NFL Week #15 - Fish at Buffalo - Post Game Thread

[KHAN]

Knox and Davis making a resurgence could be huge.

 

4 TD passes. 2 to tight ends, 2 to running backs.

 

Motor getting, important, tough, game winning drive yards.

 

Josh impersonating Super Man in crunch time again.

 

After being dominated in the third quarter after Morse went out. The O-Line found a way to give Josh some time, and open some holes for Motor in crunch time.

 

These are a few of my favorite things.

 

 

[Nextmanup]

32 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

Unless you are a hopeless diehard

This game was sh**

Reminds me of the Rams game; the list of things to complain about as a Bills fan is about 17 items long.  We did a LOT of really bad things...but found a way to win.  We've been doing this now for 7 or 8 games; I've lost count. 

 

If we can somehow do that to the end of the year, great!  My theory is this will not work when the competition gets good in the playoffs.  And at some point we are going to have to beat KC and Philadelphia too.  We will never beat either of those teams playing the way we have been playing.

 

The good news is we can flip the switch at any time (I'm waiting) and then none of this matters.

 

The key is playing our best for like 2 or 3 games at the end of the year.

 

 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

6 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

it looked like a WIN. 
 

also looked like most snow games snowballs fly. Why is it an issue today?  

I’m confused by that as well…people are making it seem like it’s never happened before but it happens every snow game.

 

I’ve never seen a coach complain about it, especially a coach with a laughably huge early season home field advantage of his own 

[Cray51]

Dolphins this year are our Patriots of last year.  
 

lost the first game in tough conditions

 win the second game close where the other team played hard

 

 the thing about playing teams three times, the better team tends to come out ahead.  The bills are the better team.  If we play them in the playoffs, I expect we win by a larger margin

[FLFan]

21 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I’ve NEVER seen a whinier fan base following a loss. The takeaway from them was “the refs.”

That may be true.  I am also wondering this morning after seeing the incredible hot takes on this forum if there is any whinier fan base after a win.

[YoloinOhio]

2 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said:

Our opponents seem to have no issue getting their WR1 touches.

Diggs had more targets (9) than anyone else. He also 3rd in the entire league in average targets per game. 

Edited December 18, 2022 by YoloinOhio

[SCBills]

1 minute ago, KHAN said:

Knox and Davis making a resurgence could be huge.

 

4 TD passes. 2 to tight ends, 2 to running backs.

 

Motor getting, important, tough, game winning drive yards.

 

Josh impersonating Super Man in crunch time again.

 

After being dominated in the third quarter after Morse went out. The O-Line found a way to give Josh some time, and open some holes for Motor in crunch time.

 

These are a few of my favorite things.

 

 

Knox drops are frustrating, but he is a game breaker when our offense gets him going vertical.  
 

Not many Tight Ends in the league move like him. 
 

Even with the two drops, he made our offense look dangerous again last night. 

[Billsfan1972]

2 minutes ago, SCBills said:

I’m sure it’s frustrating watching other guys drop passes, not run the correct routes, not execute plays and then not get force fed the ball if you’re an elite WR. 
 

When guys are executing, he definitely doesn’t have that attitude. 
 

I get it … but at the same time, McKenzie was more open than Diggs on the play that triggered it… Allen just overthrew it on the run. 

Regardless a hold was called on that play which would have negated any catch.

[GoBills808]

24 minutes ago, muppy said:

I was talking about this to hubby last night. PLEASE Stefon Please don't be the guy that thinks he is the Only man who can help our team win. It's just not the kind of thing you want to begin to grow and fester on the TEAM. Hear me bro TEAM. They Love you. You'll get your touches. 

Diggs can do or say whatever he wants

 

He and Allen are the only ones on offense worth a ***** and they know it

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

16 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Oh, we are BRUTAL. This is beyond us. Usually you see a mix of excuses and “the better team one.” The fins fans, universally, believe that they were robbed by the refs. 

Then I'm not sure what the ***** they were watching 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

23 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I’ve NEVER seen a whinier fan base following a loss. The takeaway from them was “the refs.”

the irony is that they should be blaming their own coach. They lost because the boy genius hipster McDaniel decided to stop running Mostert when they got inside the 10-yard line. Had to settle for 2 FGs. 

[Bermuda Triangle]

Just now, YoloinOhio said:

Diggs had more targets (9) than anyone else 

Targets = /= touches.

 

Hill had 13 targets.  Look how many touches Wilson, St. Brown and Cooper got as opposed to Diggs, in the last 3 games.  It's become a trend.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

20 minutes ago, Mango said:

I thought the Bills got a lot of favorable calls honestly. I think we would have done the same had things been reversed. 

Orly? Which ones 

[Low Positive]

3 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

the irony is that they should be blaming their own coach. They lost because the boy genius hipster McDaniel decided to stop running Mostert when they got inside the 10-yard line. Had to settle for 2 FGs. 

His clock management at the end was pretty bad too.

[jahnyc]

Some quick observations. 

 

1.  The Bills have won 11 games and are on their way to the playoffs again and another division crown.  The team is well coached, has a strong front office, and is blessed with an amazing QB, who also is a fit in terms of personality and demeanor for the franchise.

2.  We lack speed at WR and RB.  Cook seems to have some quickness, but he does not seem to play fast.  Miami has skill players on offense that play fast and are fast (Hill, Waddle and Mostert).  The Bills need a WR that will stretch the field.

3.  Our reserves/back-ups have been somewhat disappointing, except on the DL.  It may be unfair to be critical about this since very few (if any) NFL teams have adequate depth at this point of the season, or have players that can step-in and play at a quality starter level, but the play of back-ups in our secondary and o-line has not been good.  Jaquan Johnson has played poorly, Hamlin's play has been inconsistent, and Terell Bernard isn't ready at this point at LB (which required us to sign Klein).  On the o-line, I have a feeling that Q, our top reserve, has been playing through injuries, which has impacted his overall play.

4.  Our rookies have not had the impact that we were expecting after a strong pre-season.  Elam has deficiencies in tackling ability, Shakir has disappeared for some reason, Cook seems to be improving after a slow start to the season and Bernard does not seem ready for a significant role on defense at this point.  I think this draft class will turn out to be an above average group, but it will take time.

5.  Agree with posters who think the o-line needs to be upgraded.

6.  Kind of nice that former players want to come back and play for the Bills.  Shows the team culture and appeal of the Buffalo area is strong.

7.  Josh is awesome and makes this team a top contender.

 

[Billsfan1972]

2 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

the irony is that they should be blaming their own coach. They lost because the boy genius hipster McDaniel decided to stop running Mostert when they got inside the 10-yard line. Had to settle for 2 FGs. 

The Bills too were lucky they dropped a td pass.

 

One thing the Bills have been good at is defending first and goal inside tge 5.

 

The issue is allowing them to get there.

[muppy]

3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Diggs can do or say whatever he wants

 

He and Allen are the only ones on offense worth a ***** and they know it

wow. That's quite a statement,  I think it's baloney but you do you

[Bermuda Triangle]

1 hour ago, appoo said:

Some day after thoughts here

 

1) Tre lost at least one step, if not more. With ACLs it can take 2 years to regain full explosion. Right now the Bills have one of the worst secondaries in the league 

 

2) Dorsey has a really tough job. He’s got an elite QB, a good set of skills players. If Allen had a decent OLije and this team might score 80% of its drives. But he has a really bad one, and how to manage this offense is complicated as *****.  Do you limit the routes and ask these guys to run mostly short stuff or do you trust Allen to be magical and continue to run the longer developing stuff, and get him to make absurd throws on the run after his protection fails after 2 seconds if not immediately?

3) the bills have one of the best front 7s in the league that’s being hamstrung by its corner play. The Phins have a decent OLine, but the Bills can still held Tua to almost 50% (17-30), and that’s because on a bunch of plays they got some pressure on him or the Bills linebackers took away easy throws - but those outside yards were there

 

4) fortunately for the Bills, no one else has the unique threats that stress the corners like the Dolphins present. They’ve somehow captured the two best deep threats in the league

5) the Bengals are flat out more talented than this roster. Gonna have to be on Allen

 

6) forget drafting WR. The Bills need to draft/FA picking a starting RT, LG, and another corner who’s a 4.3 - 4.4 guy and convert Tre to a nickel or safety, unless he regains speed this off-season. Think he can be an elite safety, but as a corner without his normal initial burst he’s just average at best. You fix the oline and think we’re fine at WR

Agreed with all but #6.  IMO, we do need a WR, pretty badly.  

[SCBills]

6 minutes ago, Cray51 said:

Dolphins this year are our Patriots of last year.  
 

lost the first game in tough conditions

 win the second game close where the other team played hard

 

 the thing about playing teams three times, the better team tends to come out ahead.  The bills are the better team.  If we play them in the playoffs, I expect we win by a larger margin

Agreed .. However, the Dolphins/Tua impressed me last night.   Pats never really impressed me last year. 
 

I did NOT see that offensive performance in the cold coming.   They did look a bit shook when the snow came down..  Hit a jump ball but then short circuited. 
 

We have the better defense, but last night was NOT a good performance by Frazier’s group at all. 
 

Dolphins have the better offensive talent.. might be behind only SF/Philly in terms of talent, but as we saw last night… Elite QB’s are worth their weight in gold… and we have the elite of the elite at QB. 
 

Edited December 18, 2022 by SCBills

[DCbillsfan]

8 minutes ago, slipkid said:

Great win! I have very little tk add about that.

 

But this needs to be said and probably doesn’t need its own thread. Can we stop now with the sideline coach “interviews” to start the second and third quarters?

We’re all dumber for having to hear them.

Actually I loved hearing McDaniel splain away why giving up a TD right before half wasn't a big deal.  Still a one score game.  Then he goes for 2 PT conversion early in 3rd qtr and fails.  Cheap entertainment.