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NFL Network Analyst Willie McGinest arrested for Assault with a Deadly Weapon in LA


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On 12/19/2022 at 6:26 PM, WideNine said:

This on top of that epic embarrassment of a game against the Raiders... Pat fans will be jumping off bridges.


Can't get enough of Chandler Jones just shoving Mac to the turf by his face as he runs over him for the game-clinching TD.

 

 

 

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Josh Allen makes that tackle.   Jim Kelly drops him.

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21 hours ago, Southern_Bills said:

 

When did we stop carrying guns? I missed the memo.

 

Well, in most areas of California, concealed carry permits are very hard to get, unless you are law enforcement or donate heavily to the county sherrif.

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55 minutes ago, chongli said:

 

Well, in most areas of California, concealed carry permits are very hard to get, unless you are law enforcement or donate heavily to the county sherrif.

 

Yeah, I'm in south Alabama, we can still get a CCWP without much issue. Actually they plan on doing away with the permit altogether, meaning any lawful gun owner can conceal carry, which I don't particularly agree with.

 

 

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On 12/22/2022 at 8:17 PM, EasternOHBillsFan said:

 

So if a person is suddenly attacked on the street, we shouldn't help because we need to know all the facts to make a snap judgment and intervene?

 

What a world you live in.

Strawman. What are you even talking about? Like ridiculous lol. Breaking up a fight is not the same as campaigning for someone to lose their job and be thrown in jail lol.

 

When you have nothing to say just make up an entirely new argument. 

 

It's astonishing that asking for facts is so controversial. 

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3 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said:

Strawman. What are you even talking about? Like ridiculous lol. Breaking up a fight is not the same as campaigning for someone to lose their job and be thrown in jail lol.

 

When you have nothing to say just make up an entirely new argument. 

 

It's astonishing that asking for facts is so controversial. 

 

I'm still waiting for a response from the question I asked you upthread regarding this and have only gotten crickets.

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On 12/22/2022 at 4:52 PM, Freak-O said:

Well, did you have all the facts when the Ray Rice video came out? Or did you jump to conclusions? Or was it different because he hit a woman? But on the other hand, then it was one on one and this time there was a mob against a single guy. Either way, defending a group beating is just stupid. That kind of thing belongs in the Middle Ages or, sadly, the Middle East. 

Yes beating your WIFE unconscious then dragging her body is entirely different. 

 

That shouldn't be up for discussion. 

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On 12/22/2022 at 2:46 PM, Big Turk said:

 

The absurdity of what he is suggesting is crazy...

 

I'm still trying to know what "facts" would matter in a case of 6 guys jumping someone minding his own business and the person in question repeatedly hitting him in the face with a heavy glass bottle?

 

I'm interested in knowing what you think would justify this behavior that was seen on camera where there clearly is no imminent threat from this person to the safety of the party involved with the beatdown.

 

Does California have some clause in the assault laws that state "if you find a man you know has been sleeping with your girl, you may smash him in the face with a glass bottle not more than 8 times and with a bottle not heavier than 1 pound 8 ounces when empty."?

The entirety of the preceeding events.  What led to this? For all you know prior to this this guy shot someone,  raped someone, jumped someone from behind,  he could have just robbed them with a knife or gun for all you know. Maybe he beat a women unconscious in the next room like Ray Rice. Maybe he walked up and exposed himself. Maybe he put his hand in his pants got the smell of his crotch on his fingers then shoved it in Willies face like Don Lemon did to a guy in a bar. Maybe he sexually assaulted a child. There's a million things that could have happened, we have no idea. 

 

Or it could have been stupid drama that made this entirely unacceptable.

 

Maybe the guy did nothing and Wiilies group hunted an innocent man down. 

 

We'll know when the facts come out. 

 

Like a normal, reasonable adult, I'll reserve judgement until then. I won't be campaign for him to be fired from his job and thrown in prison until i know what actually happened. 

 

Or you can act off emotions and bias and demand he be fired, never work on tv again, and thrown in prison for 3-5.

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1 hour ago, ArtVandalay said:

The entirety of the preceeding events.  What led to this? For all you know prior to this this guy shot someone,  raped someone, jumped someone from behind,  he could have just robbed them with a knife or gun for all you know. Maybe he beat a women unconscious in the next room like Ray Rice. Maybe he walked up and exposed himself. Maybe he put his hand in his pants got the smell of his crotch on his fingers then shoved it in Willies face like Don Lemon did to a guy in a bar. Maybe he sexually assaulted a child. There's a million things that could have happened, we have no idea. 

 

Or it could have been stupid drama that made this entirely unacceptable.

 

Maybe the guy did nothing and Wiilies group hunted an innocent man down. 

 

We'll know when the facts come out. 

 

Like a normal, reasonable adult, I'll reserve judgement until then. I won't be campaign for him to be fired from his job and thrown in prison until i know what actually happened. 

 

Or you can act off emotions and bias and demand he be fired, never work on tv again, and thrown in prison for 3-5.

Doesn't matter what he did, you don't get 5 guys to hold 1 guy while you smash them in the face over and over with a glass bottle. I can't believe you actually posted that online. Bad take 

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4 hours ago, ArtVandalay said:

The entirety of the preceeding events.  What led to this? For all you know prior to this this guy shot someone,  raped someone, jumped someone from behind,  he could have just robbed them with a knife or gun for all you know. Maybe he beat a women unconscious in the next room like Ray Rice. Maybe he walked up and exposed himself. Maybe he put his hand in his pants got the smell of his crotch on his fingers then shoved it in Willies face like Don Lemon did to a guy in a bar. Maybe he sexually assaulted a child. There's a million things that could have happened, we have no idea. 

 

Or it could have been stupid drama that made this entirely unacceptable.

 

Maybe the guy did nothing and Wiilies group hunted an innocent man down. 

 

We'll know when the facts come out. 

 

Like a normal, reasonable adult, I'll reserve judgement until then. I won't be campaign for him to be fired from his job and thrown in prison until i know what actually happened. 

 

Or you can act off emotions and bias and demand he be fired, never work on tv again, and thrown in prison for 3-5.

 

Dude...none of that matters under the law. If any of the stuff happens then you call the police. If they have no evidence and he walks, then you don't get to use vigilante justice as a backup. All of those are just idiotic arguments that have no basis under the law.

 

Comical how some people think any of that matters in terms of how the law actually works.

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On 12/19/2022 at 6:06 PM, Solomon Grundy said:

2nd only to Takeo Spikes, Willie McGinest is the last dude I'd mess with

Random story time…

 

One time Takeo called my father and chewed him out for not cutting his grass on time. It was the only time i’d ever seen my father with tears in his eyes from another man.

 

 

Come to find out he had two Kellys saved in his phone and called the wrong one 🤣 

 

Takeo is such a cool dude…just don’t mess with him

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4 hours ago, ArtVandalay said:

The entirety of the preceeding events.  What led to this? For all you know prior to this this guy shot someone,  raped someone, jumped someone from behind,  he could have just robbed them with a knife or gun for all you know. Maybe he beat a women unconscious in the next room like Ray Rice. Maybe he walked up and exposed himself. Maybe he put his hand in his pants got the smell of his crotch on his fingers then shoved it in Willies face like Don Lemon did to a guy in a bar. Maybe he sexually assaulted a child. There's a million things that could have happened, we have no idea. 

 

Or it could have been stupid drama that made this entirely unacceptable.

 

Maybe the guy did nothing and Wiilies group hunted an innocent man down. 

 

We'll know when the facts come out. 

 

Like a normal, reasonable adult, I'll reserve judgement until then. I won't be campaign for him to be fired from his job and thrown in prison until i know what actually happened. 

 

Or you can act off emotions and bias and demand he be fired, never work on tv again, and thrown in prison for 3-5.

 

this just gets better and better!  Holy cow!  "a million things"!!  yes. YES!!

 

Anyway, you are allowing for the possibility that "something" will come out where you, personally, in this thread will argue that Willie should be able to keep his job?

 

You will come here and say: "despite his obvious commission of a crime on video, the circumstances under which he committed it should allow for him to keep his job"?

 

And, since you have already conceded that none of the "million things" you listed would be an adequate legal  defense, you believe he should keep his job while on trial?  After conviction?  Has to be a "yes", right?  Your posts have painted you  into that corner.

 

Let's hear it

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16 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

Dude...none of that matters under the law. If any of the stuff happens then you call the police. If they have no evidence and he walks, then you don't get to use vigilante justice as a backup. All of those are just idiotic arguments that have no basis under the law.

 

Comical how some people think any of that matters in terms of how the law actually works.

We aren't just taking about court of law, we are talking everyone immediately calling him a thug and pitch forks saying he should be canceled and fired from his job. None of that has to do with court of law.

 

And actuality yes, those items i mentioned although he will be in some sort of legal trouble will directly impact severity and if jail is every a possibility. He could just get a fine, and probation. The other guy might also be in legal trouble depending what happened.

 

But go ahead keep going through life making snap judgements with no facts based purely off your bias and sliver of knowledge without any understanding of facts. Im sure that will work out well for you. Pitch fork mentality has been so great for society 😆

 

Anyway we can agree to disagree... i like having facts before judging people, your don't, that's cool. 

 

Merry Christmas! If you see someone coming down your chimney he's not a burgler breaking in,  just santa so don't rush to judgement on him. 

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On 12/24/2022 at 2:41 PM, ArtVandalay said:

The entirety of the preceeding events.  What led to this? For all you know prior to this this guy shot someone,  raped someone, jumped someone from behind,  he could have just robbed them with a knife or gun for all you know. Maybe he beat a women unconscious in the next room like Ray Rice. Maybe he walked up and exposed himself. Maybe he put his hand in his pants got the smell of his crotch on his fingers then shoved it in Willies face like Don Lemon did to a guy in a bar. Maybe he sexually assaulted a child. There's a million things that could have happened, we have no idea. 

 

Or it could have been stupid drama that made this entirely unacceptable.

 

Maybe the guy did nothing and Wiilies group hunted an innocent man down. 

 

We'll know when the facts come out. 

 

Like a normal, reasonable adult, I'll reserve judgement until then. I won't be campaign for him to be fired from his job and thrown in prison until i know what actually happened. 

 

Or you can act off emotions and bias and demand he be fired, never work on tv again, and thrown in prison for 3-5.

Art, you’ll never be my latex salesman. 

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