Alphadawg7 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Shake_My_Head said: WE DON'T LEAD THE NFL IN DROPS (Green bay does, with 30) WE RANK 6th IN DROP PERCENTAGE (6.4%) TAKE AWAY McKENZIE'S DROPS AND WE'RE AT THE NFL AVERAGE (5.2%) Take away drops? LMAO...thats excatly why we signed Cole...to take away drops 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: 2022 Diggs 7 Davis 7 McKenzie 5 Shakir 2 Knox 2 2021 Beasley 6 (Just Saying) How many targets did Beasley have compared to the guys on this list? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillzFreak Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, vincec said: Marquez Stephenson dumped from the PS to make room. It seems like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic but who knows. So winning 4 straight games and being the number 1 seed in the afc makes this team a sinking ship now? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: How many targets did Beasley have compared to the guys on this list? Right? Bease's number is for an entire season. The other guys still have 4 games worth of drops left. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake_My_Head Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Just now, Alphadawg7 said: Take away drops? LMAO...thats excatly why we signed Cole...to take away drops Take away Lil Dirty's drops from the Bills total and the overall drop percentage matches the 32-team NFL average. So, an easy solution to that problem--drop McKenzie (who's gadget role can be handled by Hines). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoMAn Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 59 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: You want to know the real reason he's here? To get revenge on the Buffalo Bills. Last time Cole Beasley was in Buffalo he drove away with his middle finger up in the air and Orchard Park in the rearview mirror. The organization wronged him. It was personal. Now that same organization is in the #1 seed and one of the favorites to win the Super Bowl. You really think Beasley is gonna let that happen?! Picture this: It's the AFC Championship Game. The Bills have the ball, down by 1 point. There's 10 seconds left. It's 4th and 5 and the Bills need to convert in order to get into FG range. Empty set, Allen takes the snap, Beasley finds a cushioned pocket in the zone 5 yards out. It's an easy pitch and catch opportunity. Done deal, right? WRONG!! Allen darts it to Beasley right between the numbers, but just as Allen releases it he notices something. There's a sly grin across Beasley's mug. Josh knows then. Flashback to 2021. The disease. The debates. The disorder. The dissention and desertion. Drop. Beasley let's the ball hit his hands and bounce to the ground. Game over. Beasley takes off his helmet and throws that middle finger in the air, calmly rotating in a circle so the stadium full of helpless fans can see. He strides away into the tunnel darkness. The End. Ha😊 more likely he wants to win SB, thereby giving Brady the middle finger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurelius Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 I think it’s a solid signing at this point in the year. Josh has a comfort level with him and he gets open in the slot. He wasn’t successful at Tampa, but I think that’s just because new system, QB etc. We are hurting for production out of the slot and I can see him making some big plays and bailing Josh out a. It down the stretch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Can we get Emmanuel Sanders back? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Take away drops? LMAO...thats excatly why we signed Cole...to take away drops How many targets did Beasley have compared to the guys on this list? DIggs has 133 TGTs Davis 71 McKenzie 55 Shakir 17 Beasley (2021) 112 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, BillzFreak said: So winning 4 straight games and being the number 1 seed in the afc makes this team a sinking ship now? The slot WR position. Otherwise they wouldn't be dumpster diving for help. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, Shake_My_Head said: WE DON'T LEAD THE NFL IN DROPS (Green bay does, with 30) WE RANK 6th IN DROP PERCENTAGE (6.4%) TAKE AWAY McKENZIE'S DROPS AND WE'RE AT THE NFL AVERAGE (5.2%) https://scores.nbcsports.com/fb/tmleaders.asp?range=NFL&type=Receiving&rank=232 drops are a tough stat to track, but I haven’t seen GB with 30 drops anywhere. Do you have a link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, BillzFreak said: So winning 4 straight games and being the number 1 seed in the afc makes this team a sinking ship now? OMG get the metaphor. It refers to engaging in a pointless activity. Like sting that signing Bease and dumping Stevenson is like changing one dirty tshirt for another equally dirty T-shirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) I'm glad Bease is signed to the PS like I wanted earlier in this post (way back 40 pages last night). LOL. I'll pass on the Vax/Personal Rights/Civil War talk and just add what I think can maybe work out as a pretty good roll of the dice. Cole signed to the PS for $80K. A spit in the ocean compared if the Bills kept him this year. Cole has been getting injured during the season and has been limited by those injuries for the playoffs. Now there is a chance that in a few weeks he can be healthy and to the level we would have hoped for if he stayed. In a similar situation is John Brown on the outside WR spot. If just one of these moves ends up being a plus to the team, it worked out great. Imagine if both hit. Well done by John, Cole, Josh, Sean and Brandon! Go Bills! Edited December 13, 2022 by ColoradoBills 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLinALLEN Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 18 minutes ago, Pokebball said: Who were the other options at this point? I think we're agreeing with the decision. My question was more of an affirmation to your post (point). I gotcha now. Yeah there really wasn't anybody else out there unless you wanted to swoop in on TY hilton or risk it with OBJ. A familiar face that can get open especially in the middle with Bease has me more excited than brown or even OBJ (if he truly wasnt 100% ready). I truly wonder if this was a Beane idea or if Josh asked for it like Rodgers did with Cobb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Mango said: Drops are an issue. Don't get me wrong. But people are also conflating catch% with drops. Take the Jets game, Shakir's only target was basically a throw away OOB. That counts as 0% catch rate on the stat page. Also, Miami is tied in drops with 25 and they have Hill, Waddle, and Big Mike at TE. You throw the ball a lot, you get a lot of drops. We seem to be dropping a ton the last month. I don't get it. It didn't feel like a huge issue in the first 8 games of the season. We are getting short throw drops on critical downs to kill drives and remove points, that is bigger issue here. I am not confusing catch percentage...I am talking about guys who have plays to be made in their hands and don't make the plays. We don't have a duo of Waddle and Hill who can bail us out...we can not afford to drop passes and kill drives. Outside of Diggs, we don't have someone we can depend on to make a tough or contested catch on 3rd down. McKenzie is only good at running fast, he doesn't make touch catches, he goes down if the wind blows, and he can't fight for yards to get a first down. Not to mention, Cole is at the very least one of the most cerebral players in the NFL on the field, he understands how to adjust and get open and fight for a spot for Josh when he is extending plays. That alone is of value. McKenzie has a role...he is best suited as a 4th WR who can create a mismatch and get lost in the defense with his speed and make a play. He is not the guy you ever want to throw to in traffic if you don't have to. Cole doesn't need to give us 7 catches a game to have value...if he can help extend another drive or two a game with a key first down, that alone will be an improvement on what is going on now with the inconsistency of the offense. I think this was a good signing, him and Josh are close, and Josh asked for him to be brought back. That alone is enough to be happy Cole is back. Josh didn't ask for a favor to help his friend...Josh is the one asking for help...and he wouldn't be asking for help if he didn't need it. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Just now, ALLinALLEN said: I gotcha now. Yeah there really wasn't anybody else out there unless you wanted to swoop in on TY hilton or risk it with OBJ. A familiar face that can get open especially in the middle with Bease has me more excited than brown or even OBJ (if he truly wasnt 100% ready). I truly wonder if this was a Beane idea or if Josh asked for it like Rodgers did with Cobb. Sal/WGR all reporting that Josh has been asking for Brown and Bease back for weeks. Got Brown back, and after Sunday's drop debacle Josh and McD pushed for Bease. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLinALLEN Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: Sal/WGR all reporting that Josh has been asking for Brown and Bease back for weeks. Got Brown back, and after Sunday's drop debacle Josh and McD pushed for Bease. Appreciate the followup - good to know! Josh asking and receiving his weapons back could be just the medicine this Offense needed. Hopeful. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Summary Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Beasley had taken some serious physical punishment when he left us. Dude was beat up. Looking forward to what he may be able to do for the few remaining games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: DIggs has 133 TGTs Davis 71 McKenzie 55 Shakir 17 Beasley (2021) 112 And there you go...if they all had 112 targets, the list of drops looks quite a bit different. Cole was signed because Josh wanted help...and the drop rate shows why he wanted help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillzFreak Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: OMG get the metaphor. It refers to engaging in a pointless activity. Like sting that signing Bease and dumping Stevenson is like changing one dirty tshirt for another equally dirty T-shirt. If you say so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: We are getting short throw drops on critical downs to kill drives and remove points, that is bigger issue here. I am not confusing catch percentage...I am talking about guys who have plays to be made in their hands and don't make the plays. We don't have a duo of Waddle and Hill who can bail us out...we can not afford to drop passes and kill drives. Outside of Diggs, we don't have someone we can depend on to make a tough or contested catch on 3rd down. McKenzie is only good at running fast, he doesn't make touch catches, he goes down if the wind blows, and he can't fight for yards to get a first down. Not to mention, Cole is at the very least one of the most cerebral players in the NFL on the field, he understands how to adjust and get open and fight for a spot for Josh when he is extending plays. That alone is of value. McKenzie has a role...he is best suited as a 4th WR who can create a mismatch and get lost in the defense with his speed and make a play. He is not the guy you ever want to throw to in traffic if you don't have to. Cole doesn't need to give us 7 catches a game to have value...if he can help extend another drive or two a game with a key first down, that alone will be an improvement on what is going on now with the inconsistency of the offense. I think this was a good signing, him and Josh are close, and Josh asked for him to be brought back. That alone is enough to be happy Cole is back. Josh didn't ask for a favor to help his friend...Josh is the one asking for help...and he wouldn't be asking for help if he didn't need it. The Dolphins have the same number of drops as us with near identical attempts..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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