RD 3, Pick 91: LB Dorian Williams, Tulane

[MrEpsYtown]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Saw Bernard at OTAs and he looked like he hasn’t lifted all offseason.

I’m betting Spector looks amazing since he spent his entire offseason here. There is something to be said for that. 

[bearcat]

2 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

I’m betting Spector looks amazing since he spent his entire offseason here. There is something to be said for that. 

 

Hopefully. I'm nervous of a Dodson/Klein platoon.

[Ralonzo]

13 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

I’m betting Spector looks amazing since he spent his entire offseason here. There is something to be said for that. 

 

Spector looked there were 3 of him on the field at times last preseason. He's still kind of an afterthough because of not getting a sniff in the regular season, but he was a definite factor against 2's and 3's last August. If he takes a step, he might get a look.

[MrEpsYtown]

7 minutes ago, bearcat said:

 

Hopefully. I'm nervous of a Dodson/Klein platoon.

I don’t think Klein is in the discussion. He is there as insurance if it all goes FUBAR. Dodson is going to start out as Beane said “leader of the clubhouse.” Spector and Williams are clearly better athletes, and it is going to come down to their knowledge of the scheme and ability to get everyone lined up. From all accounts Spector and Williams are very intelligent football players. Bernard is also, from all accounts highly intelligent. But I just don’t think he’s the guy. 

[BBFL]

1 hour ago, bearcat said:

 

Hopefully. I'm nervous of a Dodson/Klein platoon.

Well we are about to find out real quick if Dodson just hasn’t had his moment to shine in confidence going into his 4th year… There was no way Milano and Edmunds were going to be leapfrogged regardless of how much people disliked the latter. 

[SCBills]

Interesting to hear Beane say Dorian Williams size/skill-set absolutely lends itself to the MLB position in our Defense, but what is holding him back from potentially being a strong candidate to win the it out the gate is to not put too much on his plate.  
 

I mean.. if we drafted Campbell or Sanders, would he be saying the same thing?

 

 

[balln]

2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Saw Bernard at OTAs and he looked like he hasn’t lifted all offseason.

I thought Dorian Williams pick pretty much cemented to beane / coaches “yup bernard was a complete bust / special teams train until rookie deal over and then on the chopping block”

2 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Interesting to hear Beane say Dorian Williams size/skill-set absolutely lends itself to the MLB position in our Defense, but what is holding him back from potentially being a strong candidate to win the it out the gate is to not put too much on his plate.  
 

I mean.. if we drafted Campbell or Sanders, would he be saying the same thing?

 

 

Yea just beane blah blah blahhhhing to media 

[akm0404]

Linebackers are a crapshoot who knows if he will be any good. Either way we are going to get abused at the LOS and our path to victory will be scoring early and often and funneling opponents into our strength (the secondary). 
 

if teams keep it close enough to physically dominate our defense, we have lost. That just isn’t how this team intends to play defense, which is why we favor speedy/rangy linebackers that can cover. There is no inside thumper coming to save us. 

[AuntieEm]

5 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

I’m betting Spector looks amazing since he spent his entire offseason here. There is something to be said for that. 

 

  What are the rules of how much a player can have contact with coaches in off season?  I mean could the defensive coaches work with Spector in film room where they can get him better at maybe handling the play calls for a mlb in our system?  Maybe he needs more work in that aspect  and not sure how much work of that type is allowed ny league.

 

 

 

[John from Riverside]

3 hours ago, akm0404 said:

Linebackers are a crapshoot who knows if he will be any good. Either way we are going to get abused at the LOS and our path to victory will be scoring early and often and funneling opponents into our strength (the secondary). 
 

if teams keep it close enough to physically dominate our defense, we have lost. That just isn’t how this team intends to play defense, which is why we favor speedy/rangy linebackers that can cover. There is no inside thumper coming to save us. 

Let’s wait to see what they do in free agency at the defensive line. We’re not done yet.
 

You get Melvin, Ingram and Poona Ford in here and this defensive line looks a lot different

[VW82]

Our Dline isn't the problem. We have an abundance of talent there. Our issue is we don't have a back up 1-tech if DaQuan gets hurt and we don't have a classic Mike to shore up the run d. This is only a problem vs teams who can both run and pass (e.g. Bengals, historically Pats). You can't have everything. 

[QLBillsFan]

7 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Saw Bernard at OTAs and he looked like he hasn’t lifted all offseason.

Really.. BB said he was impressed with his progress and will get a shot. Dodson looked solid at times. It will be interesting to see who starts and how much rotation takes place ? Do they approach like DL or let one guy get most snaps? 

4 hours ago, balln said:

I thought Dorian Williams pick pretty much cemented to beane / coaches “yup bernard was a complete bust / special teams train until rookie deal over and then on the chopping block”

Yea just beane blah blah blahhhhing to media 

Actually heard the same. Sounds like he will play MLB at some point in his career. 

[John from Riverside]

8 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Saw Bernard at OTAs and he looked like he hasn’t lifted all offseason.

To be perfectly clear on this this is why Dorian was drafted. If Bernard does not work out, you’re going to see a quick switch.
 

Because clearly, Dorian has been working out that kid is yoked

[BringBackFlutie]

9 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Saw Bernard at OTAs and he looked like he hasn’t lifted all offseason.

 

How much do you think he's lifted until this year?

[Buffalo_Stampede]

38 minutes ago, BringBackFlutie said:

 

How much do you think he's lifted until this year?

I don’t know, Bernard just doesn’t look like an NFL LB.

I saw Williams at his press conference, he looked like he plays LB.

 

Edited May 2, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede

[John from Riverside]

14 hours ago, Ralonzo said:

 

Spector looked there were 3 of him on the field at times last preseason. He's still kind of an afterthough because of not getting a sniff in the regular season, but he was a definite factor against 2's and 3's last August. If he takes a step, he might get a look.

I’m sure it would probably put people at ease due to him being a bigger player never going to count him out because I also thought that he looked good when he got his preseason opportunities
 

I’m telling you though I like Dorian Williams. The guy is 5 pounds lighter than Lavonte, David, and the same height. He’s not too small.

[bmur66]

DW appears to me to be a better fit in the Milano role. That is what I see from watching his highlights but what do I know?

[Kmart128]

8 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I don’t know, Bernard just doesn’t look like an NFL LB.

I saw Williams at his press conference, he looked like he plays LB.

 

I think people are just witnessing the evolution of the game. Its a passing league. Its a spread out league. You now need Linebackers who can run and cover. The NFL is getting faster by putting more recievers onto the field at once. Its only natural to combat speed with speed. I think the more the league becomes a passing league the smaller LBers are getting.

 

I also think that many kids growing up see Von Miller success as an edge rusher. They see that he has been super successful at a smaller weight so now 240lbs and 250lbs high school and college players realize they can make more money as edge rushers tham ILBs.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

4 hours ago, bmur66 said:

DW appears to me to be a better fit in the Milano role. That is what I see from watching his highlights but what do I know?

2 Milano’s isn’t a bad thing.

[Mat68]

17 hours ago, SCBills said:

Interesting to hear Beane say Dorian Williams size/skill-set absolutely lends itself to the MLB position in our Defense, but what is holding him back from potentially being a strong candidate to win the it out the gate is to not put too much on his plate.  
 

I mean.. if we drafted Campbell or Sanders, would he be saying the same thing?

 

 

Maybe.  Beane is pretty quick to temper expectations for day 2 picks.