BillsFanSD Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: Again, if this happens, why wouldn’t the Bills turn around and say “then we forfeit against NE”. Who cares if you get the 2 or 3 seed, take the extra week or rest. So what if they do? Every team in the league theoretically has that option right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 minute ago, boyst said: If we go off win % vs winning games which would have to change the structure of the playoffs, specifically for ties. But you're right if done by % Also what's interesting is they blacked out the MNF game last night. Ominous. Even if it's not done by win %, if last night remains unplayed, and we win next week and KC loses we have the same number of wins, and we have the tiebreaker over them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: This is what I meant to post. Forfeit with both teams getting the victory. Just edited my original post. That isn't a forfeit. The NFL won't give out wins not earned. They either say the Bills forfeit, or declare a "no contest" as if the game was never played. A Bills forfeit is the cleanest result for the league. Not so great for us. Edited January 3, 2023 by PromoTheRobot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 minute ago, pi2000 said: Cancel the game and give them both a tie. Can't. Screws the Bills and Bengals at the same time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said: That isn't a forfeit. The NFL won't give out wins not earned. They either say the Bills forfeit, or declare a "no contest" as if the game was never played. A Bills forfeit is the cleanest result for the league. Not so great for us. But they will give out losses not earned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Just now, PromoTheRobot said: That isn't a forfeit. The NFL won't give out wins not earned. They either say the Bills forfeit, or declare a "no contest" as of the game was never played. A Bills forfeit is the cleanest result for the league. Not so great for us. Why isn’t it a Bengals forfeit to? Both teams agreed “we can’t play this game.” The season is getting put on pause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Process said: Uh, who the hell cares? I mean probably the owners? This is a business and the owners will have to decide amongst themselves along with the NFLPA how to handle it. I doubt screwing 2 owners will be palatable. Not to mention the Pegulas would have to come up with some sort of refund for the whole game. Edited January 3, 2023 by DapperCam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Just now, PetermansRedemption said: But they will give out losses not earned? The Bills were losing when the game was called. Sucks but there are no good solutions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) Again, I don't see the league putting a forfeit on the Bills for this. It seems very crass and wouldn't be good PR. They shouldnt get a loss because it was their player who happened to go into cardiac arrest and everyone involved in the game was too emotionally drained to even think about continuing the game. The Bengals would look bad too because if a forfeit was given, they would essentially need to say/admit that they wanted to finish the game but the Bills refused to. My bet would be on this not being played nor counted in the standings. It isn't so clean, but it is the easiest path. Edited January 3, 2023 by May Day 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Just now, PromoTheRobot said: That isn't a forfeit. The NFL won't give out wins not earned. They either say the Bills forfeit, or declare a "no contest" as of the game was never played. A Bills forfeit is the cleanest result for the league. Not so great for us. I just can’t see a forfeit…I think the nfl will choose a potential makeup date and leave it up to the teams whether they want to play. given how the bengals have handled things so far I doubt they’d push for the game to be played which is what it would take for the game to be treated as a bills forfeit imo. And if the nfl decides not to have a game it’s not going to be treated as a forfeit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 minute ago, DapperCam said: I mean probably the owners? This is a business and the owners will have to decide amongst themselves along with the NFLPA how to handle it. I doubt screwing 2 owners will be palatable. Not to mention the Pegulas would have to come up with some sort of refund for the whole game. I wonder if the league and owners carry insurance to cover such losses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: If another team’s fanbase takes issue with both of the teams that experienced what Cincinnati and Buffalo experienced on Monday , getting a win, then screw that teams fan base completely. Agree 100%.. but you and I both know, in a few days, if this is the outcome and the Chiefs miss their #1 seed, there will be outrage… and all of a sudden the focus won’t be on Hamlin anymore, but the #1 seed. It’s the ugly reality. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponch Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 What would be amazing to see… the Bengals forfeit this game to the Bills … in turn, the Chiefs forfeit their game to the Raiders, the Ravens forfeit their game to the Bengals and the Bills, in turn, forfeit their game to the Patriots this Sunday, all at great expense to some teams, but an unbelievable act of sportsmanship and human decency, all to help level the playing field and get the NFL out of a serious bind. It basically locks in the teams that were in the playoffs before the injury occurred and in the seeding that they were in. …. At least I think I did it right 🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Also; and this may actually be the best option: Play all the games this weekend. Push the Bills/Bengals to week 19 (push the playoffs back one week) as a stand alone game. The Bills/Bengals game will be two weeks removed from Hamlin who will have hopefully recovered by then. Bills/Bengals is a game that by itself has huge implications on standings 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Ponch said: What would be amazing to see… the Bengals forfeit this game to the Bills … in turn, the Chiefs forfeit their game to the Raiders, the Ravens forfeit their game to the Bengals and the Bills, in turn, forfeit their game to the Patriots this Sunday, all at great expense to some teams, but an unbelievable act of sportsmanship and human decency, all to help level the playing field and get the NFL out of a serious bind. It basically locks in the teams that were in the playoffs before the injury occurred and in the seeding that they were in. …. At least I think I did it right 🤔 No way the NFL allows that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, dma0034 said: A. Not Miami B. How about Vegas? Gamblers? Fantasy Football Championships? This is millions, perhaps a billion, between those things. This game is going to get scheduled to play. So cancel the games this week. Resume the Bills-Bengals the following Sunday as the only game, on a neutral field, in Cleveland, since the Bills won't want to play on the same turf where the incident occurred. This will also make up for the Bill giving up a home game to play in Detroit earleir this year. They game starts at 0-0 from the start of the first quarter, to give everyone a fresh start, free of the memories from last night. Half the tickets go to each team. The Week 18 games are the followlng week. All the playoff weeks are pushed back one week. The NFL has done it before, after 9-11. Makes most people happy. Edited January 3, 2023 by chongli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, boyst said: I'm saying if the game isn't played. Which I don't expect it to be. If thats the case and a win is impossible then I'd imagine the Bills would rather take the forfeit than no game played as it gives them the highest probability to still get the 1st seed. Edited January 3, 2023 by What a Tuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) If the game is played: Wednesday with both teams having week 18 games on Monday I don't expect it to be played Edited January 3, 2023 by Warriorspikes51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die hard bills fan Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 I think they will makeup the game as others have mentioned at the end of the season -just bills and bengals- and shorten from 2 weeks to 1 week time before super bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 8 minutes ago, BillsFanSD said: I don't think the Bills organization will object to this decision. Everything I've seen from the Pegulas, Beane, and McDermott tells me that they are mature adults who will bite the bullet on this because it's in the best interests of the league collectively. Obviously I'd also be fine with giving both teams wins or going on winning percentages too. I'm just pushing back on the argument that this game "has" to be made up. It doesn't, and that's not even a good option. I think along your lines. The Bills may come out with a statement that they will forfeit. Say the league offered them a chance to replay and they declined. It just helps the league out of a tricky situation with the Bills taking the hit. The Bills were behind and it was a Bills player that went down. Plus there were rumors that McD wasn't bringing the team back out no matter what the league said. While the Superbowl odds may decrease, the overall Bills brand will shine. And there will be an undercurrent of support Nationwide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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