Chicago

[Tommy Callahan]

6 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

New Chicago mayor’s economic blueprint is… something else

 

 

After years of shootings, riots, looting, police quitting and businesses leaving the city, Chicago voters recently decided they’d had enough of left-wing policies.

 

Wait, no they didn’t — they elected a Democrat who is even farther to the Left than they mayor they voted out of office.

 

Now it’s time for the city to find out what they voted for. Mayor Brandon Johnson has released his economic blueprint, and it’s something:

 

 

I don't think they could have formed a better plan to chase people out of the city if they tried.

 

.https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2023/05/17/new-chicago-mayors-economic-blueprint-is-something-else/

All that and cutting Police budget by 9% across the board.

 

 

 

 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

53 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

New Chicago mayor’s economic blueprint is… something else

 

 

After years of shootings, riots, looting, police quitting and businesses leaving the city, Chicago voters recently decided they’d had enough of left-wing policies.

 

Wait, no they didn’t — they elected a Democrat who is even farther to the Left than they mayor they voted out of office.

 

Now it’s time for the city to find out what they voted for. Mayor Brandon Johnson has released his economic blueprint, and it’s something:

 

 

I don't think they could have formed a better plan to chase people out of the city if they tried.

 

.https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2023/05/17/new-chicago-mayors-economic-blueprint-is-something-else/

a live shot of the future of chi-town 

[Big Blitz]

2 hours ago, Chris farley said:

All that and cutting Police budget by 9% across the board.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Omg

 

 

 

[Big Blitz]

 

[aristocrat]

 

[ChiGoose]

12 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

 

Yup, this was one of the worst deals anyone has ever done. Mayor Daley sold the parking meters for quick cash to support political allies. 

[Big Blitz]

 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

Gov. Pritzker hopes Chicagoans feel safer with ‘yellow-vested Peacekeepers’ on the streets

 

Just ahead of the start of Memorial Day weekend, WGN reported that 12 people were shot in Chicago overnight, three of them fatally:

 

But Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker wants everybody in the city to know that they should feel much safer this weekend because of a new security measure:

 

This weekend, Chicagoans should expect to see yellow-vested Peacekeepers on the streets.

As part of the state's anti-violence strategy with a community-focused approach, these outreach workers will help de-escalate and keep our neighborhoods safe. 

https://t.co/Qu1cquGaHB

 

— Governor JB Pritzker (@GovPritzker) May 25, 2023

 

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2023/05/27/gov-pritzker-hopes-chicagoans-feel-safer-with-yellow-vested-peacekeepers-on-the-streets/

 

 

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[B-Man]

 

 

Gunfire shuts down popular Chicago beach hours after opening for the season

by Patrick Reilly

 

A Chicago beach was closed hours after it opened for the summer season when shots were fired during a large brawl on Friday, according to police. The fight broke out among a group of 80 to 100 teenagers at North Avenue Beach around 1:30 p.m., police said. During the fracas, someone pulled out a gun and fired a shot, Fox 32 reported. Fortunately, no one was struck. A juvenile was taken into police custody. The weapon has not been recovered, cops said. The beach was temporarily shut down as police investigated.

 

https://nypost.com/2023/05/27/chicagos-north-avenue-beach-shuts-down-after-gunfire-breaks-out-hours-after-opening/

 

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[Over 29 years of fanhood]

Was just at a wedding and speaking with someone in the arts from Chicago… actively working on moving her family to Indiana because despite loving the city the crime has continuing to grow more violent, frequent and pervasive and impacting their community directly. 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

On 5/25/2023 at 8:41 PM, ChiGoose said:

Yup, this was one of the worst deals anyone has ever done. Mayor Daley sold the parking meters for quick cash to support political allies. 

Seems to me in a city where an endless variety of tax schemes are considered, this is a fixable problem if the desire is there. 
 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

Civil Rights Update:

 

Cook County Court Rules Chicago Has No Jurisdiction to Sue Indiana Retailer for Guns Used to Commit Crimes in the City.

 

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/cook-county-court-rules-chicago-has-no-jurisdiction-to-sue-indiana-retailer-for-guns-used-to-commit-crimes-in-the-city/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

STACY MCCAIN: Chicago Group Hired Gangsters to Be ‘Peacekeepers’ and It’s Working Out Just About the Way You Might Expect.

 

 

https://theothermccain.com/2023/05/29/chicago-group-hired-gangsters-to-be-peacekeepers-and-its-working-out-just-about-the-way-you-might-expect/

[BillsFanNC]

 

[JDHillFan]

It’s going to be fun watching this guy “lead”. Good work, Chicagoans!

[Gregg]

On 5/17/2023 at 2:16 PM, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

a live shot of the future of chi-town 

 

Is this Chicago or NYC or LA?

[All_Pro_Bills]

23 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

Its a dance of death between the political machine and the citizens of Chicago where logic is non-existent.  The only people in Chicago that will stop voting Democratic are in the Cemetery.  And its likely many of them are still voting that way every 2, 4, and 6 years. 

Edited May 31, 2023 by All_Pro_Bills

[B-Man]

 

BUT IT’S OKAY BECAUSE IT’S

MEDIA-APPROVED VIOLENCE:  

 

 

Even More Than the Old Boss: Chicago Has Worst Memorial Day Weekend Violence in Over a Decade.

 

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/even-more-than-the-old-boss-chicago-has-worst-memorial-day-weekend-violence-in-over-a-decade/
 

 

[Big Blitz]

 

[ChiGoose]

On 5/31/2023 at 7:32 AM, All_Pro_Bills said:

Its a dance of death between the political machine and the citizens of Chicago where logic is non-existent.  The only people in Chicago that will stop voting Democratic are in the Cemetery.  And its likely many of them are still voting that way every 2, 4, and 6 years. 

The ignorance here is pretty astounding. It’s clear you know nothing about Chicago other than what your bubble force feeds you. The Daleys are gone, and Madigan is going to trial. The establishment mayoral candidate lost. Rochester has a higher homicide rate and Buffalo’s homicide rate is just shy of Chicago.  And yet you spout nonsense about the machine and crime, pretending you know anything about what it’s like to live here. 
 

The violence capital of the country is a fight between St Louis and New Orleans. Chicago’s homicide rate isn’t even half off that of either of those cities, but I guess none of the actual facts fit your narrative. So just keep throwing stones and shouting your ignorance to the world. 
 

Maybe if the GOP had actual real solutions instead of just pandering to the ignorant, they would have a chance. But I wouldn’t hold my breath. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

First place!!!

 

https://www.mystateline.com/news/chicago-named-murder-capital-of-the-u-s-in-new-report/amp/

[ChiGoose]

7 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

First place!!!

 

https://www.mystateline.com/news/chicago-named-murder-capital-of-the-u-s-in-new-report/amp/

What happens when you look at per capita? Or would that make too much sense and not fit the narrative?

[Motorin']

4 hours ago, ChiGoose said:

What happens when you look at per capita? Or would that make too much sense and not fit the narrative?

 

Chicago has 30% more people than the entire state of Maryland. And Maryland had more homicides last year. 

[Westside]

2 hours ago, Motorin' said:

 

Chicago has 30% more people than the entire state of Maryland. And Maryland had more homicides last year. 

I wonder what political party controls those big cities?

[ChiGoose]

8 minutes ago, Westside said:

I wonder what political party controls those big cities?

Is that the only lens you can see the world with? No room for complexity or nuance? Just political party?

[Westside]

Just now, ChiGoose said:

Is that the only lens you can see the world with? No room for complexity or nuance? Just political party?

When it comes to who has the power and how they use it, then yes. The D’s have been in control of big cities in this country for over 50 years. They are a shitshow and only getting worse. 
Don’t put the blame anywhere but where  it belongs. The Democratic Party. 
They make the policies, they control the cities. They allow this to happen. 
With you supporting this shitshow, it makes you responsible as well. 
 

 

[ChiGoose]

1 minute ago, Westside said:

When it comes to who has the power and how they use it, then yes. The D’s have been in control of big cities in this country for over 50 years. They are a shitshow and only getting worse. 
Don’t put the blame anywhere but where  it belongs. The Democratic Party. 
They make the policies, they control the cities. They allow this to happen. 
With you supporting this shitshow, it makes you responsible as well. 
 

 

If your worldview is correct, you’re basically saying that the Democratic Party is completely incompetent and cannot stop crime and yet the GOP is still less appealing to voters. 
 

Maybe not the best argument, but you do you, buddy. 

[Westside]

1 minute ago, ChiGoose said:

If your worldview is correct, you’re basically saying that the Democratic Party is completely incompetent and cannot stop crime and yet the GOP is still less appealing to voters. 
 

Maybe not the best argument, but you do you, buddy. 

You started out good, but like always you finished with a fizzle.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

8 hours ago, ChiGoose said:

What happens when you look at per capita? Or would that make too much sense and not fit the narrative?

Form article 

 

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Ted Dabrowski, president of Wirepoints, said, “You can’t ignore when one city has the most murders in the country. Especially 11 years in a row. And so that’s why it’s also really important to look at the total number of homicides. Chicago has almost 700 homicides. A city that’s much, much larger, like New York, has fewer than 500. So your rates matter, but so does the outright number.”

 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

29 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

If your worldview is correct, you’re basically saying that the Democratic Party is completely incompetent and cannot stop crime and yet the GOP is still less appealing to voters. 
 

Maybe not the best argument, but you do you, buddy. 

Why not the best argument? Not hard to find data that substantiates this quite well particularly if you replace ‘incompetent and’ with ‘deliberately driving policy that’.

 

just like we know republican policy doesn’t appeal to most deadbeats, most ultra wealthy, or any liberal single issue extremists no matter how poorly democrats execute. 

[ChiGoose]

4 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Why not the best argument? Not hard to find data that substantiates this quite well particularly if you replace ‘incompetent and’ with ‘deliberately driving policy that’.

 

just like we know republican policy doesn’t appeal to most deadbeats, most ultra wealthy, or any liberal single issue extremists no matter how poorly democrats execute. 

Because it requires intentional ignorance to believe that all democratic candidates and policies are the same and that Chicago’s gun violence problem is solely the result of Chicago policies. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

33 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

Because it requires intentional ignorance to believe that all democratic candidates and policies are the same and that Chicago’s gun violence problem is solely the result of Chicago policies. 

as much ignorance as it takes to refuse to see what is actually happening and hold politicians accountable? 
 

The progressive political platform is that of muting traditional policing because the demographics of the criminals isn’t equitable. Of course impunity results in criminals doing more crime. Did anyone not expect this? 

[ChiGoose]

20 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

as much ignorance as it takes to refuse to see what is actually happening and hold politicians accountable? 
 

The progressive political platform is that of muting traditional policing because the demographics of the criminals isn’t equitable. Of course impunity results in criminals doing more crime. Did anyone not expect this? 

Buddy, you clearly have no idea what you’re talking about. Maybe just sit this one out instead of declaring your   ignorance to the world.  

[BillsFanNC]

 

"You're ignorant to argue that all dem policies are the same"

 

Now let me tell you about how all GOP policies are the same and lead to the same results.

 

@ChiGoose

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

10 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

Buddy, you clearly have no idea what you’re talking about. Maybe just sit this one out instead of declaring your   ignorance to the world.  

must be it all looks just fine from your grandmas basement. Calling everyone you disagree with ignorant is the pinnacle of ignorant idiocy.  Carry on 😂 

 

[ChiGoose]

21 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

must be it all looks just fine from your grandmas basement. Calling everyone you disagree with ignorant is the pinnacle of ignorant idiocy.  Carry on 😂 

 

Nah, good faith disagreement is fine. Willful ignorance is just tough to tolerate. 
 

Not that it matters, but I own my home, I actually live in Chicago and my grandparents have been dead for years. But you can keep on being foolish. 

[Orlando Tim]

1 hour ago, ChiGoose said:

Because it requires intentional ignorance to believe that all democratic candidates and policies are the same and that Chicago’s gun violence problem is solely the result of Chicago policies. 

This post and the next few need to be explained because it seems you are stating that the reason Chicago is an outlier in gun violence is caused by people who are in the normal range. This line of thought is not an obvious connection so I am curious where you are going with it.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

8 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

Nah, good faith disagreement is fine. Willful ignorance is just tough to tolerate. 
 

Not that it matters, but I own my home, I actually live in Chicago and my grandparents have been dead for years. But you can keep on being foolish. 

Any time you want to stimulate good faith disagreement as opposed to droning on repeatedly that everyone else is ignorant- great! You’re not the only person here that has been to that city or knows people from there or that have fled the city because of the spiraling disaster there. 
 

[Doc]

It's only going to get worse for big cities as woke governments and DA's seek to release criminals back on the streets and LEO's continue to retire in droves and replacements don't keep up with need.  I just can't see how anyone would want to enter the police force, much less in a big city.  And then where do you turn?  The military?

[Wacka]

25 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

 

Not that it matters, but I own my home, I actually live in Chicago and my grandparents have been dead for years. But you can keep on being foolish. 

And Grandpa and Grandma vote more often than you do!

[ChiGoose]

5 hours ago, Orlando Tim said:

This post and the next few need to be explained because it seems you are stating that the reason Chicago is an outlier in gun violence is caused by people who are in the normal range. This line of thought is not an obvious connection so I am curious where you are going with it.

There are many reasons Chicago is an outlier in gun violence when compared to NYC and LA. As I stated several times, the real outliers for homicides are St. Louis and New Orleans, but because they are smaller, they don’t have as large raw numbers and therefore don’t generate the clickbait headlines. 
 

A large driver of the violence is that Chicago borders one state with lax gun laws and is less than two hours from another. Illinois and Chicago have enacted gun laws that have made it difficult for criminals to get guns here, but they can still get them next door. That’s why around 60% of the guns used in crimes here come from out of state. One Indiana store less than 5 miles from the city is responsible for over 800 guns recovered from crime scenes in Chicago alone. Neither NYC nor LA have this problem and there’s very little any Dem in Chicago can do to stop it. 
 

People on this board seem to think that just because someone has a “D” after their name that they all believe the same things and policies. This despite the fact that the Chicago mayoral election that just happened was between two Dems with very different views on how to handle crime. One simply wanted to hire more cops. The other wanted more detectives and more focus on preventative measures. It’s telling that all of the neighborhoods with high crime rates voted for the latter, not the former. That might have something to do with the fact that Chicago has 1.5-2x as many cops per resident as similar sized cities. Throwing more cops at the problem would be the definition of doing the same thing and expecting different results. Combining our high number of cops to handle crime when it occurs with an effort to stop crime before it occurs by addressing the root causes of crime seemed to resonate with the people most affected by crime. 

Also, Chicago always has had contentious politics, even if the politicians ostensibly belonged to the same party. Just look at the Council Wars of the 1980’s.

 

Chicago also has a history is disinvestment in certain areas of the city. Despite routinely ranking highly on things like business relocations, tourism, etc, Chicago also has food deserts: areas where there is little to no access to fresh food like produce. We also closed down dozens of schools in a way that necessitates kids crossing gang territory to get to school. It shouldn’t surprise anyone that these same areas often still have lead service lines as well. 
 

In these areas, we’ve basically created incubators for crime through this disinvestment. Kids growing up poor with little opportunity, having to travel through dangerous areas to get an education, potentially impacted by polluted water. They might see crime as the only way they can “make it” or even gang life as the only way to have protection to get around safely.

 

No amount of “tough on crime” policy is going to fix that. There has always been a tension between investment in the business districts, especially the Loop, versus the surrounding neighborhoods.
 

When you have easy access to guns due to neighboring red state policies combined with people growing up in pockets of the city where there is a lack of opportunity due to disinvestment, you’re going to have violent crime. Mayors can have an effect on the latter issue, trying to balance a business friendly environment with generating enough revenue to invest in the city. But there isn’t much they can do about the guns. So long as Indiana (and to a lesser degree Wisconsin), make it easy to smuggle guns into Chicago, the city is going to have a gun problem. 
 

So yeah, when people say that the problem is “voting Dem” they are ignoring the fact that there is a variety of types of Dems in the city, and the fact that one of the biggest drivers of gun violence in Chicago is the Republicans next door. 

5 hours ago, Wacka said:

And Grandpa and Grandma vote more often than you do!

Making a joke out of someone’s dead grandparents is exactly the kind of performative assholery that defines the modern GOP.