Will Kevin McCarthy Be The Speaker Of The House? Or Mitch Senate Majority Leader?

[Warcodered]

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

I’ll answer this ridiculous Tweet….how can you not? Because just have a speech that sounded like he won something that he just LOST….that’s how. Entirely inappropriate, but Hakeem (who’s always seemed like a likeable fellow to me) went for the cheap politics instead of the humble “we’re anxious to work with you Mr Speaker”….and then SIT DOWN!!

Maybe it would have been shorter if he didn't have four days to write it?

[BillsFanNC]

2 minutes ago, Westside said:

No, nasty pelosi is gone

 

While there are absolutely different degrees and Pelosi has long staked her place at the truly awful end of the spectrum, the whole frigging body sucks donkey balls.

[Westside]

Just now, BillsFanNC said:

 

While there are absolutely different degrees and Pelosi has long staked her place at the truly awful end of the spectrum, the whole frigging body sucks donkey balls.

Oh I agree. Both sides suck ass. I just love sticking the progressives faces in their own BS. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

ya know, the more I read, the more I'm convinced what great people these folks are...

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/sex-trafficking-row-helped-fuel-231758530.html

[Roundybout]

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

I’ll answer this ridiculous Tweet….how can you not? Because just have a speech that sounded like he won something that he just LOST….that’s how. Entirely inappropriate, but Hakeem (who’s always seemed like a likeable fellow to me) went for the cheap politics instead of the humble “we’re anxious to work with you Mr Speaker”….and then SIT DOWN!!

Yeah, I would much rather Jeffries loudly boos McCarthy like MTG and Boebert did to Biden. that was so classy and not childish at all!

[BillsFanNC]

6 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

Yeah, I would much rather Jeffries loudly boos McCarthy like MTG and Boebert did to Biden. that was so classy and not childish at all!

 

I know really!

 

If only they would follow the example of senior house leadership then we'd have nothing but pure class all around.

 

 

 

 

 

[T master]

On 11/12/2022 at 7:44 AM, Tiberius said:

Inquiring minds want to know

 

If the GOP holds on and wins by a couple of seats his path to speakership looks dark and fraught with peril. Those crazies in his party will demand impeachments and all that, Trump is already demanding his support in 2024 and then the rest of that caucus will surely object to his going to far over to the hard core Freedom Causcus side. 

 

 

What a mess! 

 

This entire episode that is happening right now in our gov't shows just exactly how inept they are and We The People put these jack asses in office so what exactly does that say about how smart the American people are ? 

 

If any of us wonder why the US is in the shape that it is just sit back & watch a 3 stooges episode makes more sense than what these "supposedly highly educated politicians" can muster . 

 

With this type of leadership from the top on down the US is so screwed and there are those that will applaud them all the way to the bottom of the hill as they fall !! 

 

The one good thing is that while they play gov't they can't pass any more of their stupid bills they have until they get this cluster F of a deal figured out ! 

2 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

I know really!

 

If only they would follow the example of senior house leadership then we'd have nothing but pure class all around.

 

 

 

 

 

 

The only thing that could be worse is having this Biotch come back as a default to be speaker she was a moron unmatched in the history of that position !! 

[Buffarukus]

3 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

Dang!  You support Medicare for all?  They were being realistic.  Could never pass.  Too many wealthy (from money that should have gone to patient care) special interests.  It will take massive public pressure to git'r done.  Hop on the bandwagon with me!  I found it sad and illuminating that so many on the board were concerned at how Damar would pay his medical bills.

 

im not for or against anything until i hear the details. i generally look at things from a, does this make sense standpoint but also understand if something is running off the rails such as medical prices for average people im willing to give anything a try. "conserving" a broken system that is crushing people and bishing about every change suggested is just keeping the status quo. but im far from a progressive. i generally think their identity politics and massive giveaways are terrable ideas.  im more for fixing broken systems. progressives seem to want to just inflate them. 

 

believing "they were being realistic" is a load of junk. there will never be a good time or the right circumstances. you were elected running on somthing. you go in and use any means to get it done or put people on the books to effect their next election. they were in the exact same position as the freedom caucus and got ZERO concessions from pelosi. thinking about their own political careers. the dems give them a pass while condemning the right for trying....interesting who the "conservative" is now.

Edited January 7, 2023 by Buffarukus

[sherpa]

To think that in the late 1700's we had one million people and we came up with Washington, Jefferson, Madison and Monroe.

Now we have 335m and we come up with these?

[Doc]

Thankfully that's over.  Now time to get real governing going.

[Roundybout]

1 minute ago, Doc said:

Thankfully that's over.  Now time to get real governing going.

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12 minutes ago, sherpa said:

To think that in the late 1700's we had one million people and we came up with Washington, Jefferson, Madison and Monroe.

Now we have 335m and we come up with these?

Washington, Adams, et al would be seen as radical Antifa by the right wing. 

[Buffarukus]

3 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

fair point but the more effective way is to stop voting for morons, especially in the primaries.  Give the people a real choice..

 

you seem to think there is a choice. funny how the left talks about voter suppression and manipulation when its 100% fact bernie got shafted by the dnc machine and rolled over. tulsi got the same tactics used on trump by big tech manipulation such as google shutting down her search after she dismantled harris. its all forgotten. 

 

so the populist will ALWAYS be suppressed and minority and even if they do get elected. big gov will suck them in. the "squad" sure seems to squad up with every decision vote wise and sends little tweets and instagrams about how they are against it all later.

 

im no trump loyalist but people need to realize what he was. he was a unexpected wild card that the establishment did not want in power. of coarse the attack dogs were unleashed on the guy. when i ask leftists what policies effected people personally they did not like...i get crickets. so seems their hate is based on being told what to hate. his personal traits? tax cuts? really? as they applaud a man who cant speak clear sentances and budgets of trillions that gives nothing to them. i think its a bit more from external mindwashing to hate the man the way some do. but he does them plenty of favors to make it easy, i will admit.

Edited January 7, 2023 by Buffarukus

[Westside]

1 hour ago, Roundybout said:

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Washington, Adams, et al would be seen as radical Antifa by the right wing. 

You think they would be progressives?

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[Demongyz]

1 hour ago, Roundybout said:

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Washington, Adams, et al would be seen as radical Antifa by the right wing. 

That has to be the dumbest thing I have read in a long time.

 

Thanks!!

[Joe Ferguson forever]

58 minutes ago, Buffarukus said:

 

you seem to think there is a choice. funny how the left talks about voter suppression and manipulation when its 100% fact bernie got shafted by the dnc machine and rolled over. tulsi got the same tactics used on trump by big tech manipulation such as google shutting down her search after she dismantled harris. its all forgotten. 

 

so the populist will ALWAYS be suppressed and minority and even if they do get elected. big gov will suck them in. the "squad" sure seems to squad up with every decision vote wise and sends little tweets and instagrams about how they are against it all later.

 

im no trump loyalist but people need to realize what he was. he was a unexpected wild card that the establishment did not want in power. of coarse the attack dogs were unleashed on the guy. when i ask leftists what policies effected people personally they did not like...i get crickets. so seems their hate is based on being told what to hate. his personal traits? tax cuts? really? as they applaud a man who cant speak clear sentances and budgets of trillions that gives nothing to them. i think its a bit more from external mindwashing to hate the man the way some do. but he does them plenty of favors to make it easy, i will admit.

I think in Bernie's case (and no surprises, I love Bernie), it was more the DNC supporting Hilary and Biden then sabotaging the bern.  He definitely moved the other candidates left.  I think they were again pragmatic.  Bern couldn't beat trump in the general.

[SoCal Deek]

7 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

I think in Bernie's case (and no surprises, I love Bernie), it was more the DNC supporting Hilary and Biden then sabotaging the bern.  He definitely moved the other candidates left.  I think they were again pragmatic.  Bern couldn't beat trump in the general.

What is it about Bernie that you love? I’m guessing it’s his support for government funded healthcare but is it something else? 

[Roundybout]

1 hour ago, Westside said:

You think they would be progressives?

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For their time, they were radical progressives yes. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

33 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

What is it about Bernie that you love? I’m guessing it’s his support for government funded healthcare but is it something else? 

That and the major idea to actually tax extreme wealth - at least close massive loop holes.  I also think he's a genuinely decent human.  As we've seen so often, character and integrity matter.

Edited January 7, 2023 by redtail hawk

[SoCal Deek]

On a lighter note….while watching some of last night’s congressional ‘drama’ (remember it’s on way earlier on the west coast) I noticed a congresswoman walking up the aisle sporting a large purse with a big Buffalo Bills logo on it. Anyone have any idea who that might have been? 
 

Go Bills! 

Edited January 7, 2023 by SoCal Deek

[Buffarukus]

39 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

I think in Bernie's case (and no surprises, I love Bernie), it was more the DNC supporting Hilary and Biden then sabotaging the bern.  He definitely moved the other candidates left.  I think they were again pragmatic.  Bern couldn't beat trump in the general.

 

whatever the reason the dnc felt its not their place to flat out subvert the peoples choice. giving hillary debate questions and handicapping his campaign is flat out election manipulation that the left ignored..yet scream about. they are telling dems they know what's best for them which is pretty psychotic in a age that has people up in arms about every vote matters and attacks on democracy. let alone the dems activley working to take valid runners from the green party or funding maga candidates campaigns then talking about how they are so dangerous. you dont want bernie talk to him and have him bow out instead of using some pretty corrupt tactics to sabotage him. 

 

at the very least trump proved the republicans run with who wins in the primaries. they are also now proving if they run they will go against their own machine. id say that's integrity some call it the biggest threat our nation has ever seen.

[SoCal Deek]

8 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

That and the major idea to actually tax extreme wealth - at least close massive loop holes.  I also think he's a genuinely decent human.  As we've seen so often, character and integrity matter.

It’s interesting. No matter how much money I’ve made in my life I’ve never cared one bit what anyone else is paying  in taxes. I never give it a moment’s thought. I don’t see what difference it makes to me. But to each his own. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

4 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

It’s interesting. No matter how much money I’ve made in my life I’ve never cared one bit what anyone else is paying  in taxes. I never give it a moment’s thought. I don’t see what difference it makes to me. But to each his own. 

haven't been round here long enough but you probably shouldn't complain about the deficit then.  I believe in fairness.  Definitions of that word may differ but clearly the tax code is currently and inherently unfair.  hell trump gave me a decent chunk in tax breaks and I still hate his guts.  maybe even more than before I got extra cash.

 

Edited January 7, 2023 by redtail hawk

[SoCal Deek]

2 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

haven't been round here long enough but you probably shouldn't complain about the deficit then.  I believe in fairness.  Definitions of that word may differ but clearly the tax code is currently and inherently unfair.  hell trump gave me a decent chunk in tax breaks and I still hate his guts.  maybe even more than before I got extra cash.

 

We don’t have a taxation problem. We have a spending problem. The government takes in trillions of dollars each year and yet has managed to outspend that income every year regardless of which party is in control. Having Bills Gates pay more isn’t going to cure that condition and even if he does, it’ll have zero impact on your life. 

[Tiberius]

Will will Biden be impeached? 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

20 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

We don’t have a taxation problem. We have a spending problem. The government takes in trillions of dollars each year and yet has managed to outspend that income every year regardless of which party is in control. Having Bills Gates pay more isn’t going to cure that condition and even if he does, it’ll have zero impact on your life. 

it will impact it and historically has.  We'd have lost WW2 without massive tax increases.  Congress' primary job is to control the purse as prescribed by the founders.  It's vitally important and they understood that.  Does principle mean nothing to you?  the concept of fairness?

 

Edited January 7, 2023 by redtail hawk

[SoCal Deek]

2 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

it will impact it and historically has.  We'd have lost WW2 without massive tax increases.  Congress' primary job is to control the purse as prescribed by the founders.  It's vitally important and they understood that.  Does principle mean nothing to you?  the concept of fairness?

 

What? WWII?  Fairness? Give me a break. Trust me…I pay way more in taxes than the vast majority of people. If you’d like to propose a flat tax on ALL income, count me in! 

[All_Pro_Bills]

40 minutes ago, Buffarukus said:

 

whatever the reason the dnc felt its not their place to flat out subvert the peoples choice. giving hillary debate questions and handicapping his campaign is flat out election manipulation that the left ignored..yet scream about. they are telling dems they know what's best for them which is pretty psychotic in a age that has people up in arms about every vote matters and attacks on democracy. let alone the dems activley working to take valid runners from the green party or funding maga candidates campaigns then talking about how they are so dangerous. you dont want bernie talk to him and have him bow out instead of using some pretty corrupt tactics to sabotage him. 

 

at the very least trump proved the republicans run with who wins in the primaries. they are also now proving if they run they will go against their own machine. id say that's integrity some call it the biggest threat our nation has ever seen.

Progressive idealists talk a good game but they're phonies that are afraid of the uncertainty and risk that true democracy carries with it.  They're comfortable with authoritarian rule as long as they "feel" good about it.  They think debate and disagreement is equivalent to terrorism.  Their social justice agenda is a frivolity enabled by good times led by people with no real problems of their own and hands in somebody else's pocket picking up the tab.  

 

That's not to excuse the "Right" either.  They also talk a good game but when it comes to the moment of truth, they fail to deliver time and again.  Let's just say my expectations for the "new" House are pretty low.  Most likely they'll deliver nothing. 

 

And when it comes to war spending there's no line or division between these left and right segments.  They're all in on it.  

 

My problem is the government is simply sucking the life out of the country.  It's too big and intrusive.  And what have they done lately?  Say, 30 years ago a couple could raise a family on an average salary with one person needing to work.  Today, both have to work just to break even.  Along with the Fed they've systematically destroyed the value of the dollar.  Our money is trending toward worthless.  That's progress?  You could go to college or send your kids without having to mortgage your home or commit your retirement funds or take out huge loans that burden borrowers for years.  We've got all kinds of technology and science but now a trip to the hospital can be followed by a trip to bankruptcy.  Taxes are way too high sucking 40, maybe 60 percent of some people's earnings.  Huge government spending has sucked the life out of the American middle and working classes.  All this is what, progress?  But hey, on your way to the poorhouse and living in the streets you can rest at ease that you'll be addressed with your preferred pronouns.  

 

  

 

 

Edited January 7, 2023 by All_Pro_Bills

[Joe Ferguson forever]

4 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

What? WWII?  Fairness? Give me a break. Trust me…I pay way more in taxes than the vast majority of people. If you’d like to propose a flat tax on ALL income, count me in! 

flat tax is inherently unfair.  I have paid plenty of tax and maxed out social security eligible benefits years ago.  So what?  Not sure what u don't understand about WW2.  Taxes were higher than ever due to the cost of the war.  And people sacrificed both blood and treasure mostly without complaint.  it actually would have been much less costly if we engaged there nazi's immediately.  kinda like we're doing with the Russians in Ukraine now.

Edited January 7, 2023 by redtail hawk

[SoCal Deek]

Just now, redtail hawk said:

flat tax is inherently unfair.  I have paid plenty of tax and maxed out social security benefits years ago.  So what?  Not sure what u don't understand about WW2.  Taxes were higher than ever due to the cost of the war.  And people sacrificed both blood and treasure mostly without complaint.

We have a vastly different definition of fairness. When I’m paying close to 50% of my income in taxes…I’m gonna say that’s more than enough. (This is not 1942)

[Joe Ferguson forever]

1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said:

We have a vastly different definition of fairness. When I’m paying close to 50% of my income in taxes…I’m gonna say that’s more than enough. (This is not 1942)

yes we do.  https://www.yahoo.com/video/handle-94-tax-rate-18-150000008.html.  how much in your taxes is a soldiers life worth in iraq or Afghanistan.   Should monetize that?

Edited January 7, 2023 by redtail hawk

[SoCal Deek]

1 minute ago, redtail hawk said:

yes we do.  https://www.yahoo.com/video/handle-94-tax-rate-18-150000008.html

You do realize that you’re more than welcome to send in more money each year, right? You go first! 😉

[Roundybout]

1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said:

You do realize that you’re more than welcome to send in more money each year, right? You go first! 😉

Corporations and the wealthy paid a lot more back in the “good old days” that everyone misses. 
 

of course, a land value tax and a carbon tax would go a lot farther, but that’s a discussion for another day …

[Joe Ferguson forever]

12 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

You do realize that you’re more than welcome to send in more money each year, right? You go first! 😉

I pay what I owe as determined by our gov't.  So apparently did Donald Trump but I paid a much higher percentage of my income than him.   I suspect you did as well.  If that doesn't bother you then fine.  Perhaps YOU can pay his share of the cost of running the country.  And then the 50% of Americans that pay no federal tax  are the ones yelling "socialism" at the top of their lungs.  Maybe they should shut up since they have no skin in the game...oh, and yell "No socialized medicine" while simultaneously yelling "don't touch my medicare/medicaid."  I've actually heard this many times.  Most were Trump supporters.  Go figure...

 

Edited January 7, 2023 by redtail hawk

[SoCal Deek]

7 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

I pay what I owe as determined by our gov't.  So apparently did Donald Trump but I paid a much higher percentage of my income then him.   I suspect you did as well.  If that doesn't bother you then fine.  Perhaps YOU can pay his share of the cost of running the country.  And then the 50% oof Americans that pay no federal tax  are the ones yelling "socialism" at the top of their lungs.  Maybe they should shut up since they have no skin in the game

 

Everybody is paying the least amount possible. Seems fair enough to me. I have no idea what Trump has do with any of this. He didn’t write the tax code. Seems to me a better target for your ire would be Ms Pelosi and/or Mr Biden….no? 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

3 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Everybody is paying the least amount possible. Seems fair enough to me. I have no idea what Trump has do with any of this. He didn’t write the tax code. Seems to me a better target for your ire would be Ms Pelosi and/or Mr Biden….no? 

He actually made it worse.  And I benefitted.  So there's that.  'm guessing "ethics" wasn't on the top of your college course list.

Edited January 7, 2023 by redtail hawk

[B-Man]

 

LOL.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And (of course)  he gets his first demand.

 

Zelenskyy congratulates Kevin McCarthy & is counting on ‘further assistance’

 

 

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2023/01/07/zelenskyy-congratulates-kevin-mccarthy-is-counting-on-further-assistance/

[Roundybout]

16 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

LOL.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And (of course)  he gets his first demand.

 

Zelenskyy congratulates Kevin McCarthy & is counting on ‘further assistance’

 

 

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2023/01/07/zelenskyy-congratulates-kevin-mccarthy-is-counting-on-further-assistance/

What’s wrong with this?

[BillStime]

🎯

 

 

[Buffarukus]

1 hour ago, redtail hawk said:

yes we do.  https://www.yahoo.com/video/handle-94-tax-rate-18-150000008.html.  how much in your taxes is a soldiers life worth in iraq or Afghanistan.   Should monetize that?

 

your comparing ww2 with a war that was based on pure lies and one we were in for decades for no apparent reason? its interesting how it equates to "soldiers lives" when the american taxpayer has zero say in why or how long they are put at risk. 

[Tiberius]

52 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

LOL.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And (of course)  he gets his first demand.

 

Zelenskyy congratulates Kevin McCarthy & is counting on ‘further assistance’

 

 

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2023/01/07/zelenskyy-congratulates-kevin-mccarthy-is-counting-on-further-assistance/

Will the GOP allow assistance to a country partly under Russian occupation? Or is this the break poor Putin has been waiting for and his murderous terrorism will get a much needed show of obstructivism from GOP leadership?