BLOODBATH 2.0

[HamSandwhich]

19 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

Ok, so let's be civil.  I agree with Bill.  I'll dumb it down to the fringe on the left is unbelievably annoying but ignorable.   They have little influence, I wish they had none but...democracy.   politicians cave to nonsense for votes.

 

The fringe has become the right.  Republicans who don't cave to election fraud nonsense are called rinos and often lose elections because of that.   I rarely hear normal discourse from conservatives.   It's a spatter of inane conspiracy theories.   

 

Explain to me how you think that's incorrect if you would.   I totally agree that both parties need to elect better people.   That may be the only way out.  I'm glad that a lot of the most divisive are old as shiite.  

I don’t know where to begin if you do t see the outsized influence of the leftist agenda by the loud and crazy minority. We just are not speaking the same language. 

Edited April 5, 2023 by HamSandwhich

[L Ron Burgundy]

1 minute ago, HamSandwhich said:

I don’t know where to begin if you do t see the outsized influence of the leftist agenda by the loud and crazy minority. We just are not speaking the same language. 

Ok let's say that's accurate.   Is it more so than the far rights influence?

 

I dont see how that's even arguable.  Rarely is policy even discussed by the right.  Most of what I see is Hunter Biden plus what is a male.  So consumed by admittedly stupid shiite that nothing meaningful is even discussed.

 

I mentioned candidates losing elections if they don't claim Biden/dems stole the election.   That's insane.  They have to ride a conspiracy with ZERO proof to even be considered in many places?  Come on.  

[HamSandwhich]

31 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

Ok let's say that's accurate.   Is it more so than the far rights influence?

 

I dont see how that's even arguable.  Rarely is policy even discussed by the right.  Most of what I see is Hunter Biden plus what is a male.  So consumed by admittedly stupid shiite that nothing meaningful is even discussed.

 

I mentioned candidates losing elections if they don't claim Biden/dems stole the election.   That's insane.  They have to ride a conspiracy with ZERO proof to even be considered in many places?  Come on.  

You’re off the rails man. There are plenty of things they are running on and are actively being pushed against by the leftist agenda, energy at home, the fight against censorship (it’s a real thing though you want to make it seem like a boogey man), making sure that parents have rights in the classroom and appropriate things are being taught schools for appropriate ages, having a police presence and honoring police rather than demonizing all of them because of a few bad apples, I can go on and on. What the heck are you talking about? I hear this all the time from leftist idiots, as though republicans have nothing they stand for. You’re just lazy. Those are just a few off the top of my head. Religious freedom, another, very important, probably just doesn’t jive with what you like so you say it’s nothing. 
 

What I like most of all is a gridlocked government that gets smaller, beautiful! 

Edited April 5, 2023 by HamSandwhich

[Joe Ferguson forever]

35 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said:

Religious freedom, another, very important, probably just doesn’t jive with what you like so you say it’s nothing. 
 

You mean freedom for non Christians? Cuz Christians have all the freedom they can handle.  pls give an example of Christians freedom being taken.  Now MTG believes the entire gov't should be Christian.  When Lesley Stahl asked her how this fit with the constitution she said "our founding father's were all Christian" or something to that effect.  "Christian nationalists"  carry great sway with the R's these days. MTG was pivotal in putting Kevin McCarthy in the position he is woefully inadequate for. Give an example of a fringe leftist group with as much influence.

Edited April 5, 2023 by redtail hawk

[Big Blitz]

How do we know a Deep State agency didn’t influence Wisconsin or Chicago?

 

#TwitterFiles

[HamSandwhich]

37 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

You mean freedom for non Christians? Cuz Christians have all the freedom they can handle.  pls give an example of Christians freedom being taken.  Now MTG believes the entire gov't should be Christian.  When Lesley Stahl asked her how this fit with the constitution she said "our founding father's were all Christian" or something to that effect.  "Christian nationalists"  carry great sway with the R's these days. MTG was pivotal in putting Kevin McCarthy in the position he is woefully inadequate for. Give an example of a fringe leftist group with as much influence.

Lol so many issues with what you’re saying. The law recently passed where they felt the need to add in interracial marriage made it so anyone trying to practice their religion outside of religious institutions, say in their own place of business, can be sued for discrimination. That is not religious freedom, religious people don’t only practice their religion in their house of worship. Religion is under fire and needs to be protected in an ever more secular country, but you knew that. 
 
Your bias is showing with the Mike McCarthy comment, he’s been doing just fine. Sorry your butts so chapped about him. 

Edited April 5, 2023 by HamSandwhich

[Joe Ferguson forever]

5 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said:

Lol so many issues with what you’re saying. The law recently passed where they felt the need to add in interracial marriage made it so anyone trying to practice their religion outside of religious institutions, say in their own place of business, can be sued for discrimination. That is not religious freedom, religious people don’t only practice their religion in their house of worship. Religion is under fire and needs to be protected in an ever more secular country, but you knew that. 

Huh?  Please link an article on this law.  Federal?  State? or fictitious?

[L Ron Burgundy]

28 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said:

You’re off the rails man. There are plenty of things they are running on and are actively being pushed against by the leftist agenda, energy at home, the fight against censorship (it’s a real thing though you want to make it seem like a boogey man), making sure that parents have rights in the classroom and appropriate things are being taught schools for appropriate ages, having a police presence and honoring police rather than demonizing all of them because of a few bad apples, I can go on and on. What the heck are you talking about? I hear this all the time from leftist idiots, as though republicans have nothing they stand for. You’re just lazy. Those are just a few off the top of my head. Religious freedom, another, very important, probably just doesn’t jive with what you like so you say it’s nothing. 
 

What I like most of all is a gridlocked government that gets smaller, beautiful! 

Man, if you don't think you answer is weak as hell...

 

And even were those important issues, as opposed to like infrastructure and Healthcare, how much time will your elected buddies spend on them vs defending Trump and going after Hunter Biden?

 

Honoring police is their platform?  Religious freedom is a problem that needs solving?   

 

[HamSandwhich]

1 minute ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

Man, if you don't think you answer is weak as hell...

 

And even were those important issues, as opposed to like infrastructure and Healthcare, how much time will your elected buddies spend on them vs defending Trump and going after Hunter Biden?

 

Honoring police is their platform?  Religious freedom is a problem that needs solving?   

 

Yes and yes they are a platform for them, you’ve been listening to too much CNN man. Sorry for your brain rot. The only reason you see these as weak is because YOU don’t see them as important with your liberal BS mindset. You can’t wrap your mind around the fact that others have ideas contrary to yours and they are sincerely held. We are just those to be hated, compared to hitler, or called racist, masogynist etc. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

7 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said:

Yes and yes they are a platform for them, you’ve been listening to too much CNN man. Sorry for your brain rot. The only reason you see these as weak is because YOU don’t see them as important with your liberal BS mindset. You can’t wrap your mind around the fact that others have ideas contrary to yours and they are sincerely held. We are just those to be hated, compared to hitler, or called racist, masogynist etc. 

nope.  You just have no idea what you're talking about and neither does anyone reading your posts.

[HamSandwhich]

4 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

nope.  You just have no idea what you're talking about and neither does anyone reading your posts.

Sure, good nonsense response when you have no good retort. 

[Andy1]

Party platforms are developed ahead of presidential elections. In 2020, the Republican party chose not to develop an official platform. Their simple platform statement was basically: whatever Trump wants for America First. 
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/resolution-regarding-the-republican-party-platform

 

 

[HamSandwhich]

2 minutes ago, Andy1 said:

Party platforms are developed ahead of presidential elections. In 2020, the Republican party chose not to develop an official platform. Their simple platform statement was basically: whatever Trump wants for America First. 
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/resolution-regarding-the-republican-party-platform

 

 

Is that the only platform they have? https://budget.house.gov/press-release/smith-republicans-commitment-to-america-will-build-an-economy-thats-strong/

[Andy1]

6 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said:

Is that the only platform they have? https://budget.house.gov/press-release/smith-republicans-commitment-to-america-will-build-an-economy-thats-strong/

I would call that a budget agenda rather than an official party platform. Platforms are usually big wordy documents describing a longer term vision for the future.
 

When they release their budget we will see what their priorities are. Hopefully the House and the Pres can reach compromise without crashing the economy. 

[HamSandwhich]

3 minutes ago, Andy1 said:

I would call that a budget agenda rather than an official party platform. Platforms are usually big wordy documents describing a longer term vision for the future.
 

When they release their budget we will see what their priorities are. Hopefully the House and the Pres can reach compromise without crashing the economy. 

If Biden and his leftist lunatic modern monetary theory idiots get their way, the economy will crash either way, it's crashing already.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

12 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said:

If Biden and his leftist lunatic modern monetary theory idiots get their way, the economy will crash either way, it's crashing already.

says the guy who wants us all to just get along...

[aristocrat]

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/stabbing-death-tech-executive-unleashes-170845014.html

 

Bob Lee, the 43-year-old founder of Cash App and a former executive at Square (now Block), was stabbed to death early Tuesday morning in downtown San Francisco.

Officers responded at 2:35 a.m. to a call reporting the stabbing and found Lee, who was visiting the city after having recently moved to Miami, according to NBC Bay Area. He was declared dead shortly after he was taken to the hospital, per a statement from San Francisco police.

No arrests have been made, and police haven’t released any details about a potential suspect.

After Lee’s death was reported, an outpouring of grief and remembrances for the tech executive, who also was the chief product officer at crypto startup MobileCoin, flooded social media. And along with the grief came a flood of anger over the state of San Francisco, which tech leaders have previously called the “worst run city in the United States.”

 

 

[HamSandwhich]

12 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

says the guy who wants us all to just get along...

Biden is not a moderate, he may have used to be, but he is captured by his left flank today. He's compromised. 

Edited April 6, 2023 by HamSandwhich

[HamSandwhich]

15 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

says the guy who wants us all to just get along...

Laugh all you want Redtail, but when Bernie Sanders thinks he has gotten most of what he wants from you, you're a socialist leftist https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/3865355-sanders-biden-a-more-progressive-president-than-he-was-as-senator/.

 

When you start adding in ESG into pension/401k plan, you're not working for what's best for Americans interest, you're working for what's best for the interest of your far left agenda. It's all there, clear as day. Carbon emissions, he wants to do away with them, his adversarial approach to all fossil fuels, all from the far left. He's captured. The only thing he's done recently that does not wreak of his far left flank is the push back on the DC policing act, he can see he's losing the policing battle and dems are starting to turn their messaging on that, finally. 

 

When I say more centrists need to step up, I mean in the vein of Manchin and Sinema, more of that. We didn't need all that spending last year, it was just the COVID excuse to install their modern monetary theory to blow out the budget, and as we predicted, inflation went WAY up and it's here to stay. We're in a tailspin precisely because of this administration, the banks fail if we go too high on the interest rates and the inflation goes ever higher if we dont raise them, so what do you do? Pefect example as to why a central government (Central Bank) making all the monetary decisions (or any central top down government entity) is never the answer, it always blows up at some point because one person cannot predict the entire economy. Here we are, a bunch of shills like yourself covering for our inept administration and your lefty cronies. 

[Buffarukus]

8 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

Ok let's say that's accurate.   Is it more so than the far rights influence?

 

I dont see how that's even arguable.  Rarely is policy even discussed by the right.  Most of what I see is Hunter Biden plus what is a male.  So consumed by admittedly stupid shiite that nothing meaningful is even discussed.

 

what you see? what are you looking at around you? there are meaningful things the right are fighting against every day.

 

we are in a proxy war with a nuclear power. there has been no peace talks and only further escalation by the US. all while china becomes the beacon of peace suddenly in the world? while talks of dumping the dollar take place among major economies? when bread cost 100 dollars cause its worthless im guessing then and only then will the virtue signaling fade real quick to secure what you need to survive. it will be f everyone else on a major scale. including under represented groups. that may or may not be hyperbole. its never been so close to real. one wrong target hit in nato and you might be in a trench next month.

 

people are being murdered by violent offenders that were released after being caught by liberals new soft on crime initiatives. robberies. looting. you name it up. this is unexplainable to anyone who lives a honest hard working life why dems refuse to address this. sure it may be getting slightly filtered out in elections but id expect enough victims have been piled up to do a complete 180 and demand serious change..nope. still charging people for defending themselves. still letting criminals in a turn style. still having MAJOR ISSUES hiring police and military which effects everyone when it comes to response when needed. you dont care until you need them.

 

excusing the weoponization of gov. twitter. massive data collection. multiple journalists doors kicked in. irs going after whistle blowers. now bs charges against former presidents? even lib outlets saying charges are a joke. not a peep from the left. all excused. its only getting more brash and escalating. completly numb that alot of this is unprecedented. i remember when trumps "fake news" comment was a "attack on journalism!!! fascism!!". but actual dept deployed applying pressure on citizens..yawn. 

 

inflation is crushing families started by the incorrect covid response. a response that was punished if fought against. a response by rep that was villianized and censored for years. but..who couldve known is what they say. as more is looked into. EVERYONE knew very well and mobilized fools based on fear against their neighbors. oldest trick still works. 

 

just a start. reversing any of this would be a decent policy. all things that greatly effect your and my life. nothing culture war or fringe going on. if you think this country is better then it was before this administration started. your either rich or blind. seriously give me somthing this administration has done to make your life better beside trillion dollar bills that they say will do great things for me in 20 years when everyone has forgotten how our debt tripled in a few years lol. id love a bit on encouragement as i check to make sure my bank still hasn't collapsed.

 

is this all a figment of my imagination? my cult has warped my mind and none of it is real? thats the way leftists keep insinuating reality is. 

 

 

8 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

 

I mentioned candidates losing elections if they don't claim Biden/dems stole the election.   That's insane.  They have to ride a conspiracy with ZERO proof to even be considered in many places?  Come on.  

 

you don't see the true difference between rep and dems followers. one has a major distrust of gov and one fully supports it. the reason there was/is so much election mistrust was covid had a bunch of states change voting laws and suddenly people had to wait weeks to get a clear picture or listen to how ballots could be removed from signatures and not double checked on and on with strange NEW policies..for our saftey of coarse. that dems never reversed. that's not normal and just because a law was changed last minute making it legal does not mean there couldn't be manipulation of it or if deeply looked at as a loophole for fraud. im not saying that is true. biden getting the most votes in history is a pretty good signal somthing was off here. biden, who hid in his basment and did not campaign much? if you say so. i honestly dont know enough about the sheer amount of changes to be convinced but it certainly smells funky. but liberals certainly had no issue jumping on the jim crow 2.0 hysteria when Republicans made changes. most moderate. BUT I.D. NOOOO!!!! they are stealing elections!!! so any argument on absurdity of reaction is pretty tone deaf. 

 

 

Edited April 6, 2023 by Buffarukus

[HamSandwhich]

4 hours ago, Buffarukus said:

 

what you see? what are you looking at around you? there are meaningful things the right are fighting against every day.

 

we are in a proxy war with a nuclear power. there has been no peace talks and only further escalation by the US. all while china becomes the beacon of peace suddenly in the world? while talks of dumping the dollar take place among major economies? when bread cost 100 dollars cause its worthless im guessing then and only then will the virtue signaling fade real quick to secure what you need to survive. it will be f everyone else on a major scale. including under represented groups. that may or may not be hyperbole. its never been so close to real. one wrong target hit in nato and you might be in a trench next month.

 

people are being murdered by violent offenders that were released after being caught by liberals new soft on crime initiatives. robberies. looting. you name it up. this is unexplainable to anyone who lives a honest hard working life why dems refuse to address this. sure it may be getting slightly filtered out in elections but id expect enough victims have been piled up to do a complete 180 and demand serious change..nope. still charging people for defending themselves. still letting criminals in a turn style. still having MAJOR ISSUES hiring police and military which effects everyone when it comes to response when needed. you dont care until you need them.

 

excusing the weoponization of gov. twitter. massive data collection. multiple journalists doors kicked in. irs going after whistle blowers. now bs charges against former presidents? even lib outlets saying charges are a joke. not a peep from the left. all excused. its only getting more brash and escalating. completly numb that alot of this is unprecedented. i remember when trumps "fake news" comment was a "attack on journalism!!! fascism!!". but actual dept deployed applying pressure on citizens..yawn. 

 

inflation is crushing families started by the incorrect covid response. a response that was punished if fought against. a response by rep that was villianized and censored for years. but..who couldve known is what they say. as more is looked into. EVERYONE knew very well and mobilized fools based on fear against their neighbors. oldest trick still works. 

 

just a start. reversing any of this would be a decent policy. all things that greatly effect your and my life. nothing culture war or fringe going on. if you think this country is better then it was before this administration started. your either rich or blind. seriously give me somthing this administration has done to make your life better beside trillion dollar bills that they say will do great things for me in 20 years when everyone has forgotten how our debt tripled in a few years lol. id love a bit on encouragement as i check to make sure my bank still hasn't collapsed.

 

is this all a figment of my imagination? my cult has warped my mind and none of it is real? thats the way leftists keep insinuating reality is. 

 

 

 

you don't see the true difference between rep and dems followers. one has a major distrust of gov and one fully supports it. the reason there was/is so much election mistrust was covid had a bunch of states change voting laws and suddenly people had to wait weeks to get a clear picture or listen to how ballots could be removed from signatures and not double checked on and on with strange NEW policies..for our saftey of coarse. that dems never reversed. that's not normal and just because a law was changed last minute making it legal does not mean there couldn't be manipulation of it or if deeply looked at as a loophole for fraud. im not saying that is true. biden getting the most votes in history is a pretty good signal somthing was off here. biden, who hid in his basment and did not campaign much? if you say so. i honestly dont know enough about the sheer amount of changes to be convinced but it certainly smells funky. but liberals certainly had no issue jumping on the jim crow 2.0 hysteria when Republicans made changes. most moderate. BUT I.D. NOOOO!!!! they are stealing elections!!! so any argument on absurdity of reaction is pretty tone deaf. 

 

 

They’ll just see these things as weak because it doesn’t fit into their agenda. When leftists say Republicans don’t stand for anything they are actually saying Republicans are just not agreeing with what they are trying to get done. Just dumb. 

[L Ron Burgundy]

32 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said:

They’ll just see these things as weak because it doesn’t fit into their agenda. When leftists say Republicans don’t stand for anything they are actually saying Republicans are just not agreeing with what they are trying to get done. Just dumb. 

Listen, I tried.   Your answer, and buffarukus' typical rambling nonsense, shows to me not that your not knowledgeable or serious. 

Honoring police is part of your platform?  Having a police presence?  Where?  How you wanna do that?

 

 Inflation is a world wide problem.   Covid f'd other countries worse than us and we trade with them.  It would be a problem if an R got elected too.

 

I expected a better answer I guess.  I was hoping for more Ben Shapiro but what you gave was Hannity if that makes sense.  I liked your initial thought.  

[HamSandwhich]

8 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

Listen, I tried.   Your answer, and buffarukus' typical rambling nonsense, shows to me not that your not knowledgeable or serious. 

Honoring police is part of your platform?  Having a police presence?  Where?  How you wanna do that?

 

 Inflation is a world wide problem.   Covid f'd other countries worse than us and we trade with them.  It would be a problem if an R got elected too.

 

I expected a better answer I guess.  I was hoping for more Ben Shapiro but what you gave was Hannity if that makes sense.  I liked your initial thought.  

Wow, the liberal talking points you just spewed, right from Biden’s tongue. I can give you some of the inflation would happen sure, the gas to the fire of the stupid over the top spending that was not needed for pork projects and socialist agenda has revved it up and blew our economy out of the water. Not to mention dumb energy policy, depleting our strategic reserve for reasons it was not meant for for short term gain before midterms, groveling to opec instead of doing this at home to appease your leftist idiots who think the world is going to end tomorrow everyday they wake up. Fact, renewables are not reliable enough yet, we need fossil fuels, why make us pay more here by getting second hand? Biden and s nonsensical and we are all paying for it. It’s a direct result of ideological capture. You can act rational if not for ideology, Biden has chosen to genuflect to the DEI, Socialist, ESG, All the other alphabet things you want agenda, and the country is going down because of it. 

 

Also, it’s not as apparent that other countries have it worse than us as you’re saying.

 

increase police presence, not defund like you lunatics want, there, end of story. That honors them by showing we value them as a profession. Stand up for the police when they are being unfairly ostracized, the left loves to call all cops bastards. Before you say it, there’s a difference between on the street police force and the DOJ and weaponization/politicization of that branch and wanting to clamp down on political prosecutions. In the FBI and IRS too. Their mandate is actually to be apolitical so the investigation into clearly political bias in administration of law (or no -administration) is appropriate. When talking about doing away with these beaureacratic institutions, it’s to rid of political hacks that don’t apply the law evenly. Not to get rid of them completely.
 

These ARE standing for things, standing against terrible policy in and of itself is huge in todays political climate. Get off your high horse, when the country come crumbling down because of Biden’s and the leftist agenda, will you be looking for the next leftist to elect or will you finally admit you’re wrong, by then it will be too late and your pride will have done you in. 
 

Your bias drivel is showing. 

[Tiberius]

44 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said:

Wow, the liberal talking points you just spewed, right from Biden’s tongue. I can give you some of the inflation would happen sure, the gas to the fire of the stupid over the top spending that was not needed for pork projects and socialist agenda has revved it up and blew our economy out of the water. Not to mention dumb energy policy, depleting our strategic reserve for reasons it was not meant for for short term gain before midterms, groveling to opec instead of doing this at home to appease your leftist idiots who think the world is going to end tomorrow everyday they wake up. Fact, renewables are not reliable enough yet, we need fossil fuels, why make us pay more here by getting second hand? Biden and s nonsensical and we are all paying for it. It’s a direct result of ideological capture. You can act rational if not for ideology, Biden has chosen to genuflect to the DEI, Socialist, ESG, All the other alphabet things you want agenda, and the country is going down because of it. 

 

You are talking about the same Biden that just approved drilling in Alaska? https://www.npr.org/2023/03/13/1163075377/willow-drilling-project-alaska-approved-biden

 

How is that appeasing the environmental groups? 

 

 

 

48 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said:

 

 

increase police presence, not defund like you lunatics want, there, end of story.  

Turn off the Fox News dingbat, no one, except Trump, is calling to defund law enforcement 

[HamSandwhich]

7 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

You are talking about the same Biden that just approved drilling in Alaska? https://www.npr.org/2023/03/13/1163075377/willow-drilling-project-alaska-approved-biden

 

How is that appeasing the environmental groups? 

 

 

 

Lol he’s making a small about face? This is the guy who has for years stalled and made sure that the fossil fuel  industry could not do the things it needed to sustain, now he does something because the pressure is on and he are supposed to say oh ok, all is good? 🤣🤣🤣😂😂🤣 You’re not smart. Let me see more dedication, a sea change in his tact, his disengaging in villainizing the fossil fuel industry and we can talk. Still all of his red tape everywhere else, hamstringing the industry, but you knew that didn’t you? 

Edited April 6, 2023 by HamSandwhich

[Tiberius]

Just now, HamSandwhich said:

Lol he’s making a small about face? This is the guy who has for years stalled and made sure that the fossil fuel  industry could not do the things it needed to sustain, now he does something because the pressure is on and he are supposed to say oh ok, all is good? 🤣🤣🤣😂😂🤣 You’re not smart. Let

me see more dedication, a sea change in his tact, his disengaging in villainizing the fossil fuel industry and we can talk. Still all of his red tape everywhere else, hamstringing the industry, but you knew that didn’t you? 

You don't know what you are talking about. You are just spewing things some talk radio clown yammered at you. 

 

Biden approved more drilling permits than Trump did in his first year. 

 

And we are going to move farther away from fossil fuels as we go, climate change must be addressed 

[HamSandwhich]

1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

You don't know what you are talking about. You are just spewing things some talk radio clown yammered at you. 

 

Biden approved more drilling permits than Trump did in his first year. 

 

And we are going to move farther away from fossil fuels as we go, climate change must be addressed 

Lol I know exactly what I’m talking about, he allowed more permits but did not allow the leasing needed to drill. Many were approved by the previous admin and allowed to continue under Biden but they count them as “approved” under him, disingenuously. It’s well documented. It’s you who is parroting leftist talking points and know nothing of what you say. Stop talking, you sound dumb.

[All_Pro_Bills]

2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

You don't know what you are talking about. You are just spewing things some talk radio clown yammered at you. 

 

Biden approved more drilling permits than Trump did in his first year. 

 

And we are going to move farther away from fossil fuels as we go, climate change must be addressed 

Biden also drained the SPR and Saudi Arabia has rebuffed US interests while transitioned to an ally of China on his watch.  Along with this, OPEC+ is consistently ignoring US interests.  To this point its indisputable that this administration's energy policy is a failure.  And things are going to get much worse.   

[Tiberius]

4 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said:

Lol I know exactly what I’m talking about, he allowed more permits but did not allow the leasing needed to drill. Many were approved by the previous admin and allowed to continue under Biden but they count them as “approved” under him, disingenuously. It’s well documented. It’s you who is parroting leftist talking points and know nothing of what you say. Stop talking, you sound dumb.

You are clueless and rambling, but I won't try and silence you. I think clowns like you just help Democrats get elected. We can just point at you and say look at that idiot! 

 

Thank you for what you do 

[HamSandwhich]

2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

You are clueless and rambling, but I won't try and silence you. I think clowns like you just help Democrats get elected. We can just point at you and say look at that idiot! 

 

Thank you for what you do 

It's funny, I think the same things about what you spew, you can go see other posts where I say the same things about you and your ilk.  Here you are... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-07/biden-administration-misusing-facts-on-oil-permits-api-says#xj4y7vzkg

[Tiberius]

Just now, HamSandwhich said:

It's funny, I think the same things about what you spew, you can go see other posts where I say the same things about you and your ilk.  Here you are... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-07/biden-administration-misusing-facts-on-oil-permits-api-says#xj4y7vzkg

Oh look, you found something negative about a politician on the interweb, want a cookie little guy? 

 

10 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Biden also drained the SPR and Saudi Arabia has rebuffed US interests while transitioned to an ally of China on his watch.  Along with this, OPEC+ is consistently ignoring US interests.  To this point its indisputable that this administration's energy policy is a failure.  And things are going to get much worse.   

Didn't the Saudis do 9-11? 

[HamSandwhich]

6 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Oh look, you found something negative about a politician on the interweb, want a cookie little guy? 

 

Didn't the Saudis do 9-11? 

Lol, Tiberius, you're the most insane idiots on the board, next to Billstime. You're not worth the time. You know that Biden lies, you know the permits were actually Trumps that he approved but went into Biden's admin and he simply didn't stop them from being in approved status and then counted them as approved permits under his administration, you know about the red tape. You're just playing dumb and then calling the other person insane, attacking the character, just another example of the leftist playbook. Your game is tired, everyone see's through it, yours and all of your leftist lunatics. Happy to see a state congressman on the left switched sides to the right because she saw it in my great state of NC yesterday to create a super majority in the NC chamber. Good things coming here in NC. I'll bet more people will be switching sides in the near future and we can have fun watching you kicking and screaming. 

Edited April 6, 2023 by HamSandwhich

[Big Blitz]

Liberals here sounding more and more guilt ridden over Covid and inflation - they’ll never admit it.  
 

I’ve never seen them collectively (it’s only 3 posters to like the rest quit life) this stupid.   And that’s saying something.   

[Buffarukus]

7 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

Listen, I tried.   Your answer, and buffarukus' typical rambling nonsense, shows to me not that your not knowledgeable or serious. 

Honoring police is part of your platform?  Having a police presence?  Where?  How you wanna do that?

 

 Inflation is a world wide problem.   Covid f'd other countries worse than us and we trade with them.  It would be a problem if an R got elected too.

 

I expected a better answer I guess.  I was hoping for more Ben Shapiro but what you gave was Hannity if that makes sense.  I liked your initial thought.  

 

so pluck out covid, and from that pluck out inflation singularly. dont address what i said and just say its ok cause the world is dealing with it. imagine the country that stayed open. kids who did not lose years of school. buisnesses stayed open not closed forever. trust in our health institutions and gov and media that actually told the truth and was not in the pocket of big pharma. no need for billions/trillions in checks to people forced to stay home. neighbors that were not calling each other murders for living normal lives. better or worse? 

 

anyways all the rest is just  nonsensical ramblings of dem policy failures that is making this country far worse for its citizens. but should be kept in a sentance or two for easy digestion.

 

it would be nice if a liberal said hey i recognize these failures and will fight against them because they are hurting people. its not that hard. nope all figments of the rights imagination..january 6th!...which i can easily acknowledge was wrong. racism? detest it. corporate shills trickle down bs? illegal abortion across the board. nope on record here. not even a trump fan but see his appeal. opps this is getting long aka a ramble.

 

 

thanks for trying ron. 

 

Edited April 6, 2023 by Buffarukus

[Buffarukus]

6 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

Liberals here sounding more and more guilt ridden over Covid and inflation - they’ll never admit it.  
 

I’ve never seen them collectively (it’s only 3 posters to like the rest quit life) this stupid.   And that’s saying something.   

 

i mean how big is ego. literally were a moment away from rounding people up and putting them in camps. calling people terrorists for ACTUAL peaceful protests for honest real scientific data. cheering on the police (they just persecuted) for closing down a buisness that were forced to close for no logical scientific reason. checkpoints in NY. trackable I.Ds. 

 

and for MOST the time records show the people in power knew the entire time. still "who knew" "mistakes were made" "everyone acted like idiots so its ok we applied idiotcy".

 

you think there be a bit of reflection. the best ive seen is accounts who pushed the hardest no longer active. prob changed names but its a sign they know..and hopefully learned. as for the rest it was just a act of god which for them is basically true. no alternatives were ever brought up.

Edited April 6, 2023 by Buffarukus

[Buffarukus]

8 hours ago, HamSandwhich said:

They’ll just see these things as weak because it doesn’t fit into their agenda. When leftists say Republicans don’t stand for anything they are actually saying Republicans are just not agreeing with what they are trying to get done. Just dumb. 

 

yeah he didnt see anything you had to say as concrete so i gave a list. as usual it was dismissed. not really dems fault. nothing could be done. whatabout. too long, rambly nonsense. 

 

its typical. its been a waste of time, everytime. but i keep trying for some odd reason.

[L Ron Burgundy]

6 hours ago, HamSandwhich said:

Wow, the liberal talking points you just spewed, right from Biden’s tongue. I can give you some of the inflation would happen sure, the gas to the fire of the stupid over the top spending that was not needed for pork projects and socialist agenda has revved it up and blew our economy out of the water. Not to mention dumb energy policy, depleting our strategic reserve for reasons it was not meant for for short term gain before midterms, groveling to opec instead of doing this at home to appease your leftist idiots who think the world is going to end tomorrow everyday they wake up. Fact, renewables are not reliable enough yet, we need fossil fuels, why make us pay more here by getting second hand? Biden and s nonsensical and we are all paying for it. It’s a direct result of ideological capture. You can act rational if not for ideology, Biden has chosen to genuflect to the DEI, Socialist, ESG, All the other alphabet things you want agenda, and the country is going down because of it. 

 

Also, it’s not as apparent that other countries have it worse than us as you’re saying.

 

increase police presence, not defund like you lunatics want, there, end of story. That honors them by showing we value them as a profession. Stand up for the police when they are being unfairly ostracized, the left loves to call all cops bastards. Before you say it, there’s a difference between on the street police force and the DOJ and weaponization/politicization of that branch and wanting to clamp down on political prosecutions. In the FBI and IRS too. Their mandate is actually to be apolitical so the investigation into clearly political bias in administration of law (or no -administration) is appropriate. When talking about doing away with these beaureacratic institutions, it’s to rid of political hacks that don’t apply the law evenly. Not to get rid of them completely.
 

These ARE standing for things, standing against terrible policy in and of itself is huge in todays political climate. Get off your high horse, when the country come crumbling down because of Biden’s and the leftist agenda, will you be looking for the next leftist to elect or will you finally admit you’re wrong, by then it will be too late and your pride will have done you in. 
 

Your bias drivel is showing. 

You seem fired up.  Calm down.   Have a beer or 3.

 

You say you want to bridge the gap but you got fired up without me even trying.  Bill might make you have a heart attack.  Get out and meet some normal liberals.  Those of us that know there's one sex.   That don't want to defend the police.   You'll learn a lot I promise. 

 

I know this is coming off as condescending.   It's not on purpose.   Might be my writing style or that I'm inherently a diick.  At last I know right?

 

 

[HamSandwhich]

28 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

You seem fired up.  Calm down.   Have a beer or 3.

 

You say you want to bridge the gap but you got fired up without me even trying.  Bill might make you have a heart attack.  Get out and meet some normal liberals.  Those of us that know there's one sex.   That don't want to defend the police.   You'll learn a lot I promise. 

 

I know this is coming off as condescending.   It's not on purpose.   Might be my writing style or that I'm inherently a diick.  At last I know right?

 

 

You don't want to bridge the gap, I can tell by your viewpoints. 

[HamSandwhich]

Anyone listening to Justin Jones at the Tennessee house grandstand like he's some sort of messiah. What a joke, hilarious. Just like those kicking and screaming democrats in NC when the Dem changed to Rep. So much fun to watch.  

[Buffarukus]

57 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

You seem fired up.  Calm down.   Have a beer or 3.

 

You say you want to bridge the gap but you got fired up without me even trying.  Bill might make you have a heart attack.  Get out and meet some normal liberals.  Those of us that know there's one sex.   That don't want to defend the police.   You'll learn a lot I promise. 

 

I know this is coming off as condescending.   It's not on purpose.   Might be my writing style or that I'm inherently a diick.  At last I know right?

 

 

 

well thats a start. unfortunately the "fringe" has reached the highest point of the party. ask the president how many genders there are. where are the liberals standing up for womens rights. i dont see them? where is the mass expulsion of DAs that are letting criminals walk and disenfrachising police to even make a useless arrest. silently talking amongst yourselves is not going to change much and gives power to the fringe to speak on your behalf.

 

im not seeing it. in the meantime some psychotic bills are being presented. men in wo.ens prisons. no mandatory time for anything less then murder? 

 

your party no longer represents you and if you publicly say what you just did you are now "far right"...welcome to regular human logic.

 

ill shut up and stay out of it. 

Edited April 6, 2023 by Buffarukus