Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 54 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Don't underestimate. These folks ain't fragile. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 5 hours ago, redtail hawk said: This is really interesting. Ever been to Jamaica? Had Jerk Chicken or Pork (chix is better but they're both awesome). Ya know why they spice the hell out of their foods? umm, cuz their ingredients suck. Indian Curry anyone? Yeah, English food is the pinnacle of cuisine... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Doc said: Yeah, English food is the pinnacle of cuisine... Jamie Oliver is pretty good. That other ex footballer from restaurant wrecks or whatever. Ramsey something? he's a dick but I'd eat his food. Don't like the Brits? I agree sandwiches are sometimes dry there but the country side is moist and verdant. Lush. And there really was an Earl of Sandwich. btw, I think parts of London have more Indian restaurants than India. My only complaint is they cheat on portions for profit. Maybe you need to try better places. I guess if they colonized u it might be different. And what's wrong with the BBC? Jules at night is brilliant. Hugh Grant's movies are kinda cool if you're in the mood. Oh, and Monty Python, elitist oxbridge bastards that they are , are really funny. Perhaps you'd enjoy Benny Hill. Edited March 20, 2023 by redtail hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 10 hours ago, aristocrat said: I said it before, I'll say it again. The arguments used by these folks is consistent with the 1950's era white segregationists arguing their views on the principals and virtues of separate but equal. So take a good look at the 2020's faces of racism. Not some backwoods southern hicks but instead the educated intellectual class. Lots of PhD types spending 10 years is college learning how to be stupid. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, redtail hawk said: Don't underestimate. These folks ain't fragile. that comment of hers was something.. They all share something. they make bank hustling their stick. and Like usual. None of them have any experience outside Academia and Elite non diverse circles. Its just a grift. profitable one at that. How far we have come from MLK and the character of the individual to infinity spaces for segregation. Edited March 20, 2023 by Chris farley 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, redtail hawk said: Jamie Oliver is pretty good. That other ex footballer from restaurant wrecks or whatever. Ramsey something? he's a dick but I'd eat his food. Don't like the Brits? I agree sandwiches are sometimes dry there but the country side is moist and verdant. Lush. And there really was an Earl of Sandwich. btw, I think parts of London have more Indian restaurants than India. My only complaint is they cheat on portions for profit. Maybe you need to try better places. I guess if they colonized u it might be different. And what's wrong with the BBC? Jules at night is brilliant. Hugh Grant's movies are kinda cool if you're in the mood. Oh, and Monty Python, elitist oxbridge bastards that they are , are really funny. Perhaps you'd enjoy Benny Hill. Been to a Gordon Ramsey restaurant in LV. It was good. Guess what? He used spices! But English food is as bland and boring as it gets. Kind of like the English, and dry humor doesn't translate to food. Although I guess there's a joke in there somewhere with all the animal's blood they need to use as food. Talk about sucky ingredients... Edited March 20, 2023 by Doc 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precision Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, Doc said: Been to a Gordon Ramsey restaurant in LV. It was good. Guess what? He used spices! But English food as as bland and boring as it gets. Kind of like the English, and dry humor doesn't translate to food. Although I guess there's a joke in there somewhere with all the animal's blood they need to use as food. Talk about sucky ingredients... Which one? The wife and I were in LV back in October and we couldn't get reservations to the one on the strip. Ended up eating at a "Ramsey Pub" or something like that in Caesars. We did one of the bus tours and they said his shows are recorded in the warehouses/tents on the far side of the high roller/ferris wheel. Amazed by all the pot smoke on the strip when we were there! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, Precision said: Which one? The wife and I were in LV back in October and we couldn't get reservations to the one on the strip. Ended up eating at a "Ramsey Pub" or something like that in Caesars. We did one of the bus tours and they said his shows are recorded in the warehouses/tents on the far side of the high roller/ferris wheel. Amazed by all the pot smoke on the strip when we were there! GR Burger. It was in Planet Hollywood. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Doc said: Been to a Gordon Ramsey restaurant in LV. It was good. Guess what? He used spices! But English food as as bland and boring as it gets. Kind of like the English, and dry humor doesn't translate to food. Although I guess there's a joke in there somewhere with all the animal's blood they need to use as food. Talk about sucky ingredients... When the sun never set on the british empire, they picked up some great culinary techniques (oh, and artifacts- the British Museum is my fav museum ever). "Ethnic" food is very common there so defining their food is difficult. That aside, if you look at very heavily spiced foods you need to look no further than poor, "shite hole " countries because, well, they're poor and can't afford the good stuff. Look at Mexico, Africa, Thailand, Vietnam, India, the Caribbean etc. Conversely, rich countries traditionally use less spice in their native cuisine. Why would you put tobasco sauce on filet, lobster or duck?. Edited March 20, 2023 by redtail hawk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, Precision said: Which one? The wife and I were in LV back in October and we couldn't get reservations to the one on the strip. Ended up eating at a "Ramsey Pub" or something like that in Caesars. We did one of the bus tours and they said his shows are recorded in the warehouses/tents on the far side of the high roller/ferris wheel. Amazed by all the pot smoke on the strip when we were there! I had a friend go out last year to celebrate covid being over (LOL) He hates flying. he landed and his wife bought him a gummy from one of those shops so he would settle down. HE says the only thing he remembers from that day, was being helped to bed. She still complains that he just slept the entire first day cause that gummy, and mirrored your comment about the strip just smelling like pot non stop now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 13 hours ago, Orlando Tim said: Do you believe cooking shows are real life? Please tell me one society that had spices that did not use them? The Indians use curry because it is available spices. French cuisine started to move away from aromatics/dried ingredients in the 1600s as fresh, whole ingredients (whole garlic, onion, etc.) became more of a status symbol. The trouble with "wypipo dun seezun dey chickuns" is that the only things they recognize as "seasoning" are plastic jars in the spice aisle with "Lawry's" or "McCormick" printed on the label. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Just now, redtail hawk said: When the sun never set on the british empire, they picked up some great culinary techniques (oh, and artifacts- the British Museum is my fav museum ever). "Ethnic" food is very common there so defining their food is difficult. That aside, if you look at very heavily spiced foods you need to look no further than poor, "shite hole " countries because, well, they're poor and can't afford the good stuff. Look at Mexico, Africa, Thailand, Vietnam, India, the Caribbean etc. Conversely, rich countries traditionally use less spice in their native cuisine. Why would you put tobacco sauce on filet, lobster or duck?. like beginnings of modern Smoking of meat. was all about how to cook the crap cuts. The elmira prison in the Civil war saw people buying River rats from the prisoners for food. Gotta imagine it takes a lot of seasoning to make a river rat taste like food. Shoot, people still love the "Chicken fried steak covered in white gravy." When in reality that was a poverty food as you could pound roadkill, bread it, fry it, season it. then cover it with gravy that's just more pepper, flour and the crap from the bottom of the pan. Imagine they season the eff out of haggis. imagine chitlins without gravy or seasoning. UGH. OK, they are UGH anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Chris farley said: I had a friend go out last year to celebrate covid being over (LOL) He hates flying. he landed and his wife bought him a gummy from one of those shops so he would settle down. HE says the only thing he remembers from that day, was being helped to bed. She still complains that he just slept the entire first day cause that gummy, and mirrored your comment about the strip just smelling like pot non stop now. I've been to a couple conferences in LV. Always felt like I constantly needed a shower. Going down the elevators early in the morning, I'd invariably see hookers. Walking to the meeting rooms, would always see haggard, depressed folks mesmerized by one armed bandits. I just don't get it. but to each his own. Edited March 20, 2023 by redtail hawk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Just now, redtail hawk said: I've been to a couple conferences in LV. Always felt like I constantly needed a shower. Going down the elevators early in the morning, I'd invariably see hookers in the elevator. Walking to the meeting rooms, would always see haggard, depressed folks mesmerized by one armed bandits. I just don't get it. but to each his own. I have never been and its not really on my bucket list. If I want to gamble, there are casinos everywhere now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precision Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Chris farley said: I had a friend go out last year to celebrate covid being over (LOL) He hates flying. he landed and his wife bought him a gummy from one of those shops so he would settle down. HE says the only thing he remembers from that day, was being helped to bed. She still complains that he just slept the entire first day cause that gummy, and mirrored your comment about the strip just smelling like pot non stop now. Ha ha ha, hopefully your friend has given up the gummies! When we were there, they had yet to open all the dispensaries to the north of the strip. Construction on most of them was completed, they had lit working signs, but they were not open yet. I can't imagine how bad it's going to be once all the new dispensaries are open. We were waiting for an Uber outside our hotel and there was a couple smoking next to us with people all around. By far the worst part of the trip and I'll have a hard time convincing my wife to visit again. 6 minutes ago, Chris farley said: I have never been and its not really on my bucket list. If I want to gamble, there are casinos everywhere now. The shows were cool. We did a helicopter tour of the Grand Canyon and seeing that was on my bucket list. Saw the Hoover dam which was very cool as well. Did almost no gambling. Not sure if or when we'll return but honestly it was more fun than I expected. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, Precision said: Ha ha ha, hopefully your friend has given up the gummies! When we were there, they had yet to open all the dispensaries to the north of the strip. Construction on most of them was completed, they had lit working signs, but they were not open yet. I can't imagine how bad it's going to be once all the new dispensaries are open. We were waiting for an Uber outside our hotel and there was a couple smoking next to us with people all around. By far the worst part of the trip and I'll have a hard time convincing my wife to visit again. According to him, never flying or partaking again. according to his wife. he will be flying, but not partaking again:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 44 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: When the sun never set on the british empire, they picked up some great culinary techniques (oh, and artifacts- the British Museum is my fav museum ever). "Ethnic" food is very common there so defining their food is difficult. That aside, if you look at very heavily spiced foods you need to look no further than poor, "shite hole " countries because, well, they're poor and can't afford the good stuff. Look at Mexico, Africa, Thailand, Vietnam, India, the Caribbean etc. Conversely, rich countries traditionally use less spice in their native cuisine. Why would you put tobasco sauce on filet, lobster or duck?. Pat Mahomes puts ketchup on his steak. Lobster is dipped in butter (not technically a spice per se but most don't eat lobster on its own). As for duck, who cares? Can't stand it. 48 minutes ago, Chris farley said: I had a friend go out last year to celebrate covid being over (LOL) He hates flying. he landed and his wife bought him a gummy from one of those shops so he would settle down. HE says the only thing he remembers from that day, was being helped to bed. She still complains that he just slept the entire first day cause that gummy, and mirrored your comment about the strip just smelling like pot non stop now. Yup, almost everywhere you went it smelled like pot. It was still a cool experience and I'd like to go back again soon. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 16 hours ago, aristocrat said: What a racist idiot. Spain? Italy? China? Greece? All were dominant rich countries at various times and traditionally cooking with seasoning and spices. now we can do poor and bland… west Germany? Most poor Slavic countries, guess it’s true… racism and ignorance go hand in hand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 I practiced white supremacy today and I bet most of you did too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninSarasota Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 (edited) 50 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: I practiced white supremacy today and I bet most of you did too I saw that one yesterday and was wondering - since I don't use cream & sugar in my coffee, does it make me less racist? Edited March 20, 2023 by BuffaninSarasota edit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, BuffaninSarasota said: I saw that one yesterday and was wondering - since I don't use cream & sugar with my coffee, does it make me less racist? Somewhat, but you are still using the coffee beans which were cultivated using slave labor at one point or something. I don't know I didn't read the article. My great grandparents were super poor farm workers in Sicily so I'm still learning about how racist I am as the grandchild of immigrants 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 12 hours ago, redtail hawk said: Jamie Oliver is pretty good. That other ex footballer from restaurant wrecks or whatever. Ramsey something? he's a dick but I'd eat his food. Don't like the Brits? I agree sandwiches are sometimes dry there but the country side is moist and verdant. Lush. And there really was an Earl of Sandwich. btw, I think parts of London have more Indian restaurants than India. My only complaint is they cheat on portions for profit. Maybe you need to try better places. I guess if they colonized u it might be different. And what's wrong with the BBC? Jules at night is brilliant. Hugh Grant's movies are kinda cool if you're in the mood. Oh, and Monty Python, elitist oxbridge bastards that they are , are really funny. Perhaps you'd enjoy Benny Hill. He's generally right about British food being pretty bland. I think both Ramsey and Oliver trained extensively in France, fwiw. London has decent food, but for a city of its stature it comes up pretty short in comparison with NY, Paris, Rome, etc. Hugh Grant is ok, but who doesn't like (some) Monty Python? and what kid didn't like watching Benny Hill chase scantily clad women around set to madcap music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Tenhigh said: He's generally right about British food being pretty bland. I think both Ramsey and Oliver trained extensively in France, fwiw. London has decent food, but for a city of its stature it comes up pretty short in comparison with NY, Paris, Rome, etc. Hugh Grant is ok, but who doesn't like (some) Monty Python? and what kid didn't like watching Benny Hill chase scantily clad women around set to madcap music? I've had some very tasty meals in England. Who doesn't like a classic English breakfast, bangers and mash, shepherds pie, roast beef and yorkshire pudding? and this are fairly standard meals. the gormet stuff can be amazing. next visit, this is on my list https://boroughmarket.org.uk Also, would like to do lunch here. reviews are great and the staircase is amazing https://www.dezeen.com/2018/04/27/atmos-studios-timber-staircase-london-restaurant/# Edited March 20, 2023 by redtail hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: I've had some very tasty meals in England. Who doesn't like a classic English breakfast, bangers and mash, shepherds pie, roast beef and yorkshire pudding? and this are fairly standard meals. thegormet stuff can be amazing. next visit, this is on my list https://boroughmarket.org.uk Good luck with the price tag. like whole foods meets bea steak guy kinda pricy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: I've had some very tasty meals in England. Who doesn't like a classic English breakfast, bangers and mash, shepherds pie, roast beef and yorkshire pudding? and this are fairly standard meals. the gormet stuff can be amazing. next visit, this is on my list https://boroughmarket.org.uk Also, would like to do lunch here. reviews are great and the staircase is amazing https://www.dezeen.com/2018/04/27/atmos-studios-timber-staircase-london-restaurant/# Sure, you can get good food there, but the Brits are generally not considered top tier for cuisine. What's next, arguing the merits of their dental hygiene? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Chris farley said: Good luck with the price tag. like whole foods meets bea steak guy kinda pricy. gotta be cheaper to buy top notch ingredients and use at home than buying similar ingredients prepared in a restaurant. And this seems in range for a high end big city restaurant at 60 pounds: https://hide.co.uk/img/gallery/pdf/3271edc57f76e7777c9c8b18d06a9970.pdf Edited March 20, 2023 by redtail hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: gotta be cheaper to buy top notch ingredients and use at home than buying similar ingredients prepared in a restaurant. And this seems in range for a high end big city restaurant at 60 pounds: https://hide.co.uk/img/gallery/pdf/3271edc57f76e7777c9c8b18d06a9970.pdf still looks like a fancy whole food. just marketed as it being sourced from actual trader's vs some corporate supply chain. Like the Idea of a global farmers market. And the same could almost always be said that preparing food at home is cheaper than paying someone else to make it for you. l Edited March 20, 2023 by Chris farley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Tenhigh said: He's generally right about British food being pretty bland. I think both Ramsey and Oliver trained extensively in France, fwiw. London has decent food, but for a city of its stature it comes up pretty short in comparison with NY, Paris, Rome, etc. Hugh Grant is ok, but who doesn't like (some) Monty Python? and what kid didn't like watching Benny Hill chase scantily clad women around set to madcap music? We always stop at Nandos for chicken when we’re there. I think it’s considered South African with the perri perri sauce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 6 hours ago, Tenhigh said: Sure, you can get good food there, but the Brits are generally not considered top tier for cuisine. What's next, arguing the merits of their dental hygiene? When was the last time you or anyone said "let's go out for English food"? The closest I've gotten was going to eating it was at EPCOT, eating at the "Rose and Crown" in the England pavilion. But I rarely want to eat there because it's SOOOOOO boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 12 minutes ago, Doc said: When was the last time you or anyone said "let's go out for English food"? The closest I've gotten was going to eating it was at EPCOT, eating at the "Rose and Crown" in the England pavilion. But I rarely want to eat there because it's SOOOOOO boring. You need to get out more. I suspect the cafe in the British Museum, Tate Modern or even Pret au Manger is better than most in Epcot. Definitely better coffee. Disney's food sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 12 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: You need to get out more. I suspect the cafe in the British Museum, Tate Modern or even Pret au Manger is better than most in Epcot. Definitely better coffee. Disney's food sucks. Disney food at the countries in EPCOT does not suck, along with all the fine dining options Disney has overall. I assume you stick with the cafeteria style, which is fine if your goal is a quick meal, but making that kind of statement is ignorant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 18 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: You need to get out more. I suspect the cafe in the British Museum, Tate Modern or even Pret au Manger is better than most in Epcot. Definitely better coffee. Disney's food sucks. I get out plenty. Just saying that the only time I ever ate English food was at EPCOT. Again, no one goes out for English food. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said: Disney food at the countries in EPCOT does not suck, along with all the fine dining options Disney has overall. I assume you stick with the cafeteria style, which is fine if your goal is a quick meal, but making that kind of statement is ignorant. Perhaps, you misunderstand cafe. They can be very upscale. $37.50 + $25 for 3 courses with matched wine and then a Cezanne exhibit appeals to me more than anything at Epcot. But different strokes... https://www.tate.org.uk/visit/tate-modern/kitchen-and-bar Edited March 21, 2023 by redtail hawk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 This is the white supremacy thread. Can we please go back to redhawk calling accomplished African American gentlemen Uncle Tom? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: This is the white supremacy thread. Can we please go back to redhawk calling accomplished African American gentlemen Uncle Tom? Clarence Thomas is an uncle Thom. Even His surname speaks to it. Edited March 21, 2023 by redtail hawk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 hour ago, redtail hawk said: Clarence Thomas is an uncle Thom. Even His surname speaks to it. You are a truly disgusting individual. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: You are a truly disgusting individual. thanks. My mirror is broken. Yours? I watch the far far right and have been taking notes... Edited March 21, 2023 by redtail hawk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 8 hours ago, redtail hawk said: Perhaps, you misunderstand cafe. They can be very upscale. $37.50 + $25 for 3 courses with matched wine and then a Cezanne exhibit appeals to me more than anything at Epcot. But different strokes... https://www.tate.org.uk/visit/tate-modern/kitchen-and-bar Please read what I wrote and explain how this response makes sense? You made the declarative statement that would be considered wrong by 99% of the population, why not defend it? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 40 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said: Please read what I wrote and explain how this response makes sense? You made the declarative statement that would be considered wrong by 99% of the population, why not defend it? what population? those that don't go to art museums with cafes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 7 hours ago, redtail hawk said: thanks. My mirror is broken. Yours? I watch the far far right and have been taking notes... You should get a new mirror. In its reflection you can revel in the glory of an upper middle-aged white man who has accomplished so much in life that he is comfortable labeling people of color as Uncle Tom’s. Keep in mind that beauty is only skin deep however. Racist ugliness goes clear to the bone. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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