ChiGoose Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: he's not right of Atilla the hun and therefore will never be elected speaker. Oh, and they don't trust him. Wonder why? I’m not sure how he gets over the top but I also don’t know who a viable alternative would be. Jordan? Scalise? This could go on for quite some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, muppy said: YEP Ditto. they are such a thing of the past. like a Pataki R. Just like the blue dog or Mod DEM. when politicians represent areas so heavily Nonpolitically diverse, there is no need for compromise. its just getting 51% to agree with you and eff the 49% 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Just now, Chris farley said: they are such a thing of the past. like a Pataki R. Just like the blue dog or Mod DEM. when politicians represent areas so heavily Nonpolitically diverse, there is no need for compromise. its just getting 51% to agree with you and eff the 49% We need serious electoral reform to fix this. No idea how we could pull it off though 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, Chris farley said: they are such a thing of the past. like a Pataki R. Just like the blue dog or Mod DEM. when politicians represent areas so heavily Nonpolitically diverse, there is no need for compromise. its just getting 51% to agree with you and eff the 49% The Reagan Tip O'Neil type compromise bipartisan deal days are loooooonnnnnggg in the rear view. That ship has sailed and is never coming back in any of our lifetimes. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) Edited January 4, 2023 by ChiGoose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, Chris farley said: they are such a thing of the past. like a Pataki R. Just like the blue dog or Mod DEM. when politicians represent areas so heavily Nonpolitically diverse, there is no need for compromise. its just getting 51% to agree with you and eff the 49% I vote my conscience. That is the limit of my personal politico power. The rest is out of my control so I try not to be anxious about things I cannot control Thank you for your note. 1 minute ago, BillsFanNC said: The Reagan Tip O'Neil type compromise bipartisan deal days are loooooonnnnnggg in the rear view. That ship has sailed and is never coming back in any of our lifetimes. Booo. I get it but I don't like it Happy New Year hermano. GO BILLS 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 15 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: We need serious electoral reform to fix this. No idea how we could pull it off though drawing electoral districts geographically would be a good start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Just now, redtail hawk said: drawing electoral districts geographically would be a good start. Haha, I have a whole list: 1. Instant Run-Off or Approval Voting: eliminate first past the post voting that leads to a two party system, polarization, and negative partisanship. 2. Eliminate gerrymandering nationwide 3. Multi-member districts: Each district sends more than one member to the House. Decrease geographic polarization 4. Campaign finance reform: severely restrict corporate funding and PACs in elections 5. Expand the House: The House grew as the country grew for the entire history of the US until 1929. It was supposed to be made up of members of the community, one for every 30,000 people. Now it’s elitists who represent almost 800,000 people each. For most Americans, they have the same relationship as their senators Actions like those would hopefully destroy the Democratic and Republican parties while returning power to the people instead of the corporate elite. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Geez people! Here's how it works. McCarthy sits down with the Republican hold-outs and gives them what they want...or some significant assurance/compromise. That's how legislation is made. That's how this will be resolved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Geez people! Here's how it works. McCarthy sits down with the Republican hold-outs and gives them what they want...or some significant assurance/compromise. That's how legislation is made. That's how this will be resolved. Or he won’t be elected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Just now, Westside said: Or he won’t be elected. Exactly.....and that's the same thing that happens when a piece of legislation dies. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Things Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 What an absolute sht show! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 46 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: yes, makes perfect sense. I was a registered Rockefeller R before they went nuts. 43 minutes ago, muppy said: YEP Ditto. You two lovebirds should get married. 😎 Rockefeller would be 174 years old if he were alive today. The r party has changed since the studebaker was all the rage, and the d party has as well. I’m a conservative with socially liberal tendencies who recognizes the abject stupidity of both parties at times. What appealed to me about Trump was his America first agenda. I don’t see that as really all that different than the “Buy American” movement of the 1970s by union democrats. I also tend to believe if you have your own house in order, it’s much easier to help others. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Matt Gaetz responds after Trump urges support for McCarthy: 'Sad!' Gaetz says Trump's endorsement of embattled Republican 'change neither my view of McCarthy, nor Trump, nor my vote' https://www.foxnews.com/politics/matt-gaetz-responds-trump-support-mccarthy-sad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Boebert, who squeaked to a win just disrespected Trump. Wow! You go lady. Got some big ovaries there! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Things Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Just now, redtail hawk said: Boebert, who squeaked to a win just disrespected Trump. Wow! You go lady. Got some big ovaries there! What did she say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Bad Things said: What did she say? paraphrasing: Trump called the 20 to change their votes. He should have called McCarthy to bow out Edited January 4, 2023 by redtail hawk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 17 hours ago, ChiGoose said: A strong leader would work across the caucus to inspire confidence and earn votes. Say what you will about Pelosi, she managed to get compromises with DemSocs and Blue Dogs. When they put a piece of legislation on the floor, nobody was getting everything they wanted but everyone felt they had been heard and their concerns were met. Confusing that with a party just being in lock step following the leader is as weird as looking at what’s happening with the House GOP caucus and thinking it’s because of competent democracy. I'm comfortable with the GOP not being in lockstep. Personally, I consider that a good thing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Pokebball said: I'm comfortable with the GOP not being in lockstep. Personally, I consider that a good thing. There’s a wide range between “in lockstep” and “utter chaos devoid of serious leadership” and the GOP is currently closer to the latter than the middle. Edited January 4, 2023 by ChiGoose 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 8 minutes ago, Pokebball said: I'm comfortable with the GOP not being in lockstep. Personally, I consider that a good thing. Amen. when the establishment in both parties are openly purchased and agenda hurts. the best thing for Americans is a deadlocked DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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