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[C.Biscuit97]

On 1/20/2023 at 8:44 PM, BillsShredder83 said:

If you think Poyers a warrior, imagine how Rachel wakes up feelin. Bet he keeps her living on the injury report.

 

Bush (Back) - DNP | Probable

Wow haha. Also, have you been in many serious relationships because no matter how hot she is….

 

plus, she’s a lot. i can see him wanting to come back to Buffalo and her behind the scenes telling him not to take a penny less than a higher offer. 

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, C.Biscuit97 said:

Wow haha. Also, have you been in many serious relationships because no matter how hot she is….

 

plus, she’s a lot. i can see him wanting to come back to Buffalo and her behind the scenes telling him not to take a penny less than a higher offer. 

 

And the big problem with Rachel is that with anyone else, Jordan could tell her to just live down in Miami all year and he'll go back and forth, but if you leave her alone for more than 2 days she goes and screws Antonio Brown behind his back again!

[26TrapDraw]

On 1/20/2023 at 5:56 PM, BRH said:

Love me some Poyer.  
 

But I’m signing Edmunds and extending Oliver before I do anything else if I’m BBB. 

 

Letting Edmunds go at this age and stage of his development, so we can keep a 32-year-old safety, is not a Beane-type move.  

And if you guys remember the Chris Drury drama, one thing you need to keep in mind is that the wife will usually get her way.  He wanted to stay.  She did not.  He left.  
 

Control what you can control. 

So Far Beane hasn’t done one thing you’ve asked. This kind of insolence is not acceptable from our GM. I think you should have him executed.

[Peace Frog]

19 minutes ago, The Jerk said:

 

So high that he can touch the sky...

 

How sick?

So...he isn't coming back until the 4th of July?   

 

See what I did there?

[BillsPride12]

On 1/20/2023 at 8:56 PM, BRH said:

Love me some Poyer.  
 

But I’m signing Edmunds and extending Oliver before I do anything else if I’m BBB. 

 

Letting Edmunds go at this age and stage of his development, so we can keep a 32-year-old safety, is not a Beane-type move.  

And if you guys remember the Chris Drury drama, one thing you need to keep in mind is that the wife will usually get her way.  He wanted to stay.  She did not.  He left.  
 

Control what you can control. 

We are really going back some years with this one, but I honestly don't remember that being a thing?  Do you have any articles or anything to back that claim up?  I thought Drury wanted to go play for the Rangers because that was his lifelong dream since he was a kid and the Sabres wasted their time trying to get him to sign meanwhile it was Briere who wanted to stay here but they neglected him and he ultimately signed with Philly.  I really don't remember Drury's wife being involved in any of the drama? 

[JaBu]

18 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said:

It sounded like Miami had legit interest but I wonder if the trade they swung for Ramsey is going to change their interest level in Poyer now.  Don't think I have seen him linked to any other teams through the Rumor Mill.  

 

The Raiders are supposed to be very interested.

[SectionC3]

20 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Wow haha. Also, have you been in many serious relationships because no matter how hot she is….

 

plus, she’s a lot. i can see him wanting to come back to Buffalo and her behind the scenes telling him not to take a penny less than a higher offer. 

This.  All day long.  She has all the characteristics of bad news. 

3 minutes ago, JaBu said:

 

The Raiders are supposed to be very interested.

Maybe they are.  Maybe they have more room with Waller

gone.  But nothing has happened yet - 

8 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said:

We are really going back some years with this one, but I honestly don't remember that being a thing?  Do you have any articles or anything to back that claim up?  I thought Drury wanted to go play for the Rangers because that was his lifelong dream since he was a kid and the Sabres wasted their time trying to get him to sign meanwhile it was Briere who wanted to stay here but they neglected him and he ultimately signed with Philly.  I really don't remember Drury's wife being involved in any of the drama? 

They were both geography snobs from what I heard.  More her than him. 

[DrDawkinstein]

17 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said:

We are really going back some years with this one, but I honestly don't remember that being a thing?  Do you have any articles or anything to back that claim up?  I thought Drury wanted to go play for the Rangers because that was his lifelong dream since he was a kid and the Sabres wasted their time trying to get him to sign meanwhile it was Briere who wanted to stay here but they neglected him and he ultimately signed with Philly.  I really don't remember Drury's wife being involved in any of the drama? 

 

We had the Drury deal done and forgot to fax the league.

 

Found the link. We never faxed it to Drury's agent to sign. I knew it was something like that. LOL, so Buffalo. His wife had nothing to do with it. He was a Sabre, we couldve kept him, and he always wanted to play for the Rangers.

https://thehockeywriters.com/chris-drury-danny-briere-sabres/

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Although both parties agreed to a five-year extension for the co-captain, the Sabres neglected to send an executed contract to Drury’s agent. That’s right folks, after verbally agreeing to a deal that would lock down the most important player on the roster, the front office failed to get a signature.

 

What happened you ask? Nobody really knows for sure.

 

Perhaps the Sabres got cold feet and instead of informing the player, they simply ignored the situation hoping it would go away. Following this unfathomable saga, the Sabres reached back out to Drury to sign the deal after he registered 69 points (a career high) that season. At that point, the franchise center felt spurned by the organization and refused to negotiate a new contract.

 

Edited March 14, 2023 by DrDawkinstein

[BillsPride12]

5 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

We had the Drury deal done and forgot to fax the league.

 

Found the link. We never faxed it to Drury's agent to sign. I knew it was something like that. LOL, so Buffalo. His wife had nothing to do with it. He was a Sabre, we couldve kept him, and he always wanted to play for the Rangers.

https://thehockeywriters.com/chris-drury-danny-briere-sabres/

 

Thanks, that's more along the story I remember.  You guys ever notice Drury never comes back and does any alumni events or speaks in any of the Sabres documentaries or anything like that.  I wonder if he stills holds a grudge against the organization(see Matthew Barnaby) or if he just feels like he is above being associated with those teams(as he won a Cup in Colorado and had a lot of success in his career).  Either way it's a shame he has really distanced himself from the organization as he was really beloved by the fans back then.  

[jlgarsh]

16 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said:

Thanks, that's more along the story I remember.  You guys ever notice Drury never comes back and does any alumni events or speaks in any of the Sabres documentaries or anything like that.  I wonder if he stills holds a grudge against the organization(see Matthew Barnaby) or if he just feels like he is above being associated with those teams(as he won a Cup in Colorado and had a lot of success in his career).  Either way it's a shame he has really distanced himself from the organization as he was really beloved by the fans back then.  

I mean he's currently the GM of the Rangers, so it's not surprising he's not doing Sabres events right now?

[DrDawkinstein]

19 minutes ago, jlgarsh said:

I mean he's currently the GM of the Rangers, so it's not surprising he's not doing Sabres events right now?

 

That's what I was going to say as well. Tough spot to do team stuff with another team when you are GM.

 

I hope it's just that.

[L Ron Burgundy]

He has a verbal agreement with the Dolphins according to Twitter. . ...

[BRH]

3 hours ago, BillsPride12 said:

We are really going back some years with this one, but I honestly don't remember that being a thing?  Do you have any articles or anything to back that claim up?  I thought Drury wanted to go play for the Rangers because that was his lifelong dream since he was a kid and the Sabres wasted their time trying to get him to sign meanwhile it was Briere who wanted to stay here but they neglected him and he ultimately signed with Philly.  I really don't remember Drury's wife being involved in any of the drama? 

 

I don't have any articles to back that up, no.  It'll sound stupid, and I hate when people do this so forgive me, but my wife's family and his go way back and so I hear things.  His wife, who he met at BU, did want to be back on the East Coast nearer her family. They had a very young family at the time (this is his son).  And it's not untrue that he loved the Rangers growing up and always wanted to play for them.  But what's also not untrue is that he loved his time in Buffalo, particularly playing for Lindy.  I think if he was single at the time, he'd have stayed.

[Beck Water]

1 hour ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

He has a verbal agreement with the Dolphins according to Twitter. . ...

 

Source on Twitter?  'cuz I was just searching Rapaport and Schefter and etc and none of them have it.

With a "big cheese" like Rosenhaus as his agent you think they'd know

Edited March 14, 2023 by Beck Water

[BRH]

3 hours ago, BillsPride12 said:

Thanks, that's more along the story I remember.  You guys ever notice Drury never comes back and does any alumni events or speaks in any of the Sabres documentaries or anything like that.  I wonder if he stills holds a grudge against the organization(see Matthew Barnaby) or if he just feels like he is above being associated with those teams(as he won a Cup in Colorado and had a lot of success in his career).  Either way it's a shame he has really distanced himself from the organization as he was really beloved by the fans back then.  

 

I don't think it's anything along those lines. If anything, I'd think he feels badly about how it all went down. And he wasn't a geography snob at all. He has never had anything bad to say about Buffalo or the Sabres, ever.  Also, he's, you know, the GM of another NHL team right now.

 

Also, I don't think we're ever going to know for sure why the Sabres didn't send his agent the contract.  That seems weird.  I don't think the front office would forget to do something like that, and all I can speculate is that one side had buyer's remorse after the agreement was reached.

 

Edit:  now I remember: of the two (Briere and Drury), they wanted Drury so they negotiated a deal with him but then were hoping to sit on it until after the season because otherwise Briere would have been upset (along with half the fan base).  And I have to believe Drury also understood and accepted that, plus he had to know that not signing the contract right away would give him options if he played well (and he did).

 

Edited March 14, 2023 by BRH

[GottaRun]

15 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Source on Twitter?  'cuz I was just searching Rapaport and Schefter and etc and none of them have it.

With a "big cheese" like Rosenhaus as his agent you think they'd know

 

Apparently 

 

[Beck Water]

14 minutes ago, GottaRun said:

 

Apparently 

 

 

So this is kinda like the Dolphins version of Cover1 Network?

 

Eh, sometimes those guys know something

[JoPoy88]

14 minutes ago, GottaRun said:

 

Apparently 

 

Eh, doesn’t seem like a complete troll account, but certainly not anything I’d call credible. When you see someone with as many followings as followers, that’s a red flag on twitter. Mean’s they do a lot of “you follow me I’ll follow you” stuff.

3 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

So this is kinda like the Dolphins version of Cover1 Network?

 

Eh, sometimes those guys know something

they appear to be something like that yes.

 

Or they’re closer to Trainwreck sports, which in that case don’t believe a word of it.

[Beck Water]

6 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:

Eh, doesn’t seem like a complete troll account, but certainly not anything I’d call credible. When you see someone with as many followings as followers, that’s a red flag on twitter. Mean’s they do a lot of “you follow me I’ll follow you” stuff.

 

Good point - Cover1 follows 7.5k accounts, but has 29.1k followers

This guy follows 1.4k, has 1.9k followers. 

Edited March 15, 2023 by Beck Water

[Jon in Pasadena]

3 hours ago, jlgarsh said:

I mean he's currently the GM of the Rangers, so it's not surprising he's not doing Sabres events right now?

And Danny is currently the interim GM for the Flyers, auditioning for the non-interim gig.  Amazing.

 

[Virgil]

Dumb question.  Can Poyer be signed as a post June signing?   Does it matter if you resign with your own team?

[Locomark]

Notice there are already 3 safeties signed and not one of them is named Poyer? Notice Po is now being told he is only worth 11 which is what Buffalo told him and he is begging for 3-4 more in incentives. Now he is just begging for term and/or incentives because if he signs for the same thing the Bills paid him he just looks like a bad guy for leaving town for the same money he just made. No one will be paying him his 14-15 million. He is learning the lesson honey badger learned last year and Beane told him so last year. His wife just needed to learn the same lesson. She’s behind the drama.

[Beast]

7 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Dumb question.  Can Poyer be signed as a post June signing?   Does it matter if you resign with your own team?

He’s a UFA. He can sign with any team, to include the Bills, at anytime. Tomorrow, next week, June, week 9, it doesn’t matter.

Edited March 15, 2023 by Beast

[Beck Water]

2 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Dumb question.  Can Poyer be signed as a post June signing?   Does it matter if you resign with your own team?

 

Post-June 1 only applies to a player who is cut (I learnt yesterday it can't be applied to the accelerated dead cap resulting from a trade.

 

In any event, it most certainly doesn't apply to signing a player; the rule is, you got to have the cap available before the deal goes through.

 

 

[LEBills]

8 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Dumb question.  Can Poyer be signed as a post June signing?   Does it matter if you resign with your own team?

The “post-June” designation applies to cutting a player so you can spread the dead cap hit over two seasons for cap purposes. If you want to resign Poyer and want the cap flexibility this year you would just write the contract that way. 

[Beck Water]

3 minutes ago, Beast said:

He’s a UFA. He can sign with any team, to include the Bills, at anytime. Tomorrow, next week, June, week 9, it doesn’t matter.

 

Um, this is the "legal tampering period".  Technically, Poyer is still under contract to the Bills (last year's contract) until the new league year starts Weds.

So no, he's not a UFA - yet - and he can't sign with any team other than the Bills until the new league year starts later this week (he can agree in principle to a contract, but not sign one)

[Beast]

47 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Um, this is the "legal tampering period".  Technically, Poyer is still under contract to the Bills (last year's contract) until the new league year starts Weds.

So no, he's not a UFA - yet - and he can't sign with any team other than the Bills until the new league year starts later this week (he can agree in principle to a contract, but not sign one)

Boy, thank the good Lord you came along and cleared up my very confusing post.

[BillsPride12]

5 hours ago, jlgarsh said:

I mean he's currently the GM of the Rangers, so it's not surprising he's not doing Sabres events right now?

I know that and I knew somebody was going to bring that up but even before that gig I felt like he just completely distanced himself from that Sabres era, and Briere is currently doing GM work for Philly but he also records video snippets when there are the big events like RJ night or Ryan Miller night.  It's just weird to me you never hear anything from Drury as he was such a big part of those teams.  

[Virgil]

1 hour ago, LEBills said:

The “post-June” designation applies to cutting a player so you can spread the dead cap hit over two seasons for cap purposes. If you want to resign Poyer and want the cap flexibility this year you would just write the contract that way. 

I thought it also contributed to comp picks

[Virgil]

1 hour ago, Beast said:

He’s a UFA. He can sign with any team, to include the Bills, at anytime. Tomorrow, next week, June, week 9, it doesn’t matter.

For comps picks

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

12 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

Post-June 1 only applies to a player who is cut (I learnt yesterday it can't be applied to the accelerated dead cap resulting from a trade.

 

In any event, it most certainly doesn't apply to signing a player; the rule is, you got to have the cap available before the deal goes through.

 

 

 

Post-june will usually be used for players that have guarantees on base salary.  If you trade someone, they pay the salary 🙂

11 hours ago, Virgil said:

I thought it also contributed to comp picks

 

Comp picks only apply if a players contract ends.  If you cut them, they don't factor into the formula.  

[Virgil]

1 minute ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

Post-june will usually be used for players that have guarantees on base salary.  If you trade someone, they pay the salary 🙂

 

Comp picks only apply if a players contract ends.  If you cut them, they don't factor into the formula.  

 

His contract is over.  So, couldn't he be a comp pick then?

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

1 minute ago, Virgil said:

 

His contract is over.  So, couldn't he be a comp pick then?

 

Potentially, if we end up with fewer qualifying adds than subtractions.

 

So far i'd assume we are at 1 and 1 with edmunds and McGovern.  

 

Potential adds to the formula:

Poyer

Singletary

and the long shots of Phillips, Lawson, Crowder.