (Re-Signed) QB Kyle Allen OT David Quessenberry (Re-Signed) LB Tyrel Dodson (Re-Signed) LB Tyler Matakevitch (Re-Signed) DE Shane Ray SS Dean Marlowe (Re-Signed) OG Ike Boettger (Re-Signed) LB Travin Howard CB Cam Lewis (Re-Signed) WR Marcell Ateman .... is pretty gosh darn impressive. The thing that is impressive about that is Terry Pegula writing those checks. Beane is just doing what most GM's would do if the owner gave them total control of the checkbook. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 (edited) 4 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: There is a possibility that the bills don’t want to restructure anybody else this year They might want to save some of those restructures for a future year Indeed. Or they they might not want to use all of those restructures. It's hardly a requirement. They usually seem to want to go into the season with $4 or $5M quickly available in case of injuries and such. But perhaps they just consider keeping a near-automatic re-structure or two in hand instead. Edited June 3 by Thurman#1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 2 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: They'll have to pay eventually one way or another. Yeah and since cap dollars roll over..........having $24M in space is merely accounting. At some point in the near future they will have to realize and absorb that $58M for playing this season. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 19 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said: Thanks Doc. The games people play Don’t even worry about the cap teams always find the money see the Saints somehow adding Derek Carr for 125 million. It just depends on if you want to rebuild everything or kick the can down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 5 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Don’t even worry about the cap teams always find the money see the Saints somehow adding Derek Carr for 125 million. It just depends on if you want to rebuild everything or kick the can down the road. Always? Just not true. We see all the deals that go through. We don't see any of the deals where teams say, "Nope, can't do it," or "can't do it and stay in the kind of cap shape we want to maintain." The one example we know of is the Saints and Clowney. The Saints tried to grab him and the NFL disallowed the gymnastics they found necessary to accomplish it. Because the Saints went public in trying to do it, we heard about it, whereas when teams can't do it you simply don't hear. Pushing the cap can narrow your options and eventually, if you go far enough, force a rebuild before you otherwise would rather do that. It can be pushed thoughtfully and carefully. This is how Beane seems to like to work. Pretty much every team kicks a few cans. Kick too many, though, and the road ahead of you gets constricted with them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 47 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: Always? Just not true. We see all the deals that go through. We don't see any of the deals where teams say, "Nope, can't do it," or "can't do it and stay in the kind of cap shape we want to maintain." The one example we know of is the Saints and Clowney. The Saints tried to grab him and the NFL disallowed the gymnastics they found necessary to accomplish it. Because the Saints went public in trying to do it, we heard about it, whereas when teams can't do it you simply don't hear. Pushing the cap can narrow your options and eventually, if you go far enough, force a rebuild before you otherwise would rather do that. It can be pushed thoughtfully and carefully. This is how Beane seems to like to work. Pretty much every team kicks a few cans. Kick too many, though, and the road ahead of you gets constricted with them. The Saints example really isn’t relevant. They weren’t attempting to restructure Clowney and kick the cab down the road, they were simply trying to trade a 2nd round pick for $5M in cash. Which has never been done before in NFL history with a free agent. It was an outlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 2 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said: How in the world can the Jets have 24m of cap space after adding Rodgers I thought that his cap hit was minimum this year and something like 99M next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 3 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said: Thanks Doc. The games people play Yeah.. this, and they’ve hit the jackpot in the Draft recently. They have many great young players still on rookie deals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 The cap is just accounting. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 5 hours ago, Doc Brown said: A dangerous game to be playing w a guy who will hang you out to dry with no remorse. I hope he sucks this year and decides to retire. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 (edited) 12 minutes ago, DCofNC said: A dangerous game to be playing w a guy who will hang you out to dry with no remorse. I hope he sucks this year and decides to retire. Agree. Doing that with Tom Brady who is desperate to win is one thing. Doing it with Aaron who is a much more temperamental personality is another. Edited June 3 by GunnerBill 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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