PrimeTime101 Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 With Technology advancing>? I think more and more players are going to start getting caught if they do not smarten up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 24 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: He wasn't cleared by anyone. He just wasn't charged. Big difference. Also, several teams knew about the allegations before draft day. (AP): "Executives from two different teams told The Associated Press they became aware of Araiza’s involvement in an incident during the draft process, but neither person knew the extent of the allegations", meaning all the sordid details. He wasn't charged by anyone. The poster said we "drafted a rapist punter" when referencing our dark side of the franchise. I don't care that 2 other teams heard something, the fact remains, the Buffalo Bills did NOT know of the allegations on draft night and then willfully drafted him. Like most the world, they found out after the draft. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: He wasn't charged by anyone. The poster said we "drafted a rapist punter" when referencing our dark side of the franchise. I don't care that 2 other teams heard something, the fact remains, the Buffalo Bills did NOT know of the allegations on draft night and then willfully drafted him. Like most the world, they found out after the draft. And then we found out that the statutory rape charge was bogus and he was cleared of it, and by lying about that, the rest of her allegations had no merit. And at the civil trial we'll probably find out he wasn't even at the house when the gang rape occurred, if it gets that far (at least as far as he is concerned). Edited April 22, 2023 by Doc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Doc said: And then we found out that the statutory rape charge was bogus and he was cleared of it, and by lying about that, the rest of her allegations had no merit. And at the civil trial we'll probably find out he wasn't even at the house when the gang rape occurred, if it gets that far (at least as far as he is concerned). he wasn’t “cleared” of anything. That would require his day in court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 13 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: he wasn’t “cleared” of anything. That would require his day in court. Suspects are “cleared” by the police (and DAs) all the time, when they decline to bring charges or drop pending charges. You don’t need a “not guilty” verdict after a trial to be cleared of something. 19 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: he wasn’t “cleared” of anything. That would require his day in court. Quote from the DA in the Araiza case: "Ultimately, prosecutors determined it is clear the evidence does not support the filing of criminal charges and there is no path to a potential criminal conviction," the district attorney's office said in a statement. If that's not "cleared", I don't know what is. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 51 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: he wasn’t “cleared” of anything. That would require his day in court. What court? The allegations didn't even merit charges, much less taking him to court. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Doc said: What court? The allegations didn't even merit charges, much less taking him to court. You understand the difference. Why pretend otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: You understand the difference. Why pretend otherwise. You know it didn't happen. Why pretend otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 25 minutes ago, Doc said: You know it didn't happen. Why pretend otherwise. Look who you are going back and forth with. Our village is there for him. We take turns. It will be OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Augie said: Look who you are going back and forth with. Our village is there for him. We take turns. It will be OK. I know but he brings it on himself. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Doc said: I know but he brings it on himself. He must enjoy it on some level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 (edited) On 4/21/2023 at 11:55 AM, 17islongenough said: I'm curious on why some are suspended for 6 games while the others are suspended for a year. From the article the 6 game suspensions were for betting from team facility and their bets were on some college games. The indefinite suspensions were assessed for players that bet on NFL games again from team facilities. So the betting on college games was not gonna damage the shield as much as a bet on an NFL game does. The indefinite can apply for reinstatement for the next years season so it's called a 1 yr suspension. However it can be permanent if the player fails to take any steps the league requires of them. If a player was a truly addicted gambler that can't stop he'd never play again. Edited April 23, 2023 by AuntieEm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 (edited) And then there is this: Witness: Matt Araiza 'left the party' before sex acts began in bedroom Looks like there won't even be a civil trial. Edited April 23, 2023 by Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 13 hours ago, Augie said: He must enjoy it on some level. yet you can't stop commenting. It's a compulsion, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethro_tull Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 The NFL made its own bed with such sponsorships and allegiances to sports betting including a team in Las Vegas. I expect to see more of this and worse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steinsman1981 Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 It's always disappointing to hear about players getting suspended for gambling violations. Players need to abide by the rules and regulations set by the NFL to maintain the integrity of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 I love the sport of football & the Bills - but my goodness is there any limit to the hypocrisy of the NFL regarding gambling. They are in bed with the gambling industry - their profits are greatly enhanced by people gambling on their games - yet feel they can act surprised when issues like this crop up. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, Bulldog said: I love the sport of football & the Bills - but my goodness is there any limit to the hypocrisy of the NFL regarding gambling. They are in bed with the gambling industry - their profits are greatly enhanced by people gambling on their games - yet feel they can act surprised when issues like this crop up. They need to be beyond strict regarding betting on NFL games….. but players not being able to place a bet on non NFL games while in a team Facility is beyond stupid. Anyone know what this rule is in place for? What does it protect? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzboy54 Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 On 4/21/2023 at 11:41 AM, Warriorspikes51 said: Honestly why does the NFL care about that so much when they don't care about women abusers? The league makes BILLIONS from Gambling. Hypocrisy You answered your own question. They are protecting that revenue by not allowing even the appearance of thrown games. They don't make a dime on domestic abuse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mynamemike Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Bulldog said: I love the sport of football & the Bills - but my goodness is there any limit to the hypocrisy of the NFL regarding gambling. They are in bed with the gambling industry - their profits are greatly enhanced by people gambling on their games - yet feel they can act surprised when issues like this crop up. Agreed and if I remember correctly they avoided having a team in Vegas for the very reason that it could compromise the game. Yet here we are with non stop advertising for sports books. It’s sad, I’m watching good friends blow money they don’t have on this. At least when they had to go to the off track wagering or bookie, it limited how often they would gamble. Now they’ll gamble on literally anything all the time, it’s pretty wild to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 11 minutes ago, Mynamemike said: Agreed and if I remember correctly they avoided having a team in Vegas for the very reason that it could compromise the game. Yet here we are with non stop advertising for sports books. It’s sad, I’m watching good friends blow money they don’t have on this. At least when they had to go to the off track wagering or bookie, it limited how often they would gamble. Now they’ll gamble on literally anything all the time, it’s pretty wild to watch. The NFL does not seem to realize that the long-term effects of tying their business so closely to the gambling industry may not serve to maximize their profits and might possibly cause their massive money-making enterprise to crumble someday. " " 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 Gambling is why there were never any pro teams in Vegas. That's changed obviously as the league is now in bed with major gambling franchises.... simply too much money to be made. That said, I agree with the swift and severe punishment for any player who bets on the league that employees them.... this is basically insider trading, and players should continue to face severe discipline for such infractions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steinsman1981 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 On 5/10/2023 at 8:54 AM, Steinsman1981 said: It's always disappointing to hear about players getting suspended for gambling violations. Players need to abide by the rules and regulations set by the NFL to maintain the integrity of the game. If you're looking for a safe and fun way to enjoy gambling, you should check out http://asyu2017.org/slot-siteleri/. They offer a variety of slot games that you can play online without breaking any rules or regulations. Remember to always gamble responsibly and never bet more than you can afford to lose. Let's hope these players learn their lesson and come back stronger after their suspensions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 (edited) On 5/10/2023 at 1:03 PM, Bulldog said: I love the sport of football & the Bills - but my goodness is there any limit to the hypocrisy of the NFL regarding gambling. They are in bed with the gambling industry - their profits are greatly enhanced by people gambling on their games - yet feel they can act surprised when issues like this crop up. Its being done for the same reason employees who work for publicly traded companies arent allowed to sell off stocks if they have knowledge of an impending dip. It makes complete sense for the NFL to come down hard on these players. You can bet on just about anything these days, just dont poo where you eat. Not a lot to ask for at will employees who are paid handsomely to follow the rules set forth for them. If the team or NFL has rule regarding not betting on other leagues in an NFL facility, just follow it. Hypocrisy or not, the team signs your paycheck. You're an employee. Edited May 15, 2023 by thenorthremembers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 League rewards Detroit with opening night 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: League rewards Detroit with opening night Or punishes those four players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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