Your Bills-related unpopular opinion

[Just in Atlanta]

Even the best fans -- us -- can't evaluate college talent accurately at all. 

I like to go to the Josh Allen draft thread from time to time. 

The very first reaction was "lol". Another: "Rosen was right there". 
 

 

[2003Contenders]

Dick Jauron was somewhat underrated as the Bills head coach from 2006-2009.

 

Yes, he had his shortcomings and could never get past Brady/BB and the Patriots. But...

 

1. During his tenure, the Bills roster was woeful in the talent department.

2. Managed to get to 7-9 with JP Losman at QB -- and the Bills were in the playoff hunt until the final week of the season.

3. 2007 team was injury riddled with a then record # of guys on IR. Still went with 7-9 with Losman and Edwards at QB.

4. Got off to a hot 4-0 start before Edwards got his his brain scrambled in Arizona. Edwards (and the team) never psychologically recovered.

 

Again, not suggesting he was a great coach (still shudder at "It's hard to win in the NFL") -- just that he did a much better job of playing the hand he was dealt than many remember.

[corta765]

21 minutes ago, 2003Contenders said:

Dick Jauron was somewhat underrated as the Bills head coach from 2006-2009.

 

So I don't know if I would say he was underrated, but with a little more luck in a few very tight games the drought probably starts after 06 or 07. I think he was an average couch and the bounces really went against him as a coach. Jauron to me was a coach who the league started passing by at this point, for the early 2000s and earlier he was fine for how the league played its games. He was about ball control, playing safe, running the ball, and limiting mistakes to give yourself a chance. The problem was by 06-07 the league was morphing into an aerial show that rewarded aggression not conservativeness. Plus throw in the NE factor that you had perhaps the best team in the league yearly to contend with it almost always left you at an 0-2 starting point.

 

06- AFC Wildcard was taken by the 9-7 Chiefs. The Bills went 7-9 with one score losses to at NE, NYJ, at DET, at IND, SD, and TEN. Week 17 at BAL meant nothing so hard to know what happens if it matters, but literally a bounce or two makes that week different with BUF 8-7 or even 9-6. It isn't a stretch to say they were close and as we saw in 2017 it doesn't take much to alter everything.

07- AFC Wildcard was 10-6 that year by the Titans. The Bills actually were 7-6 with 3 weeks to go and again had four one score losses including the infamous DEN and DAL choke jobs. Same scenario as 06' week 17 was a nothing game at PHI so with a bounce or two again (or DEN and DAL missed FGs) BUF might be playing for something.

08- Same old story better start with crappier finish and again three tight losses to CLE, at NYJ, and SF that alter trajectory of things. I have always though had the Bills beat CLE on the last second FG they would've been alright, instead I think it broke them mentally and pressure wise as they had no wiggle room.

 

Regardless even if Jauron goes 10-6 in 07' for insistence to make the playoffs they are one and done and we end up in a similar place. The only change might have been Buffalo is picking in the draft top 3 with Luck and RG3 instead of the year prior with Cam.

[Drew21PA]

On 3/25/2023 at 11:04 AM, QB Bills said:

A few of mine:

 

James Cook is a below average RB and is a significant step down from Motor.

 

The biggest position of need on the team is the d-line and they should use their first round pick on a lineman (again).

 

Ken Dorsey is a better playcaller than Brian Daboll. But Daboll knew how to coach Allen better.

 

The Bills will never have a head coaching advantage in a playoff game under this regime.

Only agree with number 2

 

giving 4 one more year

[Nihilarian]

While I think Beane is a great GM. Brandon Beane's shortcomings started in 2018 when Josh Allen was thrown to the wolves in his very first game against the Ravens and even after seeing him and Peterman getting sacked 6x and he still hasn't built that offensive lineup to where it should be. 

 

Perhaps McD has had far too much say in who gets drafted over the last few years. So many firsts for the D line.

 

Yes, QB Josh Allen first in 2018, but then ILB, DT, CB, CB, OG who was Wyatt Teller! WR, WR.  (Find the clown who gave the okay to trade a future all-pro OG in Teller and fire him! Then if the trade was initiated by the Browns...hire that guy who saw the potential.)

 

2019, OT converted to OG who stunk! Does this seem like a trend that whoever is scouting the offensive line for the Buffalo Bills is kinda clueless? Perhaps RB scout too? Singletary is now gone.  Moss is gone.

 

If I were Beane, I'd take a long hard look at some of the scouts

[Drew21PA]

Here

 

unpopular opinion is Gabe Davis just had an off year and he will be alright next year.

 

edmunds was the right call to let walk - poyer DEFINITELY needed to come back

 

Damar Hamlin should just retire  has such an amazing opportunity to keep going on what he’s been doing since he was injured - I mean he just met the president which is pretty huge 

 

gonna get blasted for this

i think with more run attempts our running backs would have been alright.  We seemed to have gotten in numerous grooves then OC said screw it back to the passes

 

 

one example was when Josh threw the stupid pick against the dolphins - cook just ran back to back 15 yard runs and we were in solid position - same with Green Bay game he got cook going then threw a puck at the feet of Alexander in their red zone 

[Billl]

Beane got lucky in the 2018 draft.  If Allen had been taken instead of Mayfield or Darnold, Beane would be out of a job by now.  While he deserves credit for picking the right Josh, that pick shouldn’t be taken into account when evaluating him going forward given the fact that he’ll probably never be in a situation to draft a QB with a top 10 pick again.

[stuvian]

This team is built like the pre-Terrell Davis, John Elway era Broncos. A great QB supported by a back 7 D who can't tackle, an OL who can't run block and RBs that can't convert on short yardage. Everything is down to Allen and Diggs. 

 

Built for a dome yet playing outside in winter. D-oh

[Cusefan66214]

The Chiefs will win every super bowl until I die

 

 

[GunnerBill]

12 hours ago, Nihilarian said:

While I think Beane is a great GM. Brandon Beane's shortcomings started in 2018 when Josh Allen was thrown to the wolves in his very first game against the Ravens and even after seeing him and Peterman getting sacked 6x and he still hasn't built that offensive lineup to where it should be. 

 

Perhaps McD has had far too much say in who gets drafted over the last few years. So many firsts for the D line.

 

Yes, QB Josh Allen first in 2018, but then ILB, DT, CB, CB, OG who was Wyatt Teller! WR, WR.  (Find the clown who gave the okay to trade a future all-pro OG in Teller and fire him! Then if the trade was initiated by the Browns...hire that guy who saw the potential.)

 

2019, OT converted to OG who stunk! Does this seem like a trend that whoever is scouting the offensive line for the Buffalo Bills is kinda clueless? Perhaps RB scout too? Singletary is now gone.  Moss is gone.

 

If I were Beane, I'd take a long hard look at some of the scouts

 

Scouting doesn't work that way. You don't have an "offensive line scout" and a "running back scout". The scouts specialise by geographical area not by position. 

[BillsFanForever19]

13 hours ago, Drew21PA said:

Damar Hamlin should just retire  has such an amazing opportunity to keep going on what he’s been doing since he was injured - I mean he just met the president which is pretty huge 

 

Even if he doesn't play this season, he needs to be on the team. You don't become a vested NFL player eligible for benefits and a pension until you have 3 years in the league. He's only had 2. He deserves at least that.

[LabattBlue]

17 hours ago, Just in Atlanta said:

Even the best fans -- us -- can't evaluate college talent accurately at all. 

^^^ This.  👍🏻

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

10 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Scouting doesn't work that way. You don't have an "offensive line scout" and a "running back scout". The scouts specialise by geographical area not by position. 

Bottom line:  The scouts are probably better at rating regional breweries than collegiate players by position.

🤔

It's observations like mine that explain why I politely declined to participate in Virgil's draft. 😇

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EDIT: Upon further reflection, and based upon how some draft picks have 'panned out', it is entirely possible the scouts are way more involved in the beer than the players being rated. 

Edited April 7, 2023 by Ridgewaycynic2013

[Shemp]

Playoff and Super Bowl games are all fixed.

 

Josh has "squirrel head."

Edited April 7, 2023 by Blah Blah

[Nitro]

21 hours ago, Nihilarian said:

While I think Beane is a great GM. Brandon Beane's shortcomings started in 2018 when Josh Allen was thrown to the wolves in his very first game against the Ravens and even after seeing him and Peterman getting sacked 6x and he still hasn't built that offensive lineup to where it should be. 

 

Perhaps McD has had far too much say in who gets drafted over the last few years. So many firsts for the D line.

 

Yes, QB Josh Allen first in 2018, but then ILB, DT, CB, CB, OG who was Wyatt Teller! WR, WR.  (Find the clown who gave the okay to trade a future all-pro OG in Teller and fire him! Then if the trade was initiated by the Browns...hire that guy who saw the potential.)

 

2019, OT converted to OG who stunk! Does this seem like a trend that whoever is scouting the offensive line for the Buffalo Bills is kinda clueless? Perhaps RB scout too? Singletary is now gone.  Moss is gone.

 

If I were Beane, I'd take a long hard look at some of the scouts

 OG is viewed as least valuable in drafting by the team.  Other organizations have similar POV.  Singletary was a rock solid player and matched where he was drafted.  Hindsight is 20/20 when drafting.  

[Punching Bag]

Teams can have great seasons even if not one seed.

[Nineforty]

the talent on the Bills in 2022 was enough to win a super bowl. 

[The Jokeman]

The Bills will win a Super Bowl within plus or minus 5 years of the new stadium opening. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

18 hours ago, stuvian said:

This team is built like the pre-Terrell Davis, John Elway era Broncos. A great QB supported by a back 7 D who can't tackle, an OL who can't run block and RBs that can't convert on short yardage. Everything is down to Allen and Diggs. 

 

Built for a dome yet playing outside in winter. D-oh

Now that you mention it, I have often felt there wasn't a three touchdown lead safe against the Elway Broncos, even early in the fourth quarter.

[Solomon Grundy]

1 hour ago, Nineforty said:

the talent on the Bills in 2022 was enough to win a super bowl. 

... When healthy