Warcodered Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: The big loss is in run support, particularly since NE will have to run effectively to stay in this one. And it’s awfully hard to see who fills that role. Siran Neal? He’s a mainstay on special teams, and I’d have more faith in him on run support than the other candidates. Jordan Poyer does have that twin of his. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Neal just looked the most devastated by Hamlin going down of all the Bills players. They must be very close. I hope the good news now helps him through it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, Logic said: For all of this talk of moving various corners to safety now that Hamlin is on IR... Even IF the coaching staff was going to do that, does anyone actually think that such a transition would go quickly/smoothly enough for the coaching staff to actually insert said converted corner into the starting lineup in the playoffs?! I think there's about a 0% chance of that happening. If Dean Marlowe, a previously productive, smart, veteran safety who already knows the position and the system, can't crack the starting lineup at safety, does anyone really think a player who's been doing it for a couple weeks could/would? If we want to have this discussion in the offseason, I'm all for it. But as for the rest of this season/playoffs, I'd be shocked to see anyone other than Cam Lewis, Jaquan Johnson, or Dean Marlowe manning Hamlin's vacated safety spot. And as much as Bills fans may dislike it, Lewis is very likely to get first crack at it. It is not going to happen. I think the biggest thing people forget is Tre is straight up not a good tackler. Have a guy who has never played safety and mix that in with him being a poor tackler? That is a disaster waiting to happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 30 minutes ago, DCofNC said: He’s a guy they had working at both positions in camp. I would absolutely be open to him auditioning at FS against NE. If it’s a horrific failure, we should be able to outscore them anyway. Same could be said for Tre making the move there for the remainder of the year, but I would think you take the experience of Tre at corner and shift the guy who’s now playing a back up role. While I’m sure Sean will side with that, do you really want either of those guys on the field at all? Dean Marlowe absolutely. He played well when substituting for Micah Hyde before. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeDrip Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Forgot what his injury was - some sort of break? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 (edited) 43 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said: Usually you're spot on, but this is way off base. 1. Bills staff is NOT going to move an all-pro corner to FS, just because he's still recovering from a torn acl. Perhaps this is considered in 12 months, if his burst/speed isn't back to normal. But right now, we need to be patient as he continues to get more comfortable and that knee will improve. 2. People act like moving a player, who has played corner their entire career, over to safety is an overnight thing. Micah transitioned, as did Poyer, now so is Cam..but it's not a move you'd do mid/late season...and these guys weren't all-pro at CB before their move either. 3. Cam/Dean/Quan: all 3 of these guys are going to be better options, than shifting Tre White to FS, at this point of the season. I still have faith that one of these 3 will step up for us. I don't remember seeing Cam or Quan, lined up with Poyer this year. Makes a HUGE difference with Jordan out there. Benford is another story, but if they had plans to move him (or Tre), we wouldn't have signed Mayden this week. All good, and I dont disagree with the challenges of an in season move like this. And as someone else pointed out, Tre is not a good tackler which is another valid reason of why this may not work out. To be honest, this is more about whether Tre should be starting at CB right now, or should we start 2 guys from Elam, Dane, and Benford. Tre has been the most exploitable weak spot on the defense since coming back. Cincy came right at him and he drew an embarrassing PI where he was badly torched on first play and then a couple plays later got worked on an easy route for a TD. Teams smell blood and we have a slew of dangerous WR's potentially to face in the playoffs. Edited January 6, 2023 by Alphadawg7 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazinBill Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 58 minutes ago, NickelCity said: We will need him. And early next week I hope we hear that Micah is coming back 🤞🤞🤞🤞 I would love Micah coming back just like the rest of us. A couple weeks back he said in an interview the the doctors said he would feel good enough to come back but this injury is like 6-9 healing time and they would be keeping him away to not further hurt himself. Apologize if it's already known- definitely not trying to be a Debbie Downer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 35 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Jordan Poyer does have that twin of his. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Definitely need him back. Especially with Elam barely playing. Rough rookie year for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, Einstein said: Definitely need him back. Especially with Elam barely playing. Rough rookie year for him. The whole season with all the craziness with the DBs I just have to give a pass to all the young guys thrust into tough situations. The defensive backfield room has had so much drama and continuous substitutions I give everyone credit for just getting this far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 16 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: All good, and I dont disagree with the challenges of an in season move like this. And as someone else pointed out, Tre is not a good tackler which is another valid reason of why this may not work out. To be honest, this is more about whether Tre should be starting at CB right now, or should we start 2 guys from Elam, Dane, and Benford. Tre has been the most exploitable weak spot on the defense since coming back. Cincy came right at him and he drew an embarrassing PI where he was badly torched on first play and then a couple plays later got worked on an easy route for a TD. Teams smell blood and we have a slew of dangerous WR's potentially to face in the playoffs. All good brother, good post! Yeah Tre seems to be grabbing alot, because he doesn't seem to be moving his feet enough. Hopefully his elite quickness comes back soon, but realistically it's more likely for next year. That's part of my rationale of getting Cam on the field, at FS. He brings some athleticism, and think we need more speed in the secondary too. Getting Elam out there more would help.too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 This is great news. Give him some snaps at safety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 21 minutes ago, BlazinBill said: I would love Micah coming back just like the rest of us. A couple weeks back he said in an interview the the doctors said he would feel good enough to come back but this injury is like 6-9 healing time and they would be keeping him away to not further hurt himself. Apologize if it's already known- definitely not trying to be a Debbie Downer Ah, I thought I read something that sounded similar that said he was hoping for good news "in a couple more weeks" (right about now) and thus, I'll be fingers crossed for an announcement next week. Perhaps I misread and you are right, but I hope not lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazinBill Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 minute ago, NickelCity said: Ah, I thought I read something that sounded similar that said he was hoping for good news "in a couple more weeks" (right about now) and thus, I'll be fingers crossed for an announcement next week. Perhaps I misread and you are right, but I hope not lol. I would absolutely prefer to be wrong here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: Jordan Poyer does have that twin of his. I’m surprised he fit into the jersey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: Jordan Poyer does have that twin of his. Wow all kidding aside but big man has quick feet and can move!!! He is great! So happy we resigned him! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Cheney Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Ok so if we don't get the number 1 seed, Hamlin can come off of IR for the Super Bowl, correct? Let's gooooooooo!!!!!!!! (I'm obviously joking) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 47 minutes ago, Einstein said: Definitely need him back. Especially with Elam barely playing. Rough rookie year for him. Rough how? I don’t think his lack of playing time is warranted based on games. It’ll have to be something in practice or something else. Elam has had a fine rookie season on the field. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 (edited) Johnson and Cam Lewis will be better next to an all pro player like Poyer. I think it’ll be Lewis. He seemed to jump over Johnson on the depth chart. Marlow seems to be behind both still. Maybe he hasn’t been active for special teams purposes. Edited January 7, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 1 hour ago, CoffeeDrip said: Forgot what his injury was - some sort of break? He broke his hand in the first Miami game, but he was playing through that with a club. What put him on IR was an oblique injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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