BLOODBATH 2.0

[L Ron Burgundy]

17 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said:

You don't want to bridge the gap, I can tell by your viewpoints. 

Bud, the one and only thing you mentioned that wasn't cultural bs created to divide us was the economy.   And that is primarily on covid, not the dems.  Though I admit this admin should be concentrating more on fixing it.

 

Please look inward.   You sound waaaay more than Hannity than I sound like Biden.  I promise, for what that's worth (nothing).

[HamSandwhich]

1 minute ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

Bud, the one and only thing you mentioned that wasn't cultural bs created to divide us was the economy.   And that is primarily on covid, not the dems.  Though I admit this admin should be concentrating more on fixing it.

 

Please look inward.   You sound waaaay more than Hannity than I sound like Biden.  I promise, for what that's worth (nothing).

What is wrong with you, policing, not getting stabbed, not getting shot, especially in brown and black neighborhoods where the rates are higher for violence is not a cultural issue. It's a safety issue, I don't agree with yours and your ilk's framing, I reject it out of hand. 

[Unforgiven]

1 hour ago, HamSandwhich said:

What is wrong with you, policing, not getting stabbed, not getting shot, especially in brown and black neighborhoods where the rates are higher for violence is not a cultural issue. It's a safety issue, I don't agree with yours and your ilk's framing, I reject it out of hand. 

They are self loathing anti American idiots, every last one of them.

[Tiberius]

1 hour ago, HamSandwhich said:

What is wrong with you, policing, not getting stabbed, not getting shot, especially in brown and black neighborhoods where the rates are higher for violence is not a cultural issue. It's a safety issue, I don't agree with yours and your ilk's framing, I reject it out of hand. 

Historic racism is a huge reason for that, but that said, rural America has a gun violence problem too. Not only is rural America awash in guns but all those drugs they take don't mix very well with the guns 

Just now, Unforgiven said:

They are self loathing anti American idiots, every last one of them.

MAGA is anti-American 

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

Historic racism is a huge reason for that, but that said, rural America has a gun violence problem too. Not only is rural America awash in guns but all those drugs they take don't mix very well with the guns 

MAGA is anti-American 

Please point to this rural gun problem? Forgot reading all about the shootouts and innocent bystanders getting hit in the cornfields of Nebraska.

[HamSandwhich]

16 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Historic racism is a huge reason for that, but that said, rural America has a gun violence problem too. Not only is rural America awash in guns but all those drugs they take don't mix very well with the guns 

MAGA is anti-American 

So what’s your suggestion? Take everyone’s guns? Are they using those guns like the Wild West like the inner cities, is that what you’re suggesting? You’d be a fool

[Andy1]

18 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

Please point to this rural gun problem? Forgot reading all about the shootouts and innocent bystanders getting hit in the cornfields of Nebraska.

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/gun-violence-in-rural-america/

[Tiberius]

14 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said:

So what’s your suggestion? Take everyone’s guns? Are they using those guns like the Wild West like the inner cities, is that what you’re suggesting? You’d be a fool

Take guns from people with a violent history, to start 

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

16 minutes ago, Andy1 said:

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/gun-violence-in-rural-america/

How does that compare to chicago and other urban areas? Didn't read the article.

[Andy1]

2 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

How does that compare to chicago and other urban areas? Didn't read the article.

In recent years, rural counties' proportional gun homicide rates outnumbered those of urban counties

Top 20 U.S. counties or county equivalents with the highest gun homicide rate, 2016–2020 

Table showing 20 counties with the highest gun homicide rates from 2016 to 2020, with rural counties appearing more frequently in the list. 

Table with 2 columns and 20 rows. Currently displaying rows 1 to 20.

 Age-adjusted rate per 100,000

Phillips County, Arkansas 55.45

Lowndes County, Alabama48.36

City of St. Louis, Missouri45.36

Macon County, Alabama44.34

City of Petersburg, Virginia42.45

Leflore County, Mississippi38.61

City of Baltimore, Maryland38.56

Dallas County, Alabama37.25

Dillon County, South Carolina 35.57

Washington County, Mississippi 34.19

Jefferson County, Arkansas34.08

Orleans Parish, Louisiana32.83

Holmes County, Mississippi32.31

Hinds County, Mississippi 31.68

Adams County, Mississippi28.26

Mississippi County, Arkansas27.80

Sunflower County, Mississippi 27.61

Coahoma County, Mississippi 27.19

Vance County, North Carolina 25.85

City of Danville, Virginia25.75

 

Media attention on large cities misrepresents the reality of gun violence in the United States

Despite negative media attention, many large cities are proportionately safer from gun violence than their rural counterparts:

Chicago is within Cook County, which ranks 79th for firearm homicide rates.

Philadelphia County ranks 38th for firearm homicide rates.

The five counties that encompass New York City rank between 360th and 521st for firearm homicide rates:

New York County (Manhattan) ranks 521st.

Kings County (Brooklyn) ranks 404th.

Bronx County (Bronx) ranks 360th.

Richmond County (Staten Island) ranks 488th.

Queens County (Queens) ranks 502nd.

Los Angeles County ranks 316th for firearm homicide rates.

[HamSandwhich]

25 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Take guns from people with a violent history, to start 

Start? 

12 minutes ago, Andy1 said:

In recent years, rural counties' proportional gun homicide rates outnumbered those of urban counties

Top 20 U.S. counties or county equivalents with the highest gun homicide rate, 2016–2020 

Table showing 20 counties with the highest gun homicide rates from 2016 to 2020, with rural counties appearing more frequently in the list. 

Table with 2 columns and 20 rows. Currently displaying rows 1 to 20.

 Age-adjusted rate per 100,000

Phillips County, Arkansas 55.45

Lowndes County, Alabama48.36

City of St. Louis, Missouri45.36

Macon County, Alabama44.34

City of Petersburg, Virginia42.45

Leflore County, Mississippi38.61

City of Baltimore, Maryland38.56

Dallas County, Alabama37.25

Dillon County, South Carolina 35.57

Washington County, Mississippi 34.19

Jefferson County, Arkansas34.08

Orleans Parish, Louisiana32.83

Holmes County, Mississippi32.31

Hinds County, Mississippi 31.68

Adams County, Mississippi28.26

Mississippi County, Arkansas27.80

Sunflower County, Mississippi 27.61

Coahoma County, Mississippi 27.19

Vance County, North Carolina 25.85

City of Danville, Virginia25.75

 

Media attention on large cities misrepresents the reality of gun violence in the United States

Despite negative media attention, many large cities are proportionately safer from gun violence than their rural counterparts:

Chicago is within Cook County, which ranks 79th for firearm homicide rates.

Philadelphia County ranks 38th for firearm homicide rates.

The five counties that encompass New York City rank between 360th and 521st for firearm homicide rates:

New York County (Manhattan) ranks 521st.

Kings County (Brooklyn) ranks 404th.

Bronx County (Bronx) ranks 360th.

Richmond County (Staten Island) ranks 488th.

Queens County (Queens) ranks 502nd.

Los Angeles County ranks 316th for firearm homicide rates.

What are the actual number? When you’re talking about 1 homicide in a population of 300, yeah that will make it look much higher. This is the dumbest argument. Give me hard numbers. Then let’s talk. If it makes you feel better give me numbers Vs the population, you’ll see how stupid this argument is.

 

Find a bunch of apples to apples comparisons I.e. comparable population size in a Republican area vs a democrat area and you’ll see the democratic areas far out pace the Republican areas. I don’t expect small minded leftists to understand. 

Edited April 6, 2023 by HamSandwhich

[Andy1]

The whole point of listing the rate per 100,000 people is to compare apples to apples with respect to population. Of course a city with 5 million people will have a higher absolute number than a rural county of 50,000 people, but that doesn’t mean it is more likely to occur there, just that more people live there. Rep vs Dem would be interesting to see.

[BillStime]

On 4/5/2023 at 9:05 PM, aristocrat said:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/stabbing-death-tech-executive-unleashes-170845014.html

 

Bob Lee, the 43-year-old founder of Cash App and a former executive at Square (now Block), was stabbed to death early Tuesday morning in downtown San Francisco.

Officers responded at 2:35 a.m. to a call reporting the stabbing and found Lee, who was visiting the city after having recently moved to Miami, according to NBC Bay Area. He was declared dead shortly after he was taken to the hospital, per a statement from San Francisco police.

No arrests have been made, and police haven’t released any details about a potential suspect.

After Lee’s death was reported, an outpouring of grief and remembrances for the tech executive, who also was the chief product officer at crypto startup MobileCoin, flooded social media. And along with the grief came a flood of anger over the state of San Francisco, which tech leaders have previously called the “worst run city in the United States.”

 

 

 

This aged well

 

 

[aristocrat]

20 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

This aged well

 

 

 

does this mean there's no crime in san fran?

[BillStime]

 

[BillStime]

 

[BillStime]

 

[BillStime]

Conald lost the House, the Senate and the White House. And where was the RED WAVE?

 

 

[Tommy Callahan]

On 4/6/2023 at 6:08 PM, Andy1 said:

In recent years, rural counties' proportional gun homicide rates outnumbered those of urban counties

Top 20 U.S. counties or county equivalents with the highest gun homicide rate, 2016–2020 

Table showing 20 counties with the highest gun homicide rates from 2016 to 2020, with rural counties appearing more frequently in the list. 

Table with 2 columns and 20 rows. Currently displaying rows 1 to 20.

 Age-adjusted rate per 100,000

Phillips County, Arkansas 55.45

Lowndes County, Alabama48.36

City of St. Louis, Missouri45.36

Macon County, Alabama44.34

City of Petersburg, Virginia42.45

Leflore County, Mississippi38.61

City of Baltimore, Maryland38.56

Dallas County, Alabama37.25

Dillon County, South Carolina 35.57

Washington County, Mississippi 34.19

Jefferson County, Arkansas34.08

Orleans Parish, Louisiana32.83

Holmes County, Mississippi32.31

Hinds County, Mississippi 31.68

Adams County, Mississippi28.26

Mississippi County, Arkansas27.80

Sunflower County, Mississippi 27.61

Coahoma County, Mississippi 27.19

Vance County, North Carolina 25.85

City of Danville, Virginia25.75

 

Media attention on large cities misrepresents the reality of gun violence in the United States

Despite negative media attention, many large cities are proportionately safer from gun violence than their rural counterparts:

Chicago is within Cook County, which ranks 79th for firearm homicide rates.

Philadelphia County ranks 38th for firearm homicide rates.

The five counties that encompass New York City rank between 360th and 521st for firearm homicide rates:

New York County (Manhattan) ranks 521st.

Kings County (Brooklyn) ranks 404th.

Bronx County (Bronx) ranks 360th.

Richmond County (Staten Island) ranks 488th.

Queens County (Queens) ranks 502nd.

Los Angeles County ranks 316th for firearm homicide rates.

Where is that cut from?  why did you leave out this nugget?

 

The results are somewhat different when looking at gun murder and gun suicide rates separately. The places with the highest gun murder rates in 2021 included the District of Columbia (22.3 per 100,000 people), Mississippi (21.2), Louisiana (18.4), Alabama (13.9) and New Mexico (11.7). Those with the lowest gun murder rates included Massachusetts (1.5), Idaho (1.5), Hawaii (1.6), Utah (2.1) and Iowa (2.2). Rate estimates are not available for Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont or Wyoming.

 

 

And its interesting how they never explained how age adjusted was figured in the formula.

 

 

 

[Andy1]

3 hours ago, Chris farley said:

Where is that cut from? 

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/gun-violence-in-rural-america/

 

[Tommy Callahan]

31 minutes ago, Andy1 said:

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/gun-violence-in-rural-america/

 

Thanks.   BTY. that's a dem funded think tank.

 

Authors’ note: According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, “Age-adjusting the rates ensures that differences in incidence or deaths from one year to another, or between one geographic area and another, are not due to differences in the age distribution of the populations being compared.”

 

 

 

 

[Big Blitz]

Breen and Jackson are safe

 

 

 

It’s unfortunate that ESPN subscribers fund a pedophile ring in Disney.  Dam shame. 
 

Go woke go broke.  Right @BillStime logic?

[BillStime]

31 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

It’s unfortunate that ESPN subscribers fund a pedophile ring in Disney.  Dam shame. 

[BillStime]

 

[ChiGoose]

7 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

Turns out that a platform of things that are unpopular to Americans ends up being unpopular with Americans. 
 

Who could have thought?

[BillStime]

7 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

Turns out that a platform of things that are unpopular to Americans ends up being unpopular with Americans. 
 

Who could have thought?

 

I can't believe Ohioan's didn't want to vote for this:

 

 

[ChiGoose]

3 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

I can't believe Ohioan's didn't want to vote for this:

 

 

For some people, democracy is only good so long as it yields the results they want. 
 

In the face of a future in which their ideas are rejected, the GOP has opted not to adjust its policies to be more popular, but to instead reject democracy itself. 

[BillStime]

1 minute ago, ChiGoose said:

For some people, democracy is only good so long as it yields the results they want. 
 

In the face of a future in which their ideas are rejected, the GOP has opted not to adjust its policies to be more popular, but to instead reject democracy itself. 

They want minority rule. 
 

Period.

[Andy1]

Yea, a win for democracy… Maybe Rs will start getting the message that voters do not want what they are selling. 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

3 minutes ago, Andy1 said:

Yea, a win for democracy… Maybe Rs will start getting the message that voters do not want what they are selling. 

 

Same damn 30% hard core MAGA nuts....scary that it looks like some counties voted yes.   I would suggest people and businesses avoid those areas.

[BillStime]

1 minute ago, Andy1 said:

Yea, a win for democracy… Maybe Rs will start getting the message that voters do not want what they are selling. 

Even if the R’s pivot - do you think Americans will suddenly trust a party led by a twice impeached, 3 time indicted MAGA candidate obsessed retribution, culture wars, taking away peoples rights, and a national security risk?

 

Nope

[Joe Ferguson forever]

1 minute ago, BillStime said:

Even if the R’s pivot - do you think Americans will suddenly trust a party led by a twice impeached, 3 time indicted MAGA candidate obsessed retribution, culture wars, taking away peoples rights, and a national security risk?

 

Nope

There are plenty of posters here who would vote for trump over Biden.

[BillStime]

1 minute ago, redtail hawk said:

There are plenty of posters here who would vote for trump over Biden.

DEMs and more importantly Independents (actual ones - not faux ones like @Doc and @Over 29 years of fanhood - will never even vote Trump.

[ChiGoose]

7 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Even if the R’s pivot - do you think Americans will suddenly trust a party led by a twice impeached, 3 time indicted MAGA candidate obsessed retribution, culture wars, taking away peoples rights, and a national security risk?

 

Nope

Sure. 40-45% of them trust the GOP right now. 
 

More likely that they *stop* supporting the GOP if it turns away from Trumpism. 

[John from Riverside]

3 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

There are plenty of posters here who would vote for trump over Biden.

Over anyone actually
It doesn’t matter who you put on the dem ticket they would find something wrong with them

 

Meanwhile, Trump and all of his sainthood………..

[Big Blitz]

5 hours ago, BillStime said:

Even if the R’s pivot - do you think Americans will suddenly trust a party led by a twice impeached, 3 time indicted MAGA candidate obsessed retribution, culture wars, taking away peoples rights, and a national security risk?

 

Nope

 

Trump is an Independent 

 

Always has been.  

 

When you look at him this way many things start to make sense.  Half our voters hate the GOP - thus Trump’s success.  
 

This is the second time he’s going to use the GOP to secure a bid for the presidency 

 

If this isn’t clear by now to all I don’t know what to tell you.  
 

I knew this in 2016 - my hope was he’d reshape the GOP and cement a realignment to working class and a giant middle finger to corporate America.  The GOP won’t do it.  Trump hasn’t gotten them there - but there has been a shift.  It’s at a crawl.  But it’s there.  

 

 

I don’t know now what his motives are.  But he’s suckering in votes for a primary to a party over half its supporters do not identify with.  They identify with Trump because he represents a break from the GOP - I don’t think they even understand it.  
 

I also said in the 2016 primary (I did not vote for Trump) that if you vote for Trump and he wins, this is a revolution.  
 

And revolutions are messy.  No greater proof then the coup launched to get him out and why the Democrat party and its enablers have made it their mission that no one like Trump (cements realignment and he cannot be controlled) can never win again.  
 

 

In short, the United States is dead.  America exists.  In pockets.  But we are ruled now.  Something nefarious happened on March 11, 2020.  

[Joe Ferguson forever]

3 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

Trump is an Independent 

 

Always has been.  

 

When you look at him this way many things start to make sense.  Half our voters hate the GOP - thus Trump’s success.  
 

This is the second time he’s going to use the GOP to secure a bid for the presidency 

 

If this isn’t clear by now to all I don’t know what to tell you.  
 

I knew this in 2016 - my hope was he’d reshape the GOP and cement a realignment to working class and a giant middle finger to corporate America.  The GOP won’t do it.  Trump hasn’t gotten them there - but there has been a shift.  It’s at a crawl.  But it’s there.  

 

 

I don’t know now what his motives are.  But he’s suckering in votes for a primary to a party over half its supporters do not identify with.  They identify with Trump because he represents a break from the GOP - I don’t think they even understand it.  
 

I also said in the 2016 primary (I did not vote for Trump) that if you vote for Trump and he wins, this is a revolution.  
 

And revolutions are messy.  No greater proof then the coup launched to get him out and why the Democrat party and its enablers have made it their mission that no one like Trump (cements realignment and he cannot be controlled) can never win again.  
 

 

In short, the United States is dead.  America exists.  In pockets.  But we are ruled now.  Something nefarious happened on March 11, 2020.  

that's a nice nightmare.  but completely delusional.  did you take some hallucinogens?

[Big Blitz]

42 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

that's a nice nightmare.  but completely delusional.  did you take some hallucinogens?

 

No.  no nightmare.  It’s a theory I can support with logic.  You can’t understand because your Democrat party you blindly support - you supported it when it opposed gay marriage oh just 15 years ago and you support it now when it can’t define woman. 
 

Because you’re an Anti American cult.  
 

 

And every time you people ask those questions you should probably stop and say … yea they “the conspiracy theories” usually have turned out to be right.  
 

Wet market.  Lol.  

Edited August 9, 2023 by Big Blitz

[SectionC3]

45 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

that's a nice nightmare.  but completely delusional.  did you take some hallucinogens?

Sadly, if he's a Trumper, probably opioids.  

 

(I have to say I don't disagree with him about the part about Trump not being a Republican.  Trump isn't an independent, either--he's simply a Trumper, and all about himself.  Sadly, the Republicans became Trumpers, and now the two things are indistinguishable.)

[Joe Ferguson forever]

53 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

Sadly, if he's a Trumper, probably opioids.  

 

(I have to say I don't disagree with him about the part about Trump not being a Republican.  Trump isn't an independent, either--he's simply a Trumper, and all about himself.  Sadly, the Republicans became Trumpers, and now the two things are indistinguishable.)

yeah, fentanyl most likely.

"cement a realignment to working class and a giant middle finger to corporate America".  This is the part that I find delusional.  trump's big tax break helped high earners and what they call "the investment class" immensely and gave the working class peanuts.  He deregulated industry about as much as he could heaping dollars on corporate America...

and this is the MAGA's conclusion.  delusional.