Texas RB Bijan Robinson

[Thurman#1]

On 1/20/2023 at 4:03 PM, BrainwashedBillsFan said:

We don’t need a RB, we need to upgrade some pieces to the oline. LG RT and C in that order 

 

 

Yup. This.

 

And DL, S and WR probably.

 

Edited January 24, 2023 by Thurman#1

[Thurman#1]

7 hours ago, Warcodered said:

So this is the new Breece Hall thread?

 

 

Doubtless.

[John from Riverside]

6 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

Yup. This.

 

And DL, S and WR probably.

 

I think we’ve got one more year of Mitch Morse, and then Ryan bates takes over at center
 

 

[filthymcnasty08]

Would you rather have Breece Hall and a 2nd Rd. corner

 

OR

 

Elam/Cook?  

 

Cook - 1/3rd of snaps in our biggest game of the year

 

Elam - hardly played but showed promise

 

Breece Hall, before the injury, was OROY

 

We have been finessing RB for far too long.   

[SCBills]

9 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Bijan is an every down RB that can split out wide and threaten a defense deep. He's the weapon Beane wanted in McKissic

I can’t handle another off-season where we do this ….

 

It was either Howard or Jeremy yesterday:

 

We need a WR

 

”oh, you want a RB?”

 

No, a WR

 

”oh, ok, so a TE?”

 

No! A WR…

 

”Ah, ok, got it .. pass catching RB”

[Don Otreply]

We need WRs & O-lineman, not RBs, 

RBs we got, 

[Chicken Boo]

People really think we don't need to upgrade the RB position?  🤭

 

Every year I feel like I'm banging the table for a DK Metcalf or a Breece Hall and every year there's majority resistance.

 

Some of you never learn. 

 

And of course the offensive line needs retooling.  That goes without saying.

[BobbyC81]

23 hours ago, DCOrange said:

Our RBs ran for over 1400 yards this year. How much do you think we’d realistically get with a better RB? 

Also, look at the YPC.  They were very good.  Problem was not running enough.

[NastyNateSoldiers]

On 1/20/2023 at 9:03 AM, BrainwashedBillsFan said:

We don’t need a RB, we need to upgrade some pieces to the oline. LG RT and C in that order 

People here amaze me how much they lack actual football intelligence. There’s more to the game then just throwing the football u need balance u need a threat other then your QB. If the Bills don’t invest in a elite type running back weather it’s via draft , trade or free agency they would be making a awful mistake. We already have been running Josh Allen to the ground physically and mentally he has to much pressure on him to be great every time he’s on the field. We all can agree that we want Allen to have a full career and last for at least 15yrs playing at a high level if we don’t protect him with Oline play and elite running game he won’t last to yr 10. 
 

The advantage of having a true threat at tailback also will help greatly with schemes and the way defenses approach playing u. If teams want to drop 7/8 men into coverage we can just hand off the ball and Pk up 7, 8 yards a carry . Defensive coordinators hate getting run on more then anything else and will do whatever it takes to not get run over by there opponents it’s demoralizing and it wears the defense down.  I believe the Bills need to upgrade there offensive line and Wrs this off-season but they also need a true 3 down back that has power and speed to attack the defense on all angles. Adding an elite tailback will also help our WRS and passing more then u can imagine and can make this offense deadly for there opponents. Especially in the playoffs where we play in bad weather conditions we have something that’s very hard to defend we need to build for our environment. Now this doesn’t mean can’t throw the ball 35/40 times a game we still can be a pass first team but when we run those 18-25 plays we can put stress on our opponents.. 

[Solomon Grundy]

16 hours ago, Warcodered said:

So this is the new Breece Hall thread?

The question should be "did we learn anything from that thread"? 

[machine gun kelly]

We are not a big running team.  Our strength is in the pass and need to keep adding there.  My feelings are we add a speed WR and a possession contested catch WR.  We had opportunities with Hines and Cook for a pass catching option and didn’t take it.

 

What does that tell you?

 

just look at Cincy’s trio and how they dismantled us.  Can you imagine Allen with a stud trio like these guys?

 

For our run game to improve, it’s not the RB’s, it’s the Guards.  Saffold was awful and Bates and Boettger weren’t much better.  Morse has been a steady eddy, Dion has been solid, and although we wanted another step forward from Brown, sometimes these guys need three years to develop.  He’ll be fine.  Bates and Boettger are fine for backups.  Ques is a decent backup swing Tackle, just not a starter.

[1onemangang7]

11 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

 

He most certainly is not

Trung candidate the 2nd. Whiffs on blocks and wrs get blown up. Singletary schools him in protection. You need a workhorse back since the leauge is trending that way again with fantasy all but dead. Not another useless target for Josh to hustle back to the line for after running for 8 yards.

[1onemangang7]

10 hours ago, Nitro said:

That is an inane take.  

So by your assessment it'd be insane to mock a rb #1 to the Bills. I understand you root for the guys in the uniform but cmon man

[1onemangang7]

Think about it. The whole world thinks you need a running back and should be favorites to win the superbowl. You guys wanna give Cook the rock, or put a roof on the stadium. Then get your ass kicked in your own environment cause youre the less physical team and run your lightweight back east and west looking for a lane cause only then nobody would catch him. 

Edited January 24, 2023 by 1onemangang7

[Warriorspikes51]

1st round absolutely MUST be an offensive player 

[T master]

I feel this is exactly the type of back the Bills need & have passed on the last few years looking at his college stats i'm with you i'd go all in on getting a guy like him if he could produce even close to what he did in college it would be a immediate upgrade to the offense as long as they use him !! 

[Billz4ever]

On 1/20/2023 at 12:17 AM, Tipster19 said:

Is there any shot for the Bills to draft him? He sure would make our offense a whole bunch different.

 

https://youtube.com/watch?v=5Mmtfmqb0MI&feature=shares

 

Why would we draft a RB over a WR?  We do not have a legit WR2 right now and that's hurting our WR1.

 

This draft should be WR and OL exclusively.  We fix those and we take some attention off Diggs, give Josh time to throw, and actually open holes for Cook, who is capable of being our feature back, especially if he adds some weight this off-season.

16 hours ago, 1onemangang7 said:

Cook is a bust.  

What?  LMAO

[1onemangang7]

3 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

Why would we draft a RB over a WR?  We do not have a legit WR2 right now and that's hurting our WR1.

 

This draft should be WR and OL exclusively.  We fix those and we take some attention off Diggs, give Josh time to throw, and actually open holes for Cook, who is capable of being our feature back, especially if he adds some weight this off-season.

What?  LMAO

What what.  You could had anyone fill his production late rounds or off the street

[Billz4ever]

2 minutes ago, 1onemangang7 said:

What what.  You could had anyone fill his production late rounds or off the street

 No, no, and no.

 

There is no justifying taking a RB in this draft, when the glaring needs on offense are clearly WR2 and the OL.  Drafting another RB when we drafted a very capable one in the second round last year, who made clear progress this season and will be even better next season with some better blocking in front of him, would be a complete waste of a pick.

[Tipster19]

One can more easily find an elite WR in the 2nd rd than an elite RB. As far as OL go that can be solved in various ways, through the draft, FA, trade etc etc. I’m over trying to make these 3rd rd RBs into stars, it hasn’t worked. It’s like what the old cliche says, you get what you pay for. Josh is never gonna last, just look at this last game, we got destroyed because Josh wasn’t wearing a Superman cape.

[1onemangang7]

7 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

 No, no, and no.

 

There is no justifying taking a RB in this draft, when the glaring needs on offense are clearly WR2 and the OL.  Drafting another RB when we drafted a very capable one in the second round last year, who made clear progress this season and will be even better next season with some better blocking in front of him, would be a complete waste of a pick.

Well it's what they need for the presentation of Allen. They passed on Hall when he was mocked to them. Now they mock this guy to them. So no matter what you do you need to fill the position or watch your qb wear down again. Cook's proven incapable of that. Not saying it has to be by draft, but has to be addressed. Doubt there's any suckers but Bills fans that'd give anything for him by trade.

[Billz4ever]

9 minutes ago, Tipster19 said:

One can more easily find an elite WR in the 2nd rd than an elite RB. As far as OL go that can be solved in various ways, through the draft, FA, trade etc etc. I’m over trying to make these 3rd rd RBs into stars, it hasn’t worked. It’s like what the old cliche says, you get what you pay for. Josh is never gonna last, just look at this last game, we got destroyed because Josh wasn’t wearing a Superman cape.

Cook was a 2nd round pick, who showed good progression all year the more playing time he got.  To throw another high pick at a RB, when the glaring needs on this offense are WR2 and OL is not wise.  The line gets better, Cook also gets better.  It doesn't matter who you're putting in the backfield if the blocking isn't there.  Any RB that's back there is being setup to fail without decent blocking.

[1onemangang7]

3 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

Cook was a 2nd round pick, who showed good progression all year the more playing time he got.  To throw another high pick at a RB, when the glaring needs on this offense are WR2 and OL is not wise.  The line gets better, Cook also gets better.  It doesn't matter who you're putting in the backfield if the blocking isn't there.  Any RB that's back there is being setup to fail without decent blocking.

Put down that dr pepper. You lost your mind.

[Billz4ever]

3 minutes ago, 1onemangang7 said:

Well it's what they need for the presentation of Allen. They passed on Hall when he was mocked to them. Now they mock this guy to them. So no matter what you do you need to fill the position or watch your qb wear down again. Cook's proven incapable of that. Not saying it has to be by draft, but has to be addressed. Doubt there's any suckers but Bills fans that'd give anything for him by trade.

Cook's proven incapable of what?  The guy has shown steady progression all year once he finally started getting some playing time.

 

See what's going on with Diggs right now?  None of that changes unless we get someone who can legit take some attention away from him on the other side.  WR2 and the O-line is the highest priority unless you like seeing Diggs blanketed, Davis dropping balls, Josh running for his life, and a lack of openings for our backs.

2 minutes ago, 1onemangang7 said:

Put down that dr pepper. You lost your mind.

You never had one apparently.

[1onemangang7]

3 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

Cook's proven incapable of what?  The guy has shown steady progression all year once he finally started getting some playing time.

 

See what's going on with Diggs right now?  None of that changes unless we get someone who can legit take some attention away from him on the other side.  WR2 and the O-line is the highest priority unless you like seeing Diggs blanketed, Davis dropping balls, Josh running for his life, and a lack of openings for our backs.

You never had one apparently.

That wonderful progression to garbage in January, so bad people think a dome is the answer. The position requires zero seasoning. Hall produced from jump street on a lesser team. 

[Billz4ever]

7 minutes ago, 1onemangang7 said:

That wonderful progression to garbage in January, so bad people think a dome is the answer. The position requires zero seasoning. Hall produced from jump street on a lesser team. 

If you haven't noticed, we don't run the ball much, so trying to compare us to a different team is literally apples and oranges.  To waste high draft capital on that again this year, when the glaring needs are the line and a legit target opposite Diggs is insane.

 

It's incredible that there's people whose big takeaway from the drubbing we just took is that we need to draft a RB.

Edited January 24, 2023 by Billz4ever

[DCOrange]

3 hours ago, filthymcnasty08 said:

Would you rather have Breece Hall and a 2nd Rd. corner

 

OR

 

Elam/Cook?  

 

Cook - 1/3rd of snaps in our biggest game of the year

 

Elam - hardly played but showed promise

 

Breece Hall, before the injury, was OROY

 

We have been finessing RB for far too long.   

I’d rather have neither of these scenarios but alas this is what we ended up with.

[1onemangang7]

1 minute ago, Billz4ever said:

If you haven't noticed, we don't run the ball much, so trying to compare us to a different team is literally apples and oranges.  To waste high draft capital on that again this year, when the glaring needs are the line and a legit target opposite Diggs is insane.

 

It's incredible that there's people whose big takeaway from the drubbing we just took is that we need to draft a RB.

That's just it. We are gonna run a lot more with the right guy on the roster.

[Billz4ever]

Just now, 1onemangang7 said:

That's just it. We are gonna run a lot more with the right guy on the roster.

No we won't because that's not Dorsey's style.

 

Are you bros with Dorsey and he told you this in private?  Have you ever watched a Dorsey presser?  He's always asked about running the ball and he thinks they are running the correct amount.

[1onemangang7]

Just now, 1onemangang7 said:

That's just it. We are gonna run a lot more with the right guy on the roster.

Read.  I didn't day it had to be draft. He's already made himself look bad. I think it's gonna happen one way or another or there will be mgmt change. I'll be the same worn down qb and he will get blamed for his turnovers when it's all on him.

Just now, Billz4ever said:

No we won't because that's not Dorsey's style.

 

Are you bros with Dorsey and he told you this in private?  Have you ever watched a Dorsey presser?  He's always asked about running the ball and he thinks they are running the correct amount.

Yeah you sound sane.

[Billz4ever]

2 minutes ago, 1onemangang7 said:

Read.  I didn't day it had to be draft. He's already made himself look bad. I think it's gonna happen one way or another or there will be mgmt change. I'll be the same worn down qb and he will get blamed for his turnovers when it's all on him.

Yeah you sound sane.

You're sounding like you don't even watch this team.

[1onemangang7]

1 minute ago, Billz4ever said:

You're sounding like you don't even watch this team.

Every down. Never a presser. Does it matter? If he don't change it then someone will. It's obvious. The bigger problem is you supporting it. Let em know.

[Billz4ever]

Just now, 1onemangang7 said:

Every down. Never a presser. Does it matter? If he don't change it then someone will. It's obvious. The bigger problem is you supporting it. Let em know.

Good luck with your obsession with running backs and thinking that's the glaring issue with this offense.  

 

I have a feeling you're not going to be happy with this offseason.

[1onemangang7]

2 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

Good luck with your obsession with running backs and thinking that's the glaring issue with this offense.  

 

I have a feeling you're not going to be happy with this offseason.

Good luck with your obsession with Cook. You won't be happy watching your qb wear out til injury or shortened career. But you'll be happy I guess they tried the same approach and it continually failed, that is exactly insanity.

[Billz4ever]

21 minutes ago, 1onemangang7 said:

Good luck with your obsession with Cook. You won't be happy watching your qb wear out til injury or shortened career. But you'll be happy I guess they tried the same approach and it continually failed, that is exactly insanity.

 

I don't have an obsession with Cook and I'm also not so ignorant as to call him a bust like you did.

Edited January 24, 2023 by Billz4ever

[nedboy7]

Do we really think couple rookies will suddenly make this a SB OL?  Seems like we need some FA with rookies in the mix. 

[1onemangang7]

1 minute ago, Billz4ever said:

 

I don't have an obsession with Cook and I'm also not so ignorant as to call him a bust like you did.

Rb's like him are a dime a dozen.  You spent a 2 on him. Guess our definition of bust isn't the same.

[Billz4ever]

Just now, 1onemangang7 said:

Rb's like him are a dime a dozen.  You spent a 2 on him. Guess our definition of bust isn't the same.

OK, fella.  Enjoy. 

 

I'm done with the annual "we need a new RB" discussion that happens at the end of every season.

 

Be sure to let me know when that happens.

[Solomon Grundy]

6 minutes ago, 1onemangang7 said:

Rb's like him are a dime a dozen.  You spent a 2 on him. Guess our definition of bust isn't the same.

He can split time with Bijan. The way he did in Georgia with Swift, White, etc..

[1onemangang7]

1 minute ago, Billz4ever said:

OK, fella.  Enjoy. 

 

I'm done with the annual "we need a new RB" discussion that happens at the end of every season.

 

Be sure to let me know when that happens.

Annual. Not just because knowledgeable Bills fans see it. Cause knowledge football types everywhere see it and mock it accordingly.  Try watching the game more intelligently if it's gonna be your hobby.